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Persistence Watch - 2017 edition

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(2016 here)

Standings through the first week of the new persistence year:

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Kyonosato Isenoumi Haru 2015 10 Jonokuchi 3 West Jonokuchi 1 23-53 0.303 3-4 2-2
Oatari Shikihide Haru 2015 10 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonidan 99 24-50 0.324 3-4 2-2
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 8 Jonokuchi 18 West Jonokuchi 18 1-51-1 0.019 0-7 0-4
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 5 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 11-24-7 0.314 Bg Bg
Shunpo Minezaki Haru 2016 5 Jonokuchi 3 East Jonokuchi 3 11-21 0.344 3-4 0-4
Miura Asakayama Haru 2016 4 Jonokuchi 7 West Jonokuchi 7 8-19-5 0.296 2-5 2-2
Wada Azumazeki Haru 2016 4 Jonokuchi 9 East Jonokuchi 4 10-22 0.313 1-6 1-3
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 4 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonokuchi 10 5-27 0.156 1-6 1-3

Oatari won the Day 1 matchup of our two newly dai-persisting members at the top of the list, en route to their matching 2-2 records. All in all it doesn't look too likely that we'll be seeing any graduations this time.

In addition, our sole applicant of the basho, Kawaguchi from Shikihide-beya (who'd have thought?), has also started winless and is already set to join us next time.

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Day 9/10:

Makekoshi for Wada and Sawanofuji, and Kyonosato also lost. The other four members were matched up, with Shunpo prevailing over Hattorizakura in the zenpai pairing, and Oatari moving within one win of KK at Miura's expense.

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9 hours ago, YoungSumo said:

I can hardly imagine otherwise but is Hattorizakura the worst rikishi in recorded history?

He has my vote.  

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Win in round 6 for Kyonosato, moving him up to 3-3 for a KK shot in his last bout. Will the shikona change from Hanai pay dividends? Fellow 10-MK'er Oatari missed out in his first chance, however, and also has the even record now. Miura was unsuccessful as well and has fallen to makekoshi at 2-4.

And since I'm an idiot...could I trouble a moderator to split everything since the nakabi post into a new 2017 thread, please?

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On 20.1.2017 at 02:17, Asashosakari said:

could I trouble a moderator to split everything since the nakabi post into a new 2017 thread, please?

Belated thanks! :-)

Unfortunately Kyonosato wasn't able to KK as he lost on Day 13 to former 7-basho persister Shoryudo. Oatari made up for it the next day, however, beating newcomer Yanagawa to achieve his first-ever kachikoshi. 

Hatsu 2017 summary:

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Kyonosato Isenoumi Haru 2015 11 Jonokuchi 3 West Jonokuchi 1 24-55 0.304 3-4 3-4
Oatari Shikihide Haru 2015 10 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonidan 99 26-51 0.338 3-4 4-3
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 8 Jonokuchi 18 West Jonokuchi 18 1-54-1 0.018 0-7 0-7
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 5 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 11-24-7 0.314 Bg Bg
Shunpo Minezaki Haru 2016 5 Jonokuchi 3 East Jonokuchi 3 13-22 0.371 3-4 2-5
Miura Asakayama Haru 2016 5 Jonokuchi 7 West Jonokuchi 7 8-22-5 0.267 2-5 2-5
Wada Azumazeki Haru 2016 5 Jonokuchi 9 East Jonokuchi 4 12-23 0.343 1-6 3-4
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 5 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonokuchi 10 5-30 0.143 1-6 1-6


And our previously mentioned new entrant:

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% 2016.09 2016.11 2017.01
Kawaguchi Shikihide Nagoya 2016 3 Jonokuchi 8 West Jonokuchi 8 2-19 0.095 0-7 2-5 0-7

Given the winning percentage thus far, I foresee another lengthy membership by a Shikihide-beya rikishi...


Edit: On a side note, this basho also featured Shimakaze barely avoiding 10 straight MKs after having kachikoshi experience.

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Haru standings through nakabi:

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Kyonosato Isenoumi Haru 2015 13 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonokuchi 1 26-57 0.313 3-4 2-2
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 9 Jonokuchi 20 West Jonokuchi 18 1-58-1 0.017 0-7 0-4
Wada Azumazeki Haru 2016 5 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonokuchi 4 13-26 0.333 3-4 1-3
Shunpo Minezaki Haru 2016 5 Jonokuchi 6 West Jonokuchi 3 14-25 0.359 2-5 1-3
Miura Asakayama Haru 2016 5 Jonokuchi 7 West Jonokuchi 7 9-25-5 0.265 2-5 1-3
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 5 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonokuchi 10 6-33 0.154 1-6 1-3
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 5 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 11-24-7 0.314 Bg Bg
Kawaguchi Shikihide Nagoya 2016 3 Jonokuchi 20 East Jonokuchi 8 3-22 0.120 0-7 1-3

That does not look too promising...

Meanwhile, Yanagawa tries to avoid joining us.

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We have a surprise challenge for kachikoshi after Wada has made an entirely drug-free rally to 3-3 and is going for his 4th win against undersized Ogiryu tomorrow. Ogiryu fusenpai'd his latest bout on Day 11 but hasn't withdrawn so I'm not quite sure what's up here. Normally he should have too much for a persister opponent, though.

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8 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

We have a surprise challenge for kachikoshi after Wada has made an entirely drug-free rally to 3-3 

excellent!

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Time for long overdue updates...

Closing out Haru basho: Wada didn't manage to convert his KK opportunity after all. Final standings:

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Kyonosato Isenoumi Haru 2015 14 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonokuchi 1 27-59 0.314 3-4 3-4
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 9 Jonokuchi 20 West Jonokuchi 18 1-61-1 0.016 0-7 0-7
Wada Azumazeki Haru 2016 6 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonokuchi 4 15-27 0.357 3-4 3-4
Shunpo Minezaki Haru 2016 6 Jonokuchi 6 West Jonokuchi 3 15-27 0.357 2-5 2-5
Miura Asakayama Haru 2016 6 Jonokuchi 7 West Jonokuchi 7 10-27-5 0.270 2-5 2-5
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 6 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonokuchi 10 6-37 0.140 1-6 1-7
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 5 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 11-24-7 0.314 Bg Bg
Kawaguchi Shikihide Nagoya 2016 4 Jonokuchi 20 East Jonokuchi 8 4-24 0.143 0-7 2-5


And our prospective applicant didn't manage to escape either:

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% 2016.11 2017.01 2017.03
Yanagawa Otake Aki 2016 3 Jonokuchi 2 East Jonokuchi 2 9-12 0.429 3-4 3-4 3-4

 

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Everyone bar Hattorizakura got promoted to jonidan to make room for the Haru rookies. Kawaguchi is now known as Satsumao.

Natsu results through nakabi...

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Kyonosato Isenoumi Haru 2015 14 Jonidan 98 West Jonidan 98 29-61 0.322 3-4 2-2
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 10 Jonokuchi 29 East Jonokuchi 18 1-65-1 0.015 0-7 0-4
Wada Azumazeki Haru 2016 6 Jonidan 101 West Jonidan 101 16-30 0.348 3-4 1-3
Shunpo Minezaki Haru 2016 6 Jonidan 107 East Jonidan 107 17-29 0.370 2-5 2-2
Miura Asakayama Haru 2016 6 Jonidan 108 East Jonidan 108 12-29-5 0.293 2-5 2-2
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 7 Jonidan 110 East Jonidan 110 6-41 0.128 1-7 0-4
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 5 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 11-24-7 0.314 Bg Bg
Satsumao Shikihide Nagoya 2016 4 Jonidan 109 West Jonidan 109 7-25 0.219 2-5 3-1
Yanagawa Otake Aki 2016 3 Jonidan 99 East Jonidan 99 11-14 0.440 3-4 2-2


In addition we've got sign-up forms ready for Nishimura, Tatsunofuji and Noborifuji.
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And in a shocking development - our fearless leader Kyonosato is kachikoshi now! :-O And he's done it in the most appropriate way:

  • First win: Daishiryu, former 25-basho persister
  • Second win: Asatatsuke, former 9-basho persister
  • Third win: Isamiryu, former 38-basho persister
  • Fourth win: Hokutosato, former 14-basho persister


Satsumao, meanwhile, failed to KK at the first time of asking on Day 9, but his opponent was a former makushita guy returning from injury so there wasn't much to hope for there. Shunpo improved to 3-2 against applicant Noborifuji, and in fact Day 12 will now see Satsumao and Shunpo going head-to-head for their 4th win and graduation.

Miura and Yanagawa dropped to 2-3 in the fifth round, but Miura collected win #3 today (again with Noborifuji on the losing end), and can still get his kachikoshi. Yanagawa faces fellow club 2-3'er Wada tomorrow, so one of them will also be getting an opportunity for KK at the end.

And last not least, Sawanofuji and Hattorizakura had both dropped to 0-5 and met today, with Sawanofuji winning it and running their head-to-head score to 6-1 in his favour.

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On 24.5.2017 at 14:48, Asashosakari said:

... Day 12 will now see Satsumao and Shunpo going head-to-head for their 4th win and graduation.

And the winner is Shunpo! Congrats to our second graduate of the basho. Satsumao has blown his second opportunity with that, but he'll have one last shot tomorrow against rookie Tanaka. Wada-Yanagawa was also on the docket, but at 2-3, and winner Yanagawa can now still hope to KK. Looks like his last bout will be against veteran lower-ranker Tomiyama, not an easy task. Last not least, Miura is also facing a newcomer in Nagaya for his potential 4th win.

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Miura wasn't able to reach the winning shores on Day 13, but the next day did bring a third graduation: Yanagawa had a very nice win (video here) over Tomiyama to clinch his kachikoshi. Well done!

Final standings for Natsu basho:

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Kyonosato Isenoumi Haru 2015 14 Jonidan 98 West Jonidan 98 31-62 0.333 3-4 4-3
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 10 Jonokuchi 29 East Jonokuchi 18 1-68-1 0.014 0-7 0-7
Wada Azumazeki Haru 2016 7 Jonidan 101 West Jonidan 101 18-31 0.367 3-4 3-4
Shunpo Minezaki Haru 2016 6 Jonidan 107 East Jonidan 107 19-30 0.388 2-5 4-3
Miura Asakayama Haru 2016 7 Jonidan 108 East Jonidan 108 13-31-5 0.295 2-5 3-4
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 7 Jonidan 110 East Jonidan 110 7-43 0.140 1-7 1-6
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 5 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 11-24-7 0.314 Bg Bg
Satsumao Shikihide Nagoya 2016 5 Jonidan 109 West Jonidan 109 7-28 0.200 2-5 3-4
Yanagawa Otake Aki 2016 3 Jonidan 99 East Jonidan 99 13-15 0.464 3-4 4-3


All the attention is on Hattorizakura, but at any other time we'd probably be talking about Sawanofuji in much the same way. He's got just 7 career wins, and 6 of them have been against Hattorizakura...


Fresh blood is being delivered in the form of these two newcomers:

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% 2017.01 2017.03 2017.05
Tatsunofuji Isegahama Kyushu 2016 3 Jonidan 108 West Jonidan 108 5-16 0.238 2-5 2-5 1-6
Noborifuji Isegahama Kyushu 2016 3 Jonidan 109 East Jonidan 109 6-15 0.286 2-5 2-5 2-5


Onward to the second half of the year!

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Some excellent sumo between new entrant Noborifuji and former five-year member Azumayama today:
 

 

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Somewhat surprisingly 3-4's weren't enough to remain in jonidan after Natsu basho, not even for Wada who had 9 ranks to spare, so we're already back to an all-jonokuchi club in July. The results through nakabi:

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 11 Jonokuchi 28 West Jonokuchi 18 1-72-1 0.014 0-7 0-4
Wada Azumazeki Haru 2016 7 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonidan 101 20-33 0.377 3-4 2-2
Miura Asakayama Haru 2016 7 Jonokuchi 4 West Jonidan 108 16-32-5 0.333 3-4 3-1
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 8 Jonokuchi 12 West Jonidan 110 7-47 0.130 1-6 0-4
Satsumao Shikihide Nagoya 2016 5 Jonokuchi 5 East Jonidan 109 9-30 0.231 3-4 2-2
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 5 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 11-24-7 0.314 Bg Bg
Noborifuji Isegahama Kyushu 2016 3 Jonokuchi 8 East Jonidan 109 7-18 0.280 2-5 1-3
Tatsunofuji Isegahama Kyushu 2016 3 Jonokuchi 12 East Jonidan 108 7-18 0.280 1-6 2-2

Very nice start for Miura and he'll be getting a whole week's worth of KK opportunities now. His first four opponents were all former or current persisters though, and the remaining three matchups are unlikely to be quite so favourable. I do hope that we'll be getting at least one kachikoshi between him and the trio of 2-2's.

Hattorizakura and Sawanofuji will be meeting tomorrow, for the 8th straight tournament.
 

We had a nominal contender for membership application in Kaishinho, but his recently discovered thievery exploits have put the kibosh on that.

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Filling in what happened during the second week...

Miura did not manage to convert his first two KK shots and so found himself at 3-3 after twelve days, but thankfully the scheduling came to his rescue again in the end, as his final bout turned out to be against Hokutosato and his own history as a former 14-basho persister. It's one of the less impressive 4-3's ever in here, but congrats to our lucky graduate all the same!

Wada and Tatsunofuji weren't able to capitalize on their 2-2 starts and fell straight down to 2-5 in week two. Satsumao moved up to 3-2 initially, but unfortunately wasn't able to clinch a kachikoshi from there. Sawanofuji had the best second week among the members, although that just meant a final score of 2-5 after his 0-4 start. (However, that included his second-ever win against an opponent not named Hattorizakura!) Hattorizakura for his part finished with his sadly customary 0-7 record. Lastly, Noborifuji improved to 2-3 only to fall to makekoshi in his 6th bout, and then proceeded to miss his final match altogether. We don't have video of #6, so I don't know if he suffered an injury there.

The final standings:

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 11 Jonokuchi 28 West Jonokuchi 18 1-75-1 0.013 0-7 0-7
Wada Azumazeki Haru 2016 8 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonidan 101 20-36 0.357 3-4 2-5
Miura Asakayama Haru 2016 7 Jonokuchi 4 West Jonidan 108 17-34-5 0.333 3-4 4-3
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 8 Jonokuchi 12 West Jonidan 110 9-48 0.158 1-6 2-5
Satsumao Shikihide Nagoya 2016 6 Jonokuchi 5 East Jonidan 109 10-32 0.238 3-4 3-4
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 5 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 11-24-7 0.314 Bg Bg
Noborifuji Isegahama Kyushu 2016 4 Jonokuchi 8 East Jonidan 109 8-20 0.286 2-5 2-5
Tatsunofuji Isegahama Kyushu 2016 4 Jonokuchi 12 East Jonidan 108 7-21 0.250 1-6 2-5

Satoiazuma has now been banzuke-gai for a whopping 10 tournaments. Tamanoi-beya doesn't strike me as a stable that just lets long-gone deshi remain registered like that, so I assume he's still planning to get back on the dohyo at some point, but it's getting very long now.

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On 18/01/2017 at 14:14, YoungSumo said:

I can hardly imagine otherwise but is Hattorizakura the worst rikishi in recorded history?

At least he has one win! 

 

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And his one win came a long time ago.  I think one can win in accidental way more than once in 76 tries, especially, when competing among fellow jonokuchi rikishi.   

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I thought he actually looked a bit better this tournament, though it doesnt show in his record.

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11 hours ago, Katooshu said:

I thought he actually looked a bit better this tournament, though it doesnt show in his record.

He keeps improving. This basho he had come close to winning a few times but lacked the stamina and strength to make the final push.
His performance looks a lot better now, I hope he won't be disheartened by his losses and continues to improve.
 

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I hope he quits and start on another career.   It may be fun for some of us to watch him struggle but IMO, he has already proved himself that he can be a rikishi (albeit very poor one at that) and had his fun.   My fatherly advice ....

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Is it just me or do some of the kids at this level look like they do not even want to be there? At least Hattorizakura looks as if he is trying, albeit unsuccessfully.

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