Philioyamfugi 378 Posted February 24, 2017 I didn't see and thread about this. After his injury, he is just about to get back to Juro. He has spent so much time on getting that body, it's worth the climb back up at 32 . Toyonoshima deserves his own thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,671 Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) I'm pretty sure there's a 'Toyonoshima injured' thread buried somewhere. I really like Toyonoshima, who categorically disproved the notion that short guys don't do well in makuuchi, but that achilles tendon rupture he suffered is a major setback and he'll be 34 in June, which is getting on a bit even for a healthy top-flight rikishi. Yes, he'll probably regain his sekitori status, but I'm not sure about him getting back to anything like his former glory, maybe not even back into makuuchi. As usual I err on the less-optimistic side with regard to Toyo's prospects, and as usual I'll be happy for him to prove me wrong, If not, nobody can take away the fact that he took the 1st kinboshi from Hakuho nor that he managed a 14-1D as a maegashira. He's had an excellent career. Edited February 24, 2017 by RabidJohn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 807 Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Philioyamfugi said: I didn't see and thread about this. After his injury, he is just about to get back to Juro. He has spent so much time on getting that body, it's worth the climb back up at 32 . Toyonoshima deserves his own thread. How about this one... Edited February 24, 2017 by ryafuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottyJoyJrBebe 97 Posted February 24, 2017 14-1 D. Quite Impressive. A true "Yusho Equivilant" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Onibushou 61 Posted February 24, 2017 One could argue it was even less of a "Yusho equivalent" considering he was ranked at M9 for that basho (coming off a forced absence, iirc), and fought a fairly easy schedule for a former Sekiwake that should not have been ranked that low in normal circumstances. Were it not for Hakuho (whom he did not fight normally) also putting up 14 and winning the playoff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 728 Posted February 27, 2017 Not surprised but still somehow disappointed he didn't make the cut this time. Here's hoping for the makushita yusho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philioyamfugi 378 Posted February 27, 2017 He's up to MS 2.... Next time if he has a solid outing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philioyamfugi 378 Posted March 12, 2017 Toyonoshima out for the first match....not good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,807 Posted March 12, 2017 Worse for him is that because of Kasei being out he likely to get a Juryo opponent too. Unless someone else goes kyujo which seems likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PawnSums 59 Posted March 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, Rocks said: Worse for him is that because of Kasei being out he likely to get a Juryo opponent too. Unless someone else goes kyujo which seems likely. That'll be Fine, Toyonoshima can beat a Juryo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Rocks said: Worse for him is that because of Kasei being out he likely to get a Juryo opponent too. Unless someone else goes kyujo which seems likely. His 1st match was Sunday, and his opponent was Ms1 Takagenji, who won by default (Toyonoshima did not appear). He has not withdrawn from the tournament officially. His next scheduled match will be on day 3 or day 4, unless he withdraws before then. Edited March 12, 2017 by Fukurou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 807 Posted March 13, 2017 He has withdrawn This is obviously a big blow to his hopes of ever getting back to juryo as he will fall a long way down makushita now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,807 Posted March 13, 2017 Man that stinks. I wish him well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,903 Posted March 13, 2017 From my POV it is the best what could have been done. Trade some ranks for health or call it quits. If he heals completely, he has very a good chance making it back to paid ranks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 728 Posted March 14, 2017 On 3/13/2017 at 10:30, Benihana said: From my POV it is the best what could have been done. Trade some ranks for health or call it quits. If he heals completely, he has very a good chance making it back to paid ranks. I wish more guys did that, but it's more about the training between bashos and that wear and tear that is worrisome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,859 Posted March 14, 2017 On 13.3.2017 at 16:30, Benihana said: From my POV it is the best what could have been done. Trade some ranks for health or call it quits. If he heals completely, he has very a good chance making it back to paid ranks. The problem is that the trade-off is pretty much the worst when a rikishi is ranked in high makushita. Further down in the lower divisions: one 0-0-7 demotion = one 6-1 promotion, roughly, so it's not that hard to go back up. On the other hand, going fully absent from Toyonoshima's current position would probably mean at least six months to get back (Ms2 0-0-7 -> Ms42 6-1 -> Ms18 6-1 -> Ms6 6-1 -> Ms2), unless he gets a zensho along the way. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,903 Posted March 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, Asashosakari said: The problem is that the trade-off is pretty much the worst when a rikishi is ranked in high makushita. Further down in the lower divisions: one 0-0-7 demotion = one 6-1 promotion, roughly, so it's not that hard to go back up. On the other hand, going fully absent from Toyonoshima's current position would probably mean at least six months to get back (Ms2 0-0-7 -> Ms42 6-1 -> Ms18 6-1 -> Ms6 6-1 -> Ms2), unless he gets a zensho along the way. Sure, you are absolutely correct, but what should he do? He just can't fight in his condition. One wrong move could mean instant intai. I don't want to change position with him. Horrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted March 15, 2017 Ms2e Toyonoshima (0-1-1) is back in action on day 5. He faces J13w Fujiazuma (0-4). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted March 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Bumpkin said: Ms2e Toyonoshima (0-1-1) is back in action on day 5. He faces J13w Fujiazuma (0-4). Who would have guessed that he will be back in Juryo that fast? I just hope he is really ready to rumble, as it looks like he has to win all his remaining 5 bouts at his current Ms2 rank to have a chance of clinching a promotion for Juryo as both Ms1 guys have already bagged in 2 wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philioyamfugi 378 Posted March 16, 2017 He was back..but lost today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,809 Posted March 18, 2017 and lost again to go MK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philioyamfugi 378 Posted March 18, 2017 Yep lost..he's 0-3-1 going to be MK... But in another universe Orora won by falling on his opponent..ouch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 807 Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) Courtesy of WAKATAKE on the Basho Talk thread: In other news, Toyonoshima finally got a win today, and declared that he intends to continue wrestling for the time being. http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/1797042.html Edited March 24, 2017 by ryafuji 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 437 Posted March 26, 2017 On 3/24/2017 at 23:59, ryafuji said: Courtesy of WAKATAKE on the Basho Talk thread: In other news, Toyonoshima finally got a win today, and declared that he intends to continue wrestling for the time being. http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/1797042.html Good -- ganbatte! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,809 Posted April 10, 2017 For those who want to follow Toyonoshima's rehab in Kumamoto(?), here is his blog.http://ameblo.jp/toyonoshima-daiki/ In other news, fellow veteran Takekaze just got discharged from hospital after undergoing a second operation on his right elbow(?) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites