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On 25.1.2017 at 15:55, Akinomaki said:

Kisenosato will get the first citizen's honor award of his other hometown Ryugasaki-city, where he went to the school which has the Kise museum room that is always shown lately. His parents' home is in Ushiku-city.

Of course he also gets the citizen's honor award of his real hometown Ushiku-city, but it's not the first that the city awards. On the 18th next month he will have a parade in Ushiku, 1.5km from the station to the city hall. http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/local/ibaraki/news/20170124-OYTNT50317.html

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Both the ozumo magazine and the NHK ozumo magazine commemorating Kisenosato victory seem to have been sold out.

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5 hours ago, Mihasan said:

Very good first performance. Btw i have always wondered what people are yelling when yokuzuna is doing the foot stomping?
 

Didn't he mess it up at one point? I mean the moment before the third stomp.

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I have a question regarding our newest yokozuna:

Does he already have his own Tachi for the dohyo-iri ceremony? Or do he borrowed a sword from an other yokozuna? Or did he just used a mock-up (empty scabbard with hilt) unless he got his very own?

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more spectator videos from the Meiji shrine

MyJetSetLife had to have been there
Kise alone on rehearsal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlsPYH-bbaI
heading for the award ceremony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxMbtoNcV3g
dohyo-iri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTA2b4Ck2VA

another channel

arriving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A4zFOVzpA8
heading for the award ceremony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Ad4w6yPgE
heading for the dohyo-iri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbpRzmXK__M
backside dohyo-iri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmWlquORw_I

another angle, leaving afterwards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCNPmxsNYM

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Kyodo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c4bUgYyukk

Ibaraki shimbun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLD6RECTiH4

ANN - Asahi TV seems to have the rights on Kise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PSKXfZ-aJI - interview afterwards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT2BkLz9P9w

For Taka 20 000 had been at the shrine, Kise is 2nd best with 18 000.

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Takayasu always looks so concerned. :-)

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3 hours ago, Senkoho said:

Didn't he mess it up at one point? I mean the moment before the third stomp.

I'm hardly a connoisseur of yokozuna dohyo-iri, and maybe Harumafuji's beautiful and graceful shiranui version has left me a bit spoiled, but I was left with the impression that Kise needs more practice.

I noticed he wasn't holding his right arm anything like Shibatayama-oyokata had shown him to during the 'shuffle'. I wonder if Kise knows his fingers naturally form into a Vulcan salute? He might be wanting to live long and prosper, but it looked odd. That shuffle (sorry, I don't know the name of the move, but I know you know what I mean) was also a bit truncated for my liking.

It'll be interesting to see how it develops in future.

 

 

 

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It did look a tad clumsy, and he seemed to forget exactly what to do with his arms before the last shiko, but I'm sure he'll improve.

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Takanohana, Asashoryu and Hakuho do the best dohyo iri in my opinion. Kisenosato did look clumsy, Im a fan but i agree.  But i guess we have to take in factors like his age, weight and that he did not really have alot of time for practicing. Hopefully he will improve later on. And i wish Takanohana taught him instead of Onokuni. 

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Congratulations to Kisenosato

I consider that the promotion of Kisenosato is right and deserved.

If Kisenosato had not been promoted he would have been the ozeki with the best average in sumo history. His winning percentage is higher than well-known great ozeki like Kaio, Tochiazuma, Takanonami, Takanohana (father). His percentage would have been even better than many ozeki who achieved the promotion. Among these the most notable would be Harumafuji and Kakuryu.

         Rikishi               Bouts    W       L      % W
21    Kisenosato          463    329    134    71,06
22    Tochinoumi       145    101     44     69,66
23    Tamanoumi       300    206     94     68,67
24    Harumafuji        319    214     105   67,08
25    Kakuryu            180    119      61     66,11
26    Kitanofuji          315    208     107   66,03
27    Kotokaze            323    213      110   65,94
28    Baruto                202    133       69    65,84
29    Kirishima            215    139       76    64,65
30    Takanonami        553    357    196    64,56
31    Kotozakura         446    287    159    64,35
32    Konishiki             542    346    196    63,84
33    Wakashimazu     395    250    145    63,29
34    Tochiazuma        333    208    125    62,46
35    Kaio                    852    524    328    61,50

As Ozeki, in 31 tournaments, he produced a single make-koshi (2004-1) and 24 double-digit kashi-koshi; And got, as we know, 11 jun-yushô and the yushô that decided its promotion to the rank of yokozuna.

Kisenosato has been a solid, consistent ozeki; And that is the main reason for its promotion. I believe that there are well-founded arguments to think that he will be a good yokozuna and that he will not discredit the yokozuna rank.

Complet list of winning percentage, Promoted and no-promoted ozekis (since 1958)

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            Rikishi              Bouts    W    L    %W
1    Chiyonofuji                 45    38     7     84,44    
2    Asashoryu                  45    38     7     84,44
3    Wajima                       60    50    10    83,33
4    Takanohana             165    137  28    83,03
5    Hakuho                      90    73    17    81,11
6    Akebono                     45    36     9    80,00
7    Kitanoumi                   45    36     9    80,00
8    Takanosato               135   106    29    78,52
9    Wakanohana            152    119    33    78,29
10    Kashiwado              105    82    23    78,10
11    Taiho                         75    58    17    77,33
12    Futahaguro               60    46    14    76,67
13    Wakanohana II       120    92    28    76,67
14    Asahifuji                  255    194    61    76,08
15    Hokutoumi                75    56    19    74,67
16    Asashio                   160    118    42    73,75
17    Musashimaru          486    356    130    73,25
18    Sadanoyama           242    176    66    72,73
19    Wakanohana III       377    274    103    72,68
20    Onokuni                  195    140    55    71,79
21    Kisenosato              463    329    134    71,06
22    Tochinoumi              145    101    44    69,66
23    Tamanoumi             300    206    94    68,67
24    Harumafuji              319    214    105    67,08
25    Kakuryu                  180    119    61    66,11
26    Kitanofuji                 315    208    107    66,03
27    Kotokaze                 323    213    110    65,94
28    Baruto                     202    133    69    65,84
29    Kirishima                 215    139    76    64,65
30    Takanonami             553    357    196    64,56
31    Kotozakura              446    287    159    64,35
32    Konishiki                  542    346    196    63,84
33    Wakashimazu          395    250    145    63,29
34    Tochiazuma             333    208    125    62,46
35    Kaio                         852    524    328    61,50
36    Kiyokuni                  381    234    147    61,42
37    Hokutenyu              623    378    245    60,67
38    Takanohana           702    424    278    60,40
39    Yutakayama           502    301    201    59,96
40    Chiyotaikai             861    515    346    59,81
41    Mienoumi              304    180    124    59,21
42    Asashio                  497    294    203    59,15
43    Tochihikari             319    188    131    58,93
44    Daikirin                  321    189    132    58,88
45    Kotooshu               642    378    264    58,88
46    Dejima                    171    100    71    58,48
47    Kitabayama            430    251    179    58,37
48    Asahikuni               290    168    122    57,93
49    Kotomitsuki            245    141    104    57,55
50    Kotoshogiku          446    255    191    57,17
51    Wakahaguro         180    102    78    56,67
52    Goeido                  222    125    97    56,31
53    Musoyama           334    186    148    55,69
54    Kotogahama        337    185    152    54,90
55    Kaiketsu               135    70    65    51,85
56    Masuiyama            88    44    44    50,00
57    Miyabiyama         115    57    58    49,57
58    Terunofuji            140    69    71    49,29
59    Matsunobori        201    99    102    49,25
60    Daiju                      62    30    32    48,39

 

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Yeah, that 1st dohyo-iri was pretty rough, but he just started learning it yesterday so it'll definitely get better

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I always wondered about where Kise's real home was, Takeshi's 7days had some info:

He was born in Ashiya-city, Hyogo, and since the age of 2 lived in Ryugasaki, Ibaraki. In 2nd year middle school his parents moved to neighboring Ushiku, but he continued to go the same middle school in Ryugasaki. After graduation there he entered ozumo.

Ryugasaki has a substantial claim to declare the new yokozuna a son of their city. I wonder if Ashiya will begin to claim him as well some day.

Yesterday he reported the yusho at a primary school near the heya location, Tokyo's Edogawa-ward
Kyodo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXg6uoEqMY
from NHK news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbE2w_xBXBo

- a little girl said that after a handshake now she can't wash her hands anymore

an interesting part from the news about him with focus on kesho-mawashi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3uun2Y6fps

Baruto was guest

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At the Meiji shrine some 5000 vouchers for the entrance to the main area, where the dohyo-iri took place, were handed to the visitors - the numbers given are those who came to the shrine and tried to watch, not those shown in the videos.

The papers published many yokozuna related statistics (only the numbers not in Japanese of course), all mixed in the overviews.

The Meiji shrine dohyo-iri apparently started with Chiyonoyama, but the data here: http://www.sanspo.com/sports/photos/20170128/sum17012805010005-p3.html only list the number of spectators since Wakanohana I - with the boutlength of the dohyo-iri

I entered the number of visitors in a partial table from the DB

no   shikona debut yok.promot. intai visitors
72   Kisenosato 2002.03 3.2017   18000
71   Kakuryu 2001.11 5.2014   3300
70   Harumafuji 2001.01 9.2012   3000
69   Hakuho 2001.03 5.2007   4300
68   Asashoryu 1999.01 1.2003 2010.01 3000
67   Musashimaru 1989.09 5.1999 2003.11 3800
66   Wakanohana 1988.03 5.1998 2000.03 15000
65   Takanohana 1988.03 11.1994 2003.01 20000
64   Akebono 1988.03 1.1993 2001.01 4000
63   Asahifuji 1981.01 7.1990 1992.01 3000
62   Onokuni 1978.03 9.1987 1991.07 3000
61   Hokutoumi 1979.03 5.1987 1992.05 5000
60   Futahaguro 1979.03 7.1986 1988.01 3000
59   Takanosato 1968.07 7.1983 1986.01 1000
58   Chiyonofuji 1970.09 7.1981 1991.05 10000
57   Mienoumi 1963.07 7.1979 1980.11 2000
56   Wakanohana 1968.07 5.1978 1983.01 5000
55   Kitanoumi 1967.01 7.1974 1985.01 5000
54   Wajima 1970.01 5.1973 1981.03 4000
53   Kotozakura 1959.01 1.1973 1974.07 6000
52   Kitanofuji 1957.01 1.1970 1974.07 2000
51   Tamanoumi 1959.03 1.1970 1971.09 =
50   Sadanoyama 1956.01 1.1965 1968.03 6000
49   Tochinoumi 1955.09 1.1964 1966.11 2000
48   Taiho 1956.09 9.1961 1971.05 3000
47   Kashiwado 1954.09 9.1961 1969.07 =
46   Asashio 1948.10 3.1959 1962.01 5000
45   Wakanohana 1946.11 1.1958 1962.05 8000
44   Tochinishiki   10.1954    
43   Yoshibayama   1.1954    
42   Kagamisato   1.1953    
41   Chiyonoyama   5.1951    

 

other interesting ones:

A table of the yokozuna from Kitanoumi to Kise with tsuna length and -weight, height and weight at the time, promotion basho and dohyo-iri style: http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/img/oh20170127kisenon3-w500_2.jpg

The 15+1 4 yokozuna eras so far, in the last 100 years, with how many basho they lasted: http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/1770257.html

Only 2 times it were 10 or more

  • Chiyonoyama, Kagamisato, Yoshibayama and Tochinishiki 14 basho
  • Kashiwado, Taiho, Tochinoumi and Sadanoyama 11 basho

 

 

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On 27.1.2017 at 15:22, Tsubame said:

I have a question regarding our newest yokozuna:

Does he already have his own Tachi for the dohyo-iri ceremony? Or do he borrowed a sword from an other yokozuna? Or did he just used a mock-up (empty scabbard with hilt) unless he got his very own?

Has no one an answer or got the question just lost?

So I quote myself in hope of an answer!

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On 27.1.2017 at 13:36, Akinomaki said:
On 25.1.2017 at 15:55, Akinomaki said:

Kisenosato will get the first citizen's honor award of his other hometown Ryugasaki-city, where he went to the school which has the Kise museum room that is always shown lately. His parents' home is in Ushiku-city.

Of course he also gets the citizen's honor award of his real hometown Ushiku-city,

And next is the Ibaraki prefecture citizen's honor award - the ceremony is on the 9th when he'll be at the governor's office for a visit. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20170203/sum17020312530004-n1.html

His local koenkai each day gets about 10 new members lately - it has about 1050 now. And Kise goods have sell-outs one after the other. http://ibarakinews.jp/news/newsdetail.php?f_jun=14860470845518

next out of stock is this "Dosukoi! Ushiku's Kisenosato" happi

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On 27.1.2017 at 13:36, Akinomaki said:

On the 18th next month he will have a parade in Ushiku, 1.5km from the station to the city hall.

The poster for Kisenosato's parade http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/local/ibaraki/news/20170203-OYTNT50211.html

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as pdf on the city's Kisenosato page (with a load of pics): http://www.city.ushiku.lg.jp/page/page001213.html

the route

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On 3.2.2017 at 20:07, Akinomaki said:

the Ibaraki prefecture citizen's honor award - the ceremony is on the 9th when he'll be at the governor's office for a visit.

and it was big in the news again

Kyodo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhLNyG02C18

Ibaraki shimbun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAXZKYv2lt0

from NHK 5p.m. news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rdmprOe-MQ

it was even live on TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LiwdeQmU1k

4.jpgo  s-sato2017020906kise-w200_0.jpgo s-sato2017020907kise-w200_1.jpgo 0170209at42_t.jpgo  20170209s00005000223000p_thum.jpgo   spo1702090021-n2.jpgo spo1702090029-n1.jpgo sum17020919230002-m2.jpgo spo1702090021-n3.jpgo spo1702090021-n4.jpgo sum17020919230002-m4.jpgo  spo1702090021-n1.jpgo sum17020919230002-m3.jpgo

he also was at the Ushiku city-hall with his parents etc.

NNN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVM73V2Eob8

spo1702090030-n1.jpgo sum17020919230002-m1.jpgo

recently he was guest commentator at an Ame-foot TV broadcast

bat-207kisenosato-ty170208-w200_0.jpgo 

a new Kototsurugi designed towel on sale next basho

20170206-OHT1I50025-N.jpgo

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5 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

 

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He got nice taste on Watches, looks like "Richard Mille" watch he is wearing.

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12 hours ago, Benevolance said:

I love that towel. 

John going to do a group order for us? LOL

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More from the prefectural honor award ceremony in Mito-city

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I fear that my favorite Mito natto may get more expensive: sales are expected to rise even more with Kise as the face for the region

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and then in Ushiku-city

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and a visit to the company of the head of his Ibaraki koenkai in Tsukuba

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the design for the traditional giant 1ton kids' day (5.5.) kite in Zama-city, Kanagawa: Ki from Kisenosato with -fuu for wind/style (from Taifuu(n) or e.g. Wafuu - Japanese style): the Kise wind is blowing in Japan

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KONISHIKI and others comment on the birth of a home grown Japanese yokozuna

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