rhyen 1,801 Posted January 23, 2017 Looks like he is going with Unryu style, and will be coached by Shibatayama oyakata (I guess Nihonoseki ichimon has no style tradition?) http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20170122-00000366-sph-spo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senkoho 552 Posted January 23, 2017 oh, so it's s already official? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted January 23, 2017 If I'm not mistaken -- Google Translate is especially opaque with this one -- moto-Onokuni is offering to teach Kisenosato the dohyo-iri should he be promoted, of which he is optimistic even though there has been no official announcement which is expected on the 26th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,801 Posted January 23, 2017 and then we have Yoshikaze saying that he needs to keep the 27th open should he be called upon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkinnySumo 32 Posted January 23, 2017 http://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/photo/AS20170123003078.html He is the happiest man in Japan! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,761 Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, SkinnySumo said: http://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/photo/AS20170123003078.html He is the happiest man in Japan! The assortment of recording devices is hilarious. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,585 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) The YDC was unanimous to give the OK to the yokozuna promotion. The nationwide party has begun. Edited January 23, 2017 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gernobono 454 Posted January 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: The nationwide party has begun. all of germany partying? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,585 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) no, only (one street in) Düsseldorf Edited January 23, 2017 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 806 Posted January 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Akinomaki said: The YDC was unanimous to give the OK to the yokozuna promotion. But they can't actually give the OK until a second, extraordinary meeting on Wednesday? So it's official, but not rubber-stamped? Or still unofficial? AAAGH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,585 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) The OK is given to the riji-kai and banzuke conference to promote him: and they had asked the YDC for that OK, so he is not yet yokozuna, but only the end of the world can stop him from becoming one. Now he has the time to prepare for that. Of course there will be a formal decision on Wednesday about the promotion, but the only thing that has a more than 0 probability is if it will be unanimous or not. NHK News7 today about the YDC decision and reactions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngK4a0oj0HU Edited January 23, 2017 by Akinomaki 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,585 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) News every: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHIGkuUuQ2M NHK 5p.m. news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjc8wmr5x_A Kyodo Morning after interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na0DtldS4Zo the "Yokozuna definite now" press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMdboQCdmBw Edited January 23, 2017 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,805 Posted January 23, 2017 9 hours ago, SkinnySumo said: http://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/photo/AS20170123003078.html He is the happiest man in Japan! It never even occurred to me Kise could smile that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,585 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) Dohyo-iri style will be unryu, even though his first shisho Takanosato had used shiranui. That means 2 vs. 2 in style among the yokozuna. Tachi-mochi of course Takayasu, tsuyu-harai is planned to be Nishonoseki's Shohozan. http://mainichi.jp/articles/20170124/ddm/012/050/074000c Edited January 23, 2017 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,585 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) The YDC meeting lasted 10 minutes. They had some nice statistics (to show he's worthy): his and the winning percentage of the last 4 (the Mongolian) yokozuna in the 6 basho before promotion: he has 82%, Kakuryu 73%, Harumafuji 76%, Hakuho only 66% and Asashoryu 80%. After that no objections were heard from the YDC members. He's 3rd on the list of slowest from dohyo debut, and is the same age as his shisho Takanosato was, who was 2nd slowest. http://mainichi.jp/articles/20170124/ddm/035/050/102000c Edited January 23, 2017 by Akinomaki 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 806 Posted January 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: They had some nice statistics (to show he's worthy?): his and the winning percentage of the last 4 (the Mongolian) yokozuna in the 6 basho before promotion: he has 82%, Kakuryu 73%, Harumafuji 76%, Hakuho only 66% and Asashoryu 80%. Hardly seems fair for them to include Hakuho's 0-0-15 in his statistics. If they used the last six basho he actually participated in he would be on 81%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted January 23, 2017 Lies, damn lies and statistics. The kyokai lowered the "two consecutive yusho or yusho equivalent" standard and everyone knows it! They did it because Kisenosato is Japanese and everyone knows it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,900 Posted January 23, 2017 Is this your opinion or dry humor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,585 Posted January 23, 2017 Everyone knows that Kise is Japanese 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigel 62 Posted January 23, 2017 48 minutes ago, Bumpkin said: Lies, damn lies and statistics. The kyokai lowered the "two consecutive yusho or yusho equivalent" standard and everyone knows it! They did it because Kisenosato is Japanese and everyone knows it! Counterpoint: Kakuryu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted January 23, 2017 Kakuryu 14-1D, 14-1Y. Kisenosato 12-3J, 14-1Y. Not quite the same, is it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigel 62 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bumpkin said: Kakuryu 14-1D, 14-1Y. Kisenosato 12-3J, 14-1Y. Not quite the same, is it? Go back more than 2 basho and they look VERY different. Nothing is equivalent to 2 yusho in a span of 2 tournaments. So by definition they have to mean more than 2 tournaments. Edited January 23, 2017 by Rigel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,089 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) Were they ever explicit in stating all possibilities that the yusho equivalent included? Maybe 4 jun-yusho in your last 5 equals a yusho I think it's reasonable to consider performance over more than the last 2 tournaments, and considering how strong Kise has generally been I think his promotion is acceptable, though I understand why people take issue with it. Edited January 23, 2017 by Katooshu 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,585 Posted January 23, 2017 Everyone believes in a some codified standard that says "yusho equivalent" - there is none. It is simply the result that follows right after the yusho - and if that result is 2 wins behind, it is still the next best: but then there is more needed to get accepted for a yokozuna promotion. Kisenosato has provided that with his mass of jun-yusho and most wins last year - had he been yokozuna with those results last year, no one would have called for his retirement, like is done all the time for Harumafuji and Kakuryu. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,089 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) I agree. People get so caught up with the multiple yusho, but winning the most bouts in a year and consistently producing strong results in a way that at least two of the other yoks arent shouldn't just be brushed aside. Going by recent performance he fits right in with the current yokozuna, and is clearly beyond the other ozeki. Edited January 23, 2017 by Katooshu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
