Asojima 2,870 Posted January 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, Nantonoyama said: Brilliant moves by both Osunaarashi and Yoshikaze. Yoshikaze's grab was very impressive, but I thought that it was forbidden to grab the opponent's mawashi by the vertical strip (the one that goes between the cheeks)... Back vertical legal. Front vertical illegal. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,900 Posted January 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, Nantonoyama said: Brilliant moves by both Osunaarashi and Yoshikaze. Yoshikaze's grab was very impressive, but I thought that it was forbidden to grab the opponent's mawashi by the vertical strip (the one that goes between the cheeks)... I asked the same question some weeks ago. Seems it's forbidden in ama-sumo only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALAKTORN 346 Posted January 9, 2017 In a picture from training Hakuhō’s upper body looked completely in ruin to me, but in his bout he looked good. Do we know if he’s lost weight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted January 9, 2017 3 hours ago, kuroimori said: Hmmm, it didn't look like a late shove (dame oshi - or is it dame Osu??) to me, more like he wanted to untangle his arms in order to prevent going down with Chiyoo. Well, you might be right. I watched it again to check but still wasn't entirely sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,083 Posted January 9, 2017 Some nice power in lower makushita: 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted January 9, 2017 Does Musashikuni have what it takes to make Juryo? Makuuchi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigel 62 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) For those who were interested in the kid from Texas, Wakaichiro won his first match in Jonokuchi. I assume someone will have a video up at some point, since we saw all 3 of his matches 2 months ago. Edited January 9, 2017 by Rigel 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fwuzzle23 66 Posted January 9, 2017 Another close one for Osu! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jojo 11 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Katooshu said: Some nice power in lower makushita: That is quite, quite nice! Well done Kirinofuji... Edited January 9, 2017 by Jojo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nantonoyama 239 Posted January 9, 2017 8 hours ago, Asojima said: Back vertical legal. Front vertical illegal. Okay, Thank you for this helpful precision Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 974 Posted January 9, 2017 Mitakeumi looks awesome so far. Ozekis are looking shaky on the other hand, highlighted by Terunofuji's poor start two bashos in a row. At the last basho this time, I predicted Teruno to go kadoban. I am going to predict it again. Come on, Teruno. Don't prove me wrong again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jojo 11 Posted January 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, robnplunder said: Mitakeumi looks awesome so far. Ozekis are looking shaky on the other hand, highlighted by Terunofuji's poor start two bashos in a row. At the last basho this time, I predicted Teruno to go kadoban. I am going to predict it again. Come on, Teruno. Don't prove me wrong again. He, Terunofuji, needs to sort out his ta tachiai, he clearly made the adjustment to stay lower today, which is a good idea, but got caught the other way... At least, I believe, he's going in the right direction; better that than seeing him powerlessly try to swing-dangle opponent out with that double arm lock he has to do when he's too upright... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyuunomori 226 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Some really stellar sumo two days in a row. Sakamoto (I swear Sakamoto is much cooler than whatever his shikona name is, so I will keep calling him Sakamoto) is doing good! Two wins in a row. Just watch, he is gonna destroy whole Juryo and his whole 4-3 streak was just to let him train more while being pro, and reason he won only by 4-3 records was to keep advancing slowly so he wouldn't injure himself. Ura is getting heftier and heftier, he is still awesome though and looks healthy. Shodai was sleeping and intimidated yesterday, today? Not really. Mitakeumi got his first Kinboshi today. He also showed us why he is one of the ''three''...hell let's just say two rising dragons of Japan. Endo doesn't have it. Shodai and Mitakeumi do. Osunaarashi is perfoming well. He performed my old favourite kimarite yesterday, Utchari. Yesterday Yoshikaze performed my new favourite kimarite ever. Tsuriotoshi is pretty rad. Edited January 9, 2017 by Jyuunomori 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,479 Posted January 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Jojo said: He, Terunofuji, needs to sort out his ta tachiai, he clearly made the adjustment to stay lower today, which is a good idea, but got caught the other way... At least, I believe, he's going in the right direction; better that than seeing him powerlessly try to swing-dangle opponent out with that double arm lock he has to do when he's too upright... Everyone has worked out how to handle the double arm lock (or whatever it's called). He hasn't won with that for ages. I suspect the injuries have limited his power game and he doesn't have quite enough ability to adjust his technique to compensate for that limitation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,804 Posted January 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Jyuunomori said: Osunaarashi is perfoming well. He performed my old favourite kimarite yesterday, Utchari. He looks strong, but the knee doesn't. He was barely able to squat at the end there. I'd say it's better than 50% he doesn't finish this basho. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted January 9, 2017 49 minutes ago, Morty said: 3 hours ago, Jojo said: He, Terunofuji, needs to sort out his ta tachiai, he clearly made the adjustment to stay lower today, which is a good idea, but got caught the other way... At least, I believe, he's going in the right direction; better that than seeing him powerlessly try to swing-dangle opponent out with that double arm lock he has to do when he's too upright... Everyone has worked out how to handle the double arm lock (or whatever it's called). He hasn't won with that for ages. I suspect the injuries have limited his power game and he doesn't have quite enough ability to adjust his technique to compensate for that limitation It's awkward to see him struggle. He had been so much more than what he is capable of now. He seems to have little to no driving power. His moves appear feeble, without authority. How long is this suffering going to last, I wonder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,479 Posted January 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, orandashoho said: It's awkward to see him struggle. He had been so much more than what he is capable of now. He seems to have little to no driving power. His moves appear feeble, without authority. How long is this suffering going to last, I wonder. I guess until he takes the time off to heal properly 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jojo 11 Posted January 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Morty said: Everyone has worked out how to handle the double arm lock (or whatever it's called). He hasn't won with that for ages. I suspect the injuries have limited his power game and he doesn't have quite enough ability to adjust his technique to compensate for that limitation 12 minutes ago, orandashoho said: It's awkward to see him struggle. He had been so much more than what he is capable of now. He seems to have little to no driving power. His moves appear feeble, without authority. How long is this suffering going to last, I wonder. Mostly agree with everything said, I believe his tachiai should be more forward and a bit less upward, because when he is stood up, he's fairly helpless... Clearly injuries have hampered him, but I recall a YT video, I believe the first one of him ever uploaded (at least under his shikona), where is is given a serious work session by ex-Tokitenku who seems to insist heavily on him going lower and staying lower, including making him crouch-walk as low as possible around the dohyo (also include Harumafuji slapping his ass with a broomstick, as a very special bonus), so it might be an issue rooted in his morphology too. Either way, it's a bit sad to see him struggle like that, his emergence made those bashos very exciting!! Let's hope he finds his groove soon! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gijo 27 Posted January 9, 2017 12 hours ago, ALAKTORN said: In a picture from training Hakuhō’s upper body looked completely in ruin to me, but in his bout he looked good. Do we know if he’s lost weight? Hakuho is a master in hinding his troubles. For sure, today's bout goes with some others last basho, showing that he's maybe in decline, or just injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted January 9, 2017 Woo, Mitakeumi! This is shaping up to be a good basho for him, let's hope he can keep it going. And of course, big congrats on kinboshi #1. Looking ready for the exact opposite of a good basho is Ishiura. Good luck, man... If you have any tricks up your sleeve, it's past time to start deploying them. You know, it used to be that with Osunaarashi, if you had him on the bales, he would defend with his leg strength as he has done the past two days, but unless he was able to get the action back towards the center, that more often than not ended with his losing. The fact that he's been able to recover in this fashion I think is indicative of his maturation as a rikishi. But, you know the Osunaarashi fan mantra: "So much potential, so many injuries." Chiyonokuni gets mention for looking cool against Aoiyama, and Chiyoshoma warrants mention because of...that... Well, at least we know his knee is good. Kotoyuki...hon, listen. Your henka blows. When your handling is such that they need to put a "this vehicle makes wide right turns" sticker on your butt, and your vertical leap is in the single-digit centimeter range... Congratulations on the win. Now stop it. XP Shodai looking more like himself today, good... Tamawashi's a solid wrestler, but Kisenosato just has his number apparently. Wasn't even in there long enough to break a sweat. Felt bad for Shohozan. Kak was in an irrecoverable position, but he did step out, so... Ah, well. Still, he's not looking bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALAKTORN 346 Posted January 9, 2017 Mitakeumi is looking good. I think Kakuryū–Shōhōzan should’ve been a torinaoshi. Pretty weird call… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,799 Posted January 9, 2017 47 minutes ago, ALAKTORN said: Mitakeumi is looking good. I think Kakuryū–Shōhōzan should’ve been a torinaoshi. Pretty weird call… They have learnt from Sadanoumi-Harumafuji bout that kinboshi are getting way too precious to be handed out like halloween candies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) I am calling BS on Kakuryu (yorikiri) Shohozan. Either Shohozan won via "dead body" or he lost via "inadvertent step-out". IMHO, he won. Edited January 9, 2017 by Bumpkin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,549 Posted January 9, 2017 I think the misbelief that there is no yokozuna run this basho needs to be corrected. The Daily headline yesterday "Kisenosato, for whom a yokozuna run is on the line ..." can still be interpreted to mean that he needs a good result to have a run next time, but Sponichi the day before asked in the headline if a overpowering yusho (not just 15-0) is enough, quoting Nishonoseki: "After we watched till the last day", and I read about other oyakata (I think it was no.2. Oguruma) talking in a similar way. Kise is always in 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harry 67 Posted January 9, 2017 4 jun-yunshos in the past 5 bashos should be worth something... is it enough that a jun-yusho followed by zensho-yusho would give him the rope? Bend the rules for a Japanese yokozuna, even one that might not get another yusho? Hard to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
