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Basho Talk ** Haru Basho 2017 ** (SPOILERS)

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Now that I look at him, Takayasu is looking fatter too. Must be all the heya celebrations for Kise.

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Osunirashi sole leader at juro. Ura showing his chops. Koto should bang always. I would have thought that takekaze might have tried the henka yesterday. Terror looking very strong. Kisenosato....the velvet Yokozuna. 

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1 hour ago, PawnSums said:

I believe he said he would retire in three years.

His stated goal was to still be active in 2020, so he could perform a dohyo-iri at the opening ceremonies of the Tokyo Olympics. Whether he sticks with that even if yusho become rare for him is an open question.

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Just now, Kuroyama said:

His stated goal was to still be active in 2020, so he could perform a dohyo-iri at the opening ceremonies of the Tokyo Olympics. Whether he sticks with that even if yusho become rare for him is an open question.

couldn't he still do a dohyo-iri if he is intai?

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6 minutes ago, PawnSums said:

couldn't he still do a dohyo-iri if he is intai?

No. Not unless he's also 60 years old at the time.

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11 minutes ago, Kuroyama said:

His stated goal was to still be active in 2020, so he could perform a dohyo-iri at the opening ceremonies of the Tokyo Olympics. Whether he sticks with that even if yusho become rare for him is an open question.

And there were no japanese Yoks then. My money is on Kise. 

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3 hours ago, PawnSums said:

couldn't he still do a dohyo-iri if he is intai?

Yokozuna Takanohana was ill when the 1998 Nagano Olympics same around. The NSK sent Yokozuna Akebono to do the dohyo-iri in his stead. I don't know who his attendants were during the ceremony. Here's a photo, I couldn't get it to post (but will keep trying)

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8 minutes ago, Fukurou said:

Yokozuna Takanohana was ill when the 1998 Nagano Olympics same around. The NSK sent Yokozuna Akebono to do the dohyo-iri in his stead. I don't know who his attendants were during the ceremony. Here's a photo, I couldn't get it to post (but will keep trying)

Right, but Akebono was active at the time.

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On 20/03/2017 at 18:58, Rocks said:

He's got Endo today who has never beat him but Endo is looking like he's hell bent on getting his 1st joi-jin KK. 

 

Oops, he was 8-7 at M5w 3 years ago. Still this is the 1st time he's had 6 wins by day 9 ranked above M10.

M5w is in no way joi-jin. There is a very severe line for that zone, and with an 11-man san'yaku cordon it sits at M3e/M3w. The top 16 is a completely different ballpark than even the 17th spot, let alone M5w. 

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46 minutes ago, Benihana said:

And there were no japanese Yoks then. My money is on Kise. 

I'm not sure I'd bet that much money on Kise still being active in three and a half years either.

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1 minute ago, Asashosakari said:

I'm not sure I'd bet that much money on Kise still being active in three and a half years either.

I want to believe. :-)

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Interesting. Who will be the Yokozunae in July 2020? I guess only time will tell.

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Kotoshogiku was gunning for his kachikoshi today (Day 11), but a struggling Ikioi got into the ring and said, "Not on my watch."  Ikioi is a real "mystery" this tournament.  His only earlier win was on Day 4 against Hakuho (the top dog on the banzuke).  Before and after that, he was ice cold.  

That leaves Kotoshogiku with 7 wins and 4 losses.  With four days left in the tournament, he must win three of his four remaining bouts to get reinstated as an Ozeki.  That won't be easy.  He should be OK against Takarafuji tomorrow, but he has yet to fight Terunofuji, who is still in championship contention.  He also has yet to fight Yoshikaze, who is capable of an upset.  His/their record is 19:4, and Yoshikaze hasn't defeated Kotoshogiku since 2015.  But Yoshikaze can be a real demon.  Lucky for Kotoshogiku, he didn't/won't have to face Hakuho since he's kyujo.  I wonder who the 4th opponent will be.

10 wins for Kotoshogiku is still within the realm of possibility.  We'll all just have to sit back and watch what transpires in the ring...

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28 minutes ago, Amamaniac said:

Kotoshogiku was gunning for his kachikoshi today (Day 11), but a struggling Ikioi got into the ring and said, "Not on my watch."  Ikioi is a real "mystery" this tournament.  His only earlier win was on Day 4 against Hakuho (the top dog on the banzuke).  Before and after that, he was ice cold.  

That leaves Kotoshogiku with 7 wins and 4 losses.  With four days left in the tournament, he must win three of his four remaining bouts to get reinstated as an Ozeki.  That won't be easy.  He should be OK against Takarafuji tomorrow, but he has yet to fight Terunofuji, who is still in championship contention.  He also has yet to fight Yoshikaze, who is capable of an upset.  His/their record is 19:4, and Yoshikaze hasn't defeated Kotoshogiku since 2015.  But Yoshikaze can be a real demon.  Lucky for Kotoshogiku, he didn't/won't have to face Hakuho since he's kyujo.  I wonder who the 4th opponent will be.

10 wins for Kotoshogiku is still within the realm of possibility.  We'll all just have to sit back and watch what transpires in the ring...

Yeah, Yoshikaze can be downright ferocious at times. Kotoshogiku had best bring his A game.

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3 minutes ago, Dwale said:

Yeah, Yoshikaze can be downright ferocious at times. Kotoshogiku had best bring his A game.

Assuming, of course, that the NSK doesn't bring up Tochiozan instead.

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1 hour ago, Amamaniac said:

Kotoshogiku was gunning for his kachikoshi today (Day 11), but a struggling Ikioi got into the ring and said, "Not on my watch."  Ikioi is a real "mystery" this tournament.  His only earlier win was on Day 4 against Hakuho (the top dog on the banzuke).  Before and after that, he was ice cold.  

That leaves Kotoshogiku with 7 wins and 4 losses.  With four days left in the tournament, he must win three of his four remaining bouts to get reinstated as an Ozeki.  That won't be easy.  He should be OK against Takarafuji tomorrow, but he has yet to fight Terunofuji, who is still in championship contention.  He also has yet to fight Yoshikaze, who is capable of an upset.  His/their record is 19:4, and Yoshikaze hasn't defeated Kotoshogiku since 2015.  But Yoshikaze can be a real demon.  Lucky for Kotoshogiku, he didn't/won't have to face Hakuho since he's kyujo.  I wonder who the 4th opponent will be.

10 wins for Kotoshogiku is still within the realm of possibility.  We'll all just have to sit back and watch what transpires in the ring...

I believe it is Shodai. Day 11's matchup was one of the easier tasks Geek had to face, and makes it a real nailbiter now. Defeating Terror is not out of the question; 5-7 record in total and has won 3 of the last 4. But this Terror looks on top of his game. Beating Takarafuji tomorrow is a must, who is on a 6 match losing streak.

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3 hours ago, Kuroyama said:

Right, but Akebono was active at the time.

I know. It's just an example of replacing the guy they wanted with a different guy. No way an intai-ed guy could do it unless it was at his own retirement ceremony.

And found a better picture. If anyone can recognize his attendants, one seen in this photo, the other in the photo linked to above:
YAACT007.jpg?interpolation=lanczos-none&

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42 minutes ago, Sakura said:

Assuming, of course, that the NSK doesn't bring up Tochiozan instead.

Well, yeah. And more to the point, he needs to bring his A game no matter who he's against. He won't get another shot.

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23 minutes ago, Fukurou said:

I know. It's just an example of replacing the guy they wanted with a different guy. No way an intai-ed guy could do it unless it was at his own retirement ceremony.

And found a better picture. If anyone can recognize his attendants, one seen in this photo, the other in the photo linked to above:
YAACT007.jpg?interpolation=lanczos-none&

Tsuyuharai is Terao. Tachimochi is Asanosho, maybe?

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7 minutes ago, Kuroyama said:

Tsuyuharai is Terao. Tachimochi is Asanosho, maybe?

Looks like Kitakachidoki to me. 

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Originally they were going with the same attendants that were to assist Takanohana being Takatoriki and Akinoshima but Kitakachidoki and Terao were replacements.

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Is that Kyokutenho behind the stage on the right, just his head?

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3 minutes ago, 808morgan said:

Is that Kyokutenho behind the stage on the right, just his head?

yes, and kaio in front, don't know who the one on the front right is, maybe dejima.

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4 minutes ago, PawnSums said:

yes, and kaio in front, don't know who the one on the front right is, maybe dejima.

All top division men formed one level below around the official dohyo iri party.

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1 hour ago, PawnSums said:

don't know who the one on the front right is, maybe dejima

Musoyama

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