Asashosakari 19,319 Posted December 3, 2016 Just getting the thread up for tomorrow's (Sunday) event. Any bets on whether a university or a business guy will be coming out on top this year? In any case, NHK will be covering the late rounds for one hour starting from 5pm JST. (By the way, was there no thread on last year's event at all or did it get deleted? Or was the info bunched into another thread I failed to look at?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,454 Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Asashosakari said: was there no thread on last year's event at all or did it get deleted? I definitely posted a thread about Turbold winning it - but a search about Turbold jumps from one find on June 7th this year to August 2014. Must have happened with the forum upgrade - like the many threads with quote problems. I can't find anything on the pages of my own contents either - and some strange jumps of dates in those lists - maybe some 100s of my and other members' posts got deleted with the update. I'll check my own (partial) backups from before the update. Unfortunately, each year's December posts are missing in my archive. I did the backup when the change started, but apparently it was too late already. All December backups were useless, but I found out only after the forum search changed - and then I couldn't do my backup anymore. Edited December 3, 2016 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,319 Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) I'm sure I used to know this...how many rikishi in the field altogether? And the tournament format is three prelim bouts and then everyone with 2 or 3 wins goes on to the knockouts, right...? Edit: Okay, 68 altogether according to the on-screen graphics. Edited December 4, 2016 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,319 Posted December 4, 2016 Man, Nakade's knees look worse than anybody's in Ozumo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 975 Posted December 4, 2016 Congrats to the winner. He starts at Makushita 10 if he wishes to enter ozumo, right? He's a graduating senior so we are likely to see him next year. BTW, who get to qualify to enter the all Japan Amateur championship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,319 Posted December 4, 2016 Chuo 4th year Yago takes it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,454 Posted December 4, 2016 1 hour ago, robnplunder said: Congrats to the winner. He starts at Makushita 10 if he wishes to enter ozumo, right? He's a graduating senior so we are likely to see him next year. BTW, who get to qualify to enter the all Japan Amateur championship? Makushita 15, for a start from 10, one more of the other 3 titles is needed. There were 32 from corporate sumo, 34 students and 2 from high school - juniors winners, I guess from kokutai and from the inter-high, they both lost in the preliminaries. I don't know about the details of the rankings for student and corporate sumo that determine the qualification to enter the All-Japan championships. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,454 Posted December 4, 2016 BTW, has anybody ever won all 3 possible major titles: amateur yokozuna, kokutai champion and either student - or corporate yokozuna? None under the present ms15/10 TD system, IIRC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,454 Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, John Gunning said: Looks like you need all three to make it into the knockout stages from what I can see on the board. Turbold just lost in the round of 16 NHK said he lost in the 1st round of the final tournament. He wasn't in the best 16 lineup, with which NHK started. Edited December 4, 2016 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,319 Posted December 4, 2016 Considering they called the last 16 "third round", I would guess that a little more than 32 competitors came through the prelims and the 1st round was the last 36 or something like that. If Turbold had to compete in that, he must have lost one of his preliminary bouts, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,454 Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) In last year's videos, the 1st round of the final tournament had only 4 bouts and the winners went to the undetermined positions in the 2nd round of the best 32 - all the knockout stage. Edited December 4, 2016 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,454 Posted December 4, 2016 2 videos of the NHK broadcast 480p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHQoJKrOuzY 1080p, starts a bit later, with frame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiWSJDnF47A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,454 Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Asashosakari said: the 1st round was the last 36 or something like that. If Turbold had to compete in that, he must have lost one of his preliminary bouts, too. Turbold's first round was the 2nd round http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/1747333.html Yago - final vs. 1st year Fukai with the Emperor's cup - a bit smaller than in ozumo o o o o o o o o o o o Edited December 4, 2016 by Akinomaki 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,108 Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Asashosakari said: Chuo 4th year Yago takes it. So he beat Othello? Still, he looks gigantic. What are his vitals? Edited December 4, 2016 by Kintamayama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 975 Posted December 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: So he beat Othello? Still, he looks gigantic. What are his vitals? 160kg of pure steel on 187 cm (my guess) frame? I thought I've heard 160kg but my Japanese listening can't be trusted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikawa 1,794 Posted December 4, 2016 6 hours ago, Asashosakari said: Considering they called the last 16 "third round", I would guess that a little more than 32 competitors came through the prelims and the 1st round was the last 36 or something like that. If Turbold had to compete in that, he must have lost one of his preliminary bouts, too. Based on what I can find, 37 rikishi made it to the first round 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,319 Posted December 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Kintamayama said: So he beat Othello? Still, he looks gigantic. What are his vitals? 186 cm / 165 kg according to NHK's on-screen graphics. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,108 Posted December 4, 2016 My, my..Noguchi.. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,108 Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Turbold just announced he is joining Nishikido beya. John, is that a good thing? He will start at Makushita tsukedashi 15. Edited December 4, 2016 by Kintamayama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bettega 431 Posted December 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Kintamayama said: Turbold just announced he is joining Nishikido beya. John, is that a good thing? He will start at Makushita tsukedashi 15. Oh man... that one from Homarenishiki? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 975 Posted December 5, 2016 1 hour ago, bettega said: Oh man... that one from Homarenishiki? I guess other beya already have their one foreigner rikishi. [sarcasm mode on] Now it's clear. The beya pushed Homarenshiki out to replace with more promising foreigner rikishi. The beya hit the jackpot in Torubrudo. [sarcasm mode off] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MumboJumbo 37 Posted December 5, 2016 3 hours ago, robnplunder said: I guess other beya already have their one foreigner rikishi. [sarcasm mode on] Now it's clear. The beya pushed Homarenshiki out to replace with more promising foreigner rikishi. The beya hit the jackpot in Torubrudo. [sarcasm mode off] Ah ha! Nishikido just wanted to get in the headlines through that whole scandal so Turbold would notice them! True geniuses ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 975 Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) 54 minutes ago, MumboJumbo said: Ah ha! Nishikido just wanted to get in the headlines through that whole scandal so Turbold would notice them! True geniuses ;) You nailed it! Torubrudo needs to come through with his performance though. If he can't get out of Makushita in 6 bashos, the beya will come out with another devious scheme to get rid of him. Back on topic, how much do non-collegian riksihi train while holding their job? Are they even working? Or, train full time to represent a company they are working for? Edited December 5, 2016 by robnplunder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,454 Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, John Gunning said: Turbold won his first three bouts then I think he won one in the knockout stages but because of the numbers some guys had an extra knockout bout before the round of 32. He was reported to have lost his first bout (in the final=knockout tournament), and that was round 2. He isn't one of the 8 who had to do round 1 of the final tournament, on page 2 of the results: http://sumorenmei.moo.jp/category/平成28年度/第65回全日本相撲選手権大会/page/2/ Obviously top seed, he's always listed first for the preliminary rounds. Edited December 5, 2016 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikawa 1,794 Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Winner: Yago Takanori (矢後 太規, Chuo University) Runner-Up: Fukai Takudo (深井 拓斗, Toyo University) 3rd Place: Arakizeki Kengo (荒木関 賢悟, Toyo University Staff) 3rd Place: Kurokawa Soichiro (黒川 宗一郎, Aisin Light Metals) Quarter-Finals: Terasawa Shigeru (寺沢 樹, Toyo University) Quarter-Finals: Murata Ryo (村田 亮, Toyo University) Quarter-Finals: Furukawa Takahiro (古川 貴博, Nihon University) Quarter-Finals: Nakade Yuma (中出 雄真, Toyo University Staff) Edited December 5, 2016 by mikawa 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites