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Akinomaki    15,493

I wonder why Furiwake wasn't at home in Itayanagi yesterday and had Sendagawa do the task there.

On the 10th he was in Chikusei-city, Ibaraki, to announce a jungyo there on Oct. 9th., after 37 years again. http://ibarakinews.jp/news/newsdetail.php?f_jun=14867337196250

with the mayor

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Akinomaki    15,493

The PR-tour for the Aki-jungyo basho is done by Tanigawa (Hokutoriki).

A basho will be in Yachiyo, Chiba, after 23 years again, on Oct. 5th, the date to commemorate the creation of the city 50 years ago. o

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And on Oct. 11th  a jungyo in Hamamatsu, Shizuoka, for the 4th time there, the last 2 years ago.

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Yubinhaad    6,529

Just like last year's Aki jungyo, the 2017 edition will have 22 events. And with the winter jungyo still to come, deputy jungyo director Tamanoi-oyakata (former Ozeki Tochiazuma) says that there will be over 70 jungyo days in total for the year, the same as 2016.

Before everyone sets off on the jungyo, another "Ozumo Beyond 2020" event will take place at the Kokugikan on October 4th. No further details are available yet about what it will feature this time. Another sandangamae with Kisenosato and Hakuho would be nice! While not officially part of the jungyo, it is shown on the handwritten schedule shown below.

October 5th - Yachiyo, Chiba (Site)
October 6th - Yokohama, Kanagawa
October 7th - Saitama, Saitama (Site)
October 8th - Fuji, Shizuoka (Site)
October 9th - Chikusei, Ibaraki (Site)
October 11th - Hamamatsu, Shizuoka
October 12th - Ichinomiya, Aichi (Site)
October 13th - Nagano, Nagano (Site)
October 14th - Kanazawa, Ishikawa (Site)
October 15th - Kyoto, Kyoto (Site)
October 17th - Takayama, Gifu (Site)
October 18th - Tsu, Mie
October 19th - Kashiba, Nara
October 20th - Hirakata, Osaka
October 21st - Kishiwada, Osaka (Site)
October 22nd - Osaka, Osaka* (Site)
October 24th - Okayama, Okayama (Site)
October 25th - Yabu, Hyogo (Site)
October 26th - Tottori, Tottori (Site)
October 27th - Matsue, Shimane (Site)
October 28th - Hiroshima, Hiroshima (Site)
October 29th - Fukuyama, Hiroshima (Site)

* Referred to as Naniwa Basho, held in the same venue as the Haru basho.

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Akinomaki    15,493

The NSK publishes the handwritten schedule on TwitterDFKX1PXUMAARsG-.jpg:thumbo

On 20.7.2017 at 16:47, Yubinhaad said:

another "Ozumo Beyond 2020" event will take place at the Kokugikan on October 4th. No further details are available yet about what it will feature this time.

While not officially part of the jungyo, it is shown on the handwritten schedule shown below.

Edit: already on the 19th in the papers: http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20170719/sum17071917270005-n1.html

 

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rhyen    786
2 hours ago, John Gunning said:

Kisenosato and Hakuho are slated to do the sanbangamae this year. 

Which means that Kisenosato is going to win another miracle Yusho. 

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rhyen    786

So, with the 76th All Japan Rikishi Championship on the 2nd & Ozumo 2020 on the 4th, this is probably one of their busiest jungyo schedule. 

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Akinomaki    15,493

Kisenosato and Kakuryu will be at the jungyo from the start, Hakuho will join later, Terunofuji, Takayasu and Ura will be kyujo for now. Tagonoura (about Kise): "He has to practice sumo. He rose to this rank by doing keiko, we will do what can be done." (but the keiko he did then was with only minor injuries). About Takayasu: "One by one he got able to walk."

Miyagino about Hakuho: "Still a long way. There are things that not fit well yet."

http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20170927/sum17092712490003-n1.html

 

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Akinomaki    15,493

Anybody not already kyujo has to show up - or show the medical certificate for his injuries

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Gurowake    1,499

I don't understand the point of a jungyo stop somewhere they hold a honbasho every year.  I guess I misunderstand the point of the jungyo, which I thought was bringing sumo to people unable to travel to honbasho.

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Akinomaki    15,493
8 hours ago, Gurowake said:

I don't understand the point of a jungyo stop somewhere they hold a honbasho every year.  I guess I misunderstand the point of the jungyo, which I thought was bringing sumo to people unable to travel to honbasho.

We have to get used to the new concept

On 16.8.2017 at 14:38, Akinomaki said:

The pretext for having that much (rikishi wrecking) jungyo days is that regional locations want to have sumo in their cities as well, but this jungyo has 4 days in Tokyo, with the rikishi going back and forth.

The jungyo is one vital income source for the NSK now - it helped to turn the losses they had for years into the surplus they have recently. And a jungo at some small far away location nets very likely much less than one at the traditional centers.

The jungyo is now especially used as PR for sumo, to keep firing up the sumo boom. And like humans tend to do, to keep the fire burning they deplete the natural resources they have - the health of their rikishi.

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rhyen    786

Sponsorship & Money talks?

EDION seating capacity: 8,000 
Osaka population: 2.691 million
(If you gave everyone 1 ticket, you would need 340 days => 23 annual basho for everyone to see it once live.

Ryogoku kokugikan: 11,098
Tokyo population: 9.273 million 
(Tokyo needs about 840 days, but since they have 3 basho => 18 1/2 annual tickets.

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Tsuchinoninjin    240

Article searching for the blamestorm, jungyo schedule shouldn't be blamed for the injuries they say:

http://www.zakzak.co.jp/spo/news/171003/spo1710030005-n1.html

"The natsu jungyo was way too long and there was no time to let our bodies recuperate" was heard by someone from disembodied voices of rikishi,

"In sumo, it should be understood there's no off season! The jungyo and the honbasho are the two main pillars of the kyokai. For individual rikishi, facing down injury cannot be avoided." was heard from some woke oyakata.

Kitanofuji: "In my time, it was nearly 130 kilos, but now the average weight of makuuchi has passed 160 kilos. Everyone's gotten too big and, lazy butsukari in keiko without anyone going to ground (is the cause of injuries)"

"Nobody's used to falling down, so it is easy to get injury. You can't say this increase of injuries are due to outside forces, acts of god, right?" said Kitanofuji.

The article then also suggests by itself that rikishi aren't doing shiko until sweating enough, and the amount of keiko has become too little. To improve the sumo product on the dohyo, the rikishi's way of thinking needs to change.

"Finally! I've become able to walk again." Takayasu added, unawares that the article was going to later imply that he should've started walking a bit earlier through serious thinking.

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Akinomaki    15,493

The jungyo has started - Yachiyo in Chiba today

NSK

on the way

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Kisenosato trained with Asanoyama

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Kakuryu

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Aminishiki turned 39

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Hakuho with Enho in the heya

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Kintamayama    19,632

So, the Aki Jungyo kicked off today. Yokozuna Kisenosato took on aspiring youngster Asanoyama, 15-2. He was the only Yokozuna to enter the ring today. Left hand grip, right hand overarm grip and good yorikiris were observed by the observant. "I tried a lot of stuff. That's the way I roll, and that's that.. I intend to utilize the jungyo to forge my body and soul in order to be ready for day 1 of Kyushu. Today reminded me of when I was healthy and doing my thang." he said later.

稀勢の里「いろいろ試した」朝乃山相手に15勝2敗
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Asashosakari    9,529
On 28.9.2017 at 07:33, Akinomaki said:

The jungyo is one vital income source for the NSK now - it helped to turn the losses they had for years into the surplus they have recently. And a jungo at some small far away location nets very likely much less than one at the traditional centers.

I don't really buy this notion. Even with the current expansive tours the jungyo schedule still only accounts for, what, 5% of the Kyokai's overall revenues? (~600 million yen out of ~12 billion last year.) Simply increasing the capacity utilization rate of the honbasho venues by a few percentage points over the last couple of years probably brought in more extra money than doubling the jungyo tours did, given that ticket sales seem to total something like 5 to 6 billion yen. They could easily restrict the size of the tours a bit without suffering any major impact to their bottom line.
 

On 28.9.2017 at 07:33, Akinomaki said:

The jungyo is now especially used as PR for sumo, to keep firing up the sumo boom.

I'm not so sure about that, either. Obviously the current boom didn't start with jungyo, and given the limited public impact of jungyo events I kind of doubt that they actually do that much to keep the general interest in sumo high. They might do that locally, but that's certainly not enough to maintain things nationwide. If the public loses interest in honbasho, they could tour 150 days a year and it wouldn't reverse the process.

IMHO, it's rather that they simply haven't given much thought to the idea that it could become necessary to limit their "jungyo supply", perhaps because it's such an unusual and unexpected situation compared to previous years when they had to be grateful for any city and promoter that actually wanted to host an event. Or maybe they have given thought to it, but not early enough to have an effect on this year's tour schedule already.

(And when I suggest limiting their supply, I don't even mean to do that specifically to protect the rikishi. Rather, it might make good financial sense to reduce the number of dates and charge more in turn, given jungyo's new status as a sought-after commodity. Of course, they might be worried that increased fees could hurt them when interest starts to dwindle again...)

The worst part of the recent tours is arguably that the travel itinerary often doesn't make much sense, with frequent lengthy detours to completely different parts of the country. That wasn't much of an issue when there were regular off-days in the schedule, but if they're on the road nearly every day, it really behooves them to work with the promoters to schedule a jungyo route that minimizes the travel distances.

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Akinomaki    15,493

Yokohama today

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Kisenosato again with Asanoyama

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Kakuryu did keiko for the first time

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sanban-geiko with Chiyonokuni

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Aminishiki with Daieisho

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Kakuryu lost to Goeido in the torikumi

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Fukurou    372

Is it do-able to split the touring rikishi into 2 groups, with each group responsible for half the jungyo schedule? That could possibly increase the time available for proper healing and treatment of injuries between basho without having to go out and perform during that process.  For example, divide the rikishi into the Banzuke-East and Banzuke-West groups. B-E goes to Jungyos 1 and 3, B-W to Jungyo 2 and 4. The next year B-E travels to 2 and 4, while B-W is at 1 and 3.

Of course the rikishi appearing would change as the banzuke does, and everyone isn't at every jungyo. The PTBs probably would not like splitting up the heyas for touring based on banzuke rank, so the tour groups could be determined in any number of other ways (by ichimon?). Anyway, just a thought.

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Kintamayama    19,632

Kisenosato trained with Asanoyama for the second straight day. This time, 12-6. Good bouts. "I'd like him to go all out and not just pass the time away during keiko.." said Kisenosato.

.稀勢、連日朝乃山を指名12勝6敗「どんどん力を出してきてほしい」(1)

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Kintamayama    19,632

Kakuryuu called out Chiyonokuni to train today. 10 bouts, 8-2. "No pain or discomfort in the ankle. If I continue to feel like this, Kyushu will be good, I reckon," he said. Today was the first time he trained against sekitori since before the July basho. He said that he was frustrated and angry watching sumo on TV last basho and was raring to go. He was quoted as saying he thinks the kosho system should be brought back, worrying about the many other injured rikishi.

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rhyen    786
3 hours ago, Fukurou said:

Is it do-able to split the touring rikishi into 2 groups, with each group responsible for half the jungyo schedule? That could possibly increase the time available for proper healing and treatment of injuries between basho without having to go out and perform during that process.  For example, divide the rikishi into the Banzuke-East and Banzuke-West groups. B-E goes to Jungyos 1 and 3, B-W to Jungyo 2 and 4. The next year B-E travels to 2 and 4, while B-W is at 1 and 3.

Of course the rikishi appearing would change as the banzuke does, and everyone isn't at every jungyo. The PTBs probably would not like splitting up the heyas for touring based on banzuke rank, so the tour groups could be determined in any number of other ways (by ichimon?). Anyway, just a thought.

But everyone wants to get a piece of Kisenosato, do you propose sawing him in 1/2?

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Ack!    76
59 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Kakuryuu called out Chiyonokuni to train today. 10 bouts, 8-2. "No pain or discomfort in the ankle. If I continue to feel like this, Kyushu will be good, I reckon," he said. Today was the first time he trained against sekitori since before the July basho. He said that he was frustrated and angry watching sumo on TV last basho and was raring to go. He was quoted as saying he thinks the kosho system should be brought back, worrying about the many other injured rikishi.

Moti's choice of words in his translations is always interesting.  I thought I was about the only person who still used the word "reckon," apart from some hillbillies who may have never seen the Internet.  

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Sakura    210
4 hours ago, Ack! said:

Moti's choice of words in his translations is always interesting.  I thought I was about the only person who still used the word "reckon," apart from some hillbillies who may have never seen the Internet.  

I say reckon, but then I'm British.

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Morty    663
43 minutes ago, Sakura said:

I say reckon, but then I'm British.

Me too, and I'm Australian

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Gurowake    1,499

When I saw the title of this oddly named book as a child at the age to which it was targeted, I didn't understand what it was supposed to mean.  "Reckon" wasn't a word I was exposed to at all.  Maybe I had heard "a force to be reckoned with", but that provided no clue as to what it meant in this case.  I thought it might be related to "wreck", but that didn't seem right.  It's weird what things you can remember from childhood.

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