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[Rocks 1,807]

Just to add. I think saying players should get a rank for every win in their differential AND more wins is higher when they end up the same rank AND all KKs over MKs is a bit too dynamic. If a J2 9-6 didn't warrant dropping a 7-8 M14 one basho it shouldn't warrant it the next just because that J2 has someone at J1 who is 8-7 and must be promoted. 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Rocks

[Jejima 1,346]

Thank you for your input,   As stated previously, the Bench banzuke is made using slightly different principles than ozumo - in that we purposefully intend for it to be more dynamic. The examples given I agree with if it were Ozumo, but this is Bench Sumo, where we hope to see movement on the banzuke. In Bench Sumo, we reward KKs with at least what they deserve, whenever possible. There is a limit to this, which is why there is sometimes banzuke bad luck for those with a KK - but it is rare. We also reward the really good records. I know that I previously mentioned that we have had only one 15-0 (in all divisions) in the whole history of Bench Sumo. I think we have had only two or three 14-1 scores in that time period, and probably no more than about 20  or so 13-2 records. So basically, a 13-2 record in Bench is similar to 15-0 in Ozumo, 12-3 is probably similar to a 14-1 or 13-2, and even an 11-3 is probably a 12-3 equivalent.

Anyway, with our system of banzuke making that has been going on for a quarter of a century, we have seen a lot of movement in the banzuke, and new (good) players can feasibly hope to reach Makunouchi within a couple of years of playing the game.

There are a few occasions (such as the BIG logjam at the top of Juryo for this past banzuke) where this means that some MK players get more bad banzuke luck than  usual. But these occasions are thankfully very rare. 

I appreciate that there may not be complete agreement with our methods, but I hope that at least, that it can be understood that there is some ';method to the madness'.

 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Jejima

[Jakusotsu 5,874]

Amen.

[Rocks 1,807]

17 hours ago, Jejima said:

We also reward the really good records. I know that I previously mentioned that we have had only one 15-0 (in all divisions) in the whole history of Bench Sumo. I think we have had only two or three 14-1 scores in that time period, and probably no more than about 20  or so 13-2 records. So basically, a 13-2 record in Bench is similar to 15-0 in Ozumo, 12-3 is probably similar to a 14-1 or 13-2, and even an 11-3 is probably a 12-3 equivalent.

Yes, I kind of addressed this but let it pass as I didn't think you were going to make it a foundational part of your argument. Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of statistics would not expect this to hold up to scrutiny. The scores over time in both Bench and Ozumo can be expressed as a Bell Curve containing basically the same amount of information as the amount of rikishi roughly match. If you compress a Bell Curve from the sides it doesn't suddenly spike in the middle at 7/8-8/7. The intervening scores will also rise. And the Bell Curve for Bench is being squeezed because it has a significantly higher amount of luck involved making extreme high and low scores less common as the factors which contribute to those in Ozumo, injury at one end and extreme skill and physical ability at the other, do not exist.  You don't have many extreme scores in Bench due to some great rise in skill as opposed to Ozumo. It's just  14 to 15 wins is not something that can be achieved on skill often in Bench. Luck, is a cruel mistress. One Ozumo Ozeki and Yokozuna do not deal with much in their prime. One Bench players, even the best, dance with every night.  This does not hold true for scores lower than say 13. In fact you would expect these to rise for bench as there is skill involved and it will show up.

 

Let's analyze the figures (per Takaoroppa) since the start of 1999:

Record          Bench        Ozumo     Ozumo -Y/O

9-6                 2413           1304         1200

10-5              1522              814           715

11-4                 657              449           378

12 -3                329              219            150

13 -2                 61               136               76

14-1                   13                 76               23

15-0                      1                 28                 2  

As you can see if we attribute half the scores in bench to J/M they roughly come into to line with the Ozumo figures minus the Y/O. Y/O level skill is something that might  exist rarely in Bench  players but never expressed due to the fact good players are picking basically the same lineup and must deal with a lot of luck. Players scoring double digits wins on a consistent basis simply do not exist in Bench. it is common in  ozumo at the very top level. Even with that scores of 13 wins and higher are overwhelmingly attributable to not just Yokozuna but Dai-Yokozuna, something which will not and can not exist in bench with a full J/M. No amount of skill is getting you to 14 or 15 wins in Bench, Skill will put you in position but only luck will get you that far. A bunch of injuries take out a few of the best rikishi and someone picking an odd lineup of players who have career best basho maybe. 

 

 I haven't, and won't, do a detailed analysis but I'd be willing to bet a small amount that Bench actual has a higher percentage of players with 9 to 12 wins than Ozumo does. Starting at say 5% at 12 and moving up a bit as you get closer to 8. 

 

You can, and should,  hold to your traditions but do so for the real reasons,  you wish to. Not because it has any basis in the numbers. By the numbers there isn't any reason to do it significantly differently than Ozumo. You could argue a 13-2 in Bench is like a 13.5 in ozumo. A 12-3 is a 12-3, or maybe even a little less.

[Jejima 1,346]

Hi everyone!

 

Here is the new banzuke for September 2023. It was put together by Sakura, Flohru and Jejima (me), with the usual wise four watching on.

 

I think that this banzuke has fewer areas of bad banzuke luck, with reasonable dollops of good banzuke luck. See for yourself!

 

Enjoy!

 

Jejima (BS rijicho)

 

pandaazuma (O1E, 9-6) O1 Joaoiyama (O1W, 9-6)
Kaito (M1W, 12-3) S1 Rubensan (S1E, 8-7)
S2 Norizo (S1W, 8-7)
Bill (K1E, 8-7) K1 Hogashi (M3E, 8-7)
Oshirokita (M5W, 9-6) M1 Unkonoyama (M9E, 10-5)
Holleshoryu (M2E, KOSHO) 2 Jakusotsu (M1E, 7-8)
Susanoo (M2W, 7-8) 3 Konosato (M5E, 8-7)
Kintamayama (M6W, 8-7) 4 Terarno (M7W, 8-7)
chishafuwaku (K1W, 5-10) 5 Pitinosato (M10W, 9-6)
Sakura (M6E, KOSHO) 6 Gaijingai (M3W, 6-9)
toonoryu (M4E, 6-9) 7 andonishiki (M4W, 6-9)
Golynohana (M8E, KOSHO) 8 Yangnomazuma (M9W, 8-7)
Kitakachiyama (M12W, 9-6) 9 Chocshoporyu (M8W, 7-8)
Hokuyutaka (M10E, KOSHO) 10 Kaiowaka (M12E, 8-7)
Kotononami (M14W, 9-6) 11 Frinkanohana (M13W, 8-7)
ScreechingOwl (M7E, 5-10) 12 tokugawa (M18E, 10-5)
Itachi (M16W, 9-6) 13 tainosen (J3E, 11-4)
Hana-ichi (M11E, 6-9) 14 Oskanohana (J2W, 10-5)
Kasamatsuri (M14E, 7-8) 15 Achiyama (J1E, 8-7)
Nantonoyama (M13E, 6-9) 16 Andoreasu (M15W, 7-8)
Balon (M11W, 5-10) 17 Fujisan (M17W, KOSHO)
kuroimori (J3W, 9-6) 18

iwakoko (J2E, 8-7) J1 Anjoboshi (J1W, KOSHO)
KonyaGaYamada (J8W, 11-4) 2 Akishiki (M16E, 6-9)
Ruziklao (J7E, 9-6) 3 Yamashade (J6W, 8-7)
Metzinowaka (M15E, 4-11) 4 Athenayama (J9W, 9-6)
Gansekiiwa (J5E, KOSHO) 5 Roundeye (M18W, 5-10)
Netsuzakura (J4E, 7-8) 6 Gawasukotto (J10E, 9-6)
Getayukata (J6E, 7-8) 7 GONZABUROW (J4W, 6-9)
Beeftank (J10W, 8-7) 8 KamiBaka (J7W, 7-8)
Itachiyama (J9E, KOSHO) 9 Takanorappa (J12W, 8-7)
Chijanofuji (J5W, 5-10) 10 Boltbanana (ms2E, 9-6)
Wamahada (ms2W, 9-6) 11 Sherlockiama (ms5W, 10-5)
Flohru (ms1E, 8-7)  12 shimodahito (ms8W, 11-4)
Oyama (J8E, 5-10) 13 Saruyama (M17E, 0-0-15)
Unagiyutaka (J11E, 6-9) 14 Mariohana (J13W, 7-8)

hofudaryu (ms4W, 9-6) ms1 BariiHachiBenson (ms1W, KOSHO)
Kyodaitimu (J12E, 6-9) 2 Kashunowaka (ms9W, 10-5)  
Rikishimiezi (ms3E, KOSHO) 3 Kitahotaru (ms6W, 9-6)
Kofujinokami (ms4E, KOSHO) 4 Gusoyama (J11W, 5-10)
Watashi (ms6E, 8-7) 5 Jejima (J14E, 6-9)
Kuramarujo (J14W, 6-9) 6 Bunbukuchagama (ms12W, 10-5)
Kishikaisei (ms7E, KOSHO) 7 aoyume (ms10E, 9-6)
Basoyama (J13E, 5-10) 8 Tsunamiko (ms11W, 9-6)
Heiyu (ms3W, 7-8) 9 Kintsubasa (ms18E, 10-5)
Homuburyuwa (ms9E, 7-8) 10 Oortael (ms7W, 6-9)
Chelseayama (ms8E, 6-9) 11 Baku (ms14E, 8-7)
VESHANA (ms11E, 7-8) 12 Danjinoumi (ms5E, 4-11)
Bunijiman (ms17W, 8-7) 13 Andrasoyama (ms10W, 6-9) 
Kirinoumi (ms21E, 9-6) 14 Vincentohana (ms21W, 8-7)
Clemoshoryu (ms22E, 8-7) 15 Fujiko (ms14W, 7-8) 
Rowitoro (ms15E, 7-8) 16 Kitanoyama (ms16W, KOSHO)
Nekonishiki (ms17E, KOSHO) 17 Aminoumi (ms13W, 6-9)
Hironoumi (ms16E, 7-8) 18 Furanohana (ms12E, 5-10)
Tochiyatsu (ms19E, KOSHO) 19 Marushiki (ms13E, 5-10)
Akokoneko (ms15W, 5-10) 20 Tetsuba (ms20E, 7-8)
Kaba (ms18W, 6-9) 21 Maeden (ms19W, 4-11)

Banzuke-gai
Kajiyanosho (ms20W, 0-0-15)

[Kintamayama 44,646]

On 18/07/2022 at 21:14, Jejima said:

Regarding Ichimons, and who to join....

If you speak French, join the Info-Sumo Ichimon
If you speak German, Doitsugo is for you
If you speak Japanese, of have an affinity with Japan, consider joining Sakura
If you come from New England (USA), or are female (from anywhere), consider joining MassaSHEgawa
If you feel strongly attached to this Sumo Forum, consider joining Sumo Forum
If you feel strongly attached to a defunct English language Sumo Forum, maybe SumoTalk could be for you
If you are against automatically pressing the 'henka' button, and/or are related to me, come from the UK, a Commonwealth country (Canada, Australia, New Zealand....), Netherlands, Scandinavia, or if you are called Jakusotsu - then maybe the 'North Pole' ichimon is your natural home.

Hope that helps.

Jejima (rijicho of Bench Sumo)

 

Sumo forum Ichimon is in dire need of new members. Please join us. I see a few excellent newish players who are Ichimon-less and frequent the forum. Please join.

[Athenayama 999]

On 18/07/2022 at 20:14, Jejima said:

Regarding Ichimons, and who to join....

If you speak Japanese, of have an affinity with Japan, consider joining Sakura

 

I don't speak Japanese! Am I in the wrong place?

[Jakusotsu 5,874]

Just now, Athenayama said:

I don't speak Japanese! Am I in the wrong place?

Totally. You always belonged to the North Pole.

[Athenayama 999]

28 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

Totally. You always belonged to the North Pole.

I can stand cold !

[Bunbukuchagama 701]

9 hours ago, Athenayama said:

I don't speak Japanese! Am I in the wrong place?

It is strange to be a sumo fan and not have an affinity with Japan.

[Athenayama 999]

3 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

It is strange to be a sumo fan and not have an affinity with Japan.

At some point you'll find out when I'm joking and when I'm not.

[Bunbukuchagama 701]

36 minutes ago, Athenayama said:

At some point you'll find out when I'm joking and when I'm not.

I might not live long enough. 

[Nantonoyama 248]

On 07/08/2023 at 09:51, Kintamayama said:

Sumo forum Ichimon is in dire need of new members. Please join us. I see a few excellent newish players who are Ichimon-less and frequent the forum. Please join.

If that is an invitation to apply, I'd like to

[Kintamayama 44,646]

4 hours ago, Nantonoyama said:

If that is an invitation to apply, I'd like to

Yes, yes, yes!!

[Jejima 1,346]

7 hours ago, Nantonoyama said:

If that is an invitation to apply, I'd like to

@Takanorappa - have you seen this?

 

[Sakura 1,480]

On 08/08/2023 at 13:24, Jejima said:

@Takanorappa - have you seen this?

 

I don't think Takanorappa checks this very often. An email would probably have to do.

[Athenayama 999]

(Many thanks to Sir Takanorappa's stats. I wouldn't have been able to do any of this without them!)

Hi all,

First of all, of course the MCP is an individual competition but as I was curious I wished to go a little further.

After the last MCP results in Nagoya 23 and the first 3 ranks won by Sakura Ichimon, if you remember I was curious to know if it was a first or if it happened before.
I looked for it as it seemed there were no such stats available and here is what I found. If such stats already exist I apologize and I also apologize for all the time I spent preparing all below !

So, I found out that one other Ichimon achieved the same feat. Doitsugo placed 3 of its members in the first 3 ranks in Hatsu 06. Congrats !

And Info-Sumo was very close to a "Grand Slam" (to have all top 5) just missing the second rank in Hatsu 07.

You can find all the TOP 5 in the table here below since the MCP standings started.

Edit. Also please note :

Gernobono / Tokugawa (same player, respective figures added)
Ganzohnesushi / Yamashade (same player, respective figures added)

If there are other cases as above I'm not aware of please let me know to check everythig again. Thanks.

Spoiler

			1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th
	Hatsu 05		Aderechelseamaru	misisko	Sanjiazuma	Gernobono	Kintamayama
	Haru 05		Doitsuyama	dimitri	Charliki	Maeden	Hokanobenzo
	Natsu 05		Kevinotoki	zenjimoto	Tajoha	Tenkuukaikatsu	Iwanoshima
	Nagoya 05		Gernobono	Konosato	Pastanoyama	Toschima	Norizo
	Aki 05		Mushi	Norizo	Takashoryu	Tetsuonoumi	Haraiboshi
	Kyushu 05		Aderechelseamaru	Ketsukai	Tenkuukaikatsu	Kazetoshi	Akokoneko
	Hatsu 06		Toljokinodo	Chiyozakura (tied 2nd)	Sashimaru (tied 2nd)	zenjimoto	Goshizosan
	Haru 06		Kotononami	Vincentohana	Iwanoshima	Chiyozakura	Rowitoro
	Natsu 06		Celeborn	Bakatoba	Taka	Marionoumi	Heruwejima
	Nagoya 06		Azumaryu	Heruwejima	Kitano	Anjoboshi (tied 4th)	dimitri (tied 4th)
	Aki 06		Charliki	Randomitsuki	Takamueda	Golynohana	tokugawa
	Kyushu 06		Fuseigou	Norizo	Zeokage	Marioschima	Chabonowaka
	Hatsu 07		Kotononami	Heikotoriki	Marimo	Konosato	Asafan
	Haru 07		iwakoko	Vincentohana	Charliki	Roundeye	Yangnomazuma
	Natsu 07		Ulsimitsuki	Taniazuma	Norizo	Golynohana	Hinerikeri
	Nagoya 07		Rikishimiezi	Oshirokita	Shimoryu	Kuramajuro	Damimonay
	Aki 07		Sashimaru	Ketsukai	toonoryu	Doitsuyama	Susanoo / tokugawa
	Kyushu 07		Taka	Susanoo	Gaijingai	dimitri	Chimatayama
	Hatsu 08		Shimoryu	Randomitsuki	tainosen	Tsunamiko	Gusoyama
	Haru 08		Takatamale	Maguroyama	Konosato	Heikotoriki	Doitsuyama
	Natsu 08		Hironoumi	Marquisozan	Terarno	iwakoko	Akishiki
	Nagoya 08		Mysko	Ursumaru	Nabi	Frinkanohana	Chochononami
	Aki 08		Roundeye	Ganzohnesushi	Kungliazuma	Watashi	Amatzkaze
	Kyushu 08		Sebunshu	zenjimoto	nomadwolf	Meyeryu	Golynohana
	Hatsu 09		Bogdanyama	Frenchuzan	Flohru	Mysko	Rubensan
	Haru 09		Onimuso	Bunijiman	Canapayama	Tsunamiko	Gusoyama
	Natsu 09		Ulsimitsuki	Fuguyanagi	Charliki	Meyeryu	Ganzohnesushi
	Nagoya 09		iwakoko	Kaiomitsuki	Randomitsuki	Kintamayama	Frinkanohana
	Aki 09		Hakubayama	dimitri	Sebunshu	Randomitsuki	Kotononami
	Kyushu 09		Mariohana	Damimonay	Rubensan	toonoryu	Tamanaogijima
	Hatsu 10		Randomitsuki	Flohru	Sekihiryu	Terarno	Itachiyama
	Haru 10		Sokkenaiyama	Mariohana	Boltbutthamma	Rowitoro	Randomitsuki
	Natsu 10		shimodahito	Gohansazae	Ketsukai	Kaiowaka	Itachiyama
	Nagoya 10		Doitsuyama	Randomitsuki	Bill	Kintamayama	Meyeryu
	Aki 10		Oskanohana	Saruwatari	Anjoboshi	Konosato	Fujiyama
	Kyushu 10		tokugawa	Tosahayate	Meyeryu	Gaijingai	Sokkenaiyama
	Hatsu 11		Saruwatari	Itachi	Crall	Meyeryu	Heikotoriki
	Haru 11
	Natsu 11
	Nagoya 11		Hana-ichi	Tosahayate	Norizo	Mysko	Taka
	Aki 11		Oskanohana	tainosen	Susanoo	Terarno	Chocshoporyu
	Kyushu 11		Doitsuyama	Saruyama	Fuguyanagi	Susanoo	Taka
	Hatsu 12		Itachiyama	Slartibartfass	Ekigozan	Susanoo	Taka
	Haru 12		Randomitsuki	Fujisan	Jejima	Oshirokita	Takapinkuyama
	Natsu 12		Sebunshu	tokugawa	Gibuten	Bill	Ganzohnesushi
	Nagoya 12		Kaiomitsuki	Flohru	Rowitoro	Pitinosato	ScreechingOwl
	Aki 12		nomadwolf	Pitinosato	Itachiyama	Fujiyama	ScreechingOwl
	Kyushu 12		Bunijiman	Itachiyama	Terarno	OYAP	Jejima
	Hatsu 13		Tenshoryu	Roundeye	Kaiowaka	Oskanohana	Terarno
	Haru 13		Zichi	Rubensan	Norizo	Konosato	Tsunamiko
	Natsu 13		Frinkanohana	Yassier	Uoichiba	Gohansazae	Flohru
	Nagoya 13		chishafuwaku	Pitinosato	Randomitsuki	kuroimiri	Fujisan
	Aki 13		Doitsuyama	Kaiomitsuki	Susanoo	Randomitsuki	Achiyama
	Kyushu 13		Rowitoro	Tosahayate	Jejima	Kaiomitsuki	ScreechingOwl
	Hatsu 14		Saruyama	nomadwolf	Randomitsuki	tainosen	Chabonowaka
	Haru 14		Itachiyama	Saruyama	Flohru	Chisaiyama	Haidouzo
	Natsu 14		Gaijingai	Domichi	Damimonay	Oshirokita	Saruyama
	Nagoya 14		Oskanohana	Itachi	Chimatayama	Kaiomitsuki	Randomitsuki
	Aki 14		Itachi	chishafuwaku	Roundeye	Flohru (tied 4th)	Rupatengu (Tied 4th)
	Kyushu 14		Yamashade	Kitakachiyama	Metzinowaka	Mmikasazuma	ScreechingOwl
	Hatsu 15		toonoryu	Gurowake	Itachiyama	Flohru	Terarno
	Haru 15		Rubensan	Roundeye	Rowitoro	Kaiowaka	Chijanofuji
	Natsu 15		chishafuwaku	ScreechingOwl	Bill	Kitakachiyama	Itachi
	Nagoya 15		Bill	Metzinowaka	Ruziklao	Watashi	Kitakachiyama
	Aki 15		Oshirokita	Pandaazuma	Gurowake	Ekigozan	Oskanohana
	Kyushu 15		tokugawa	Taka	andonishiki	Konosato	Saruyama
	Hatsu 16		Haidouzo	Doitsuyama	Pitinosato	Pandaazuma	ScreechingOwl
	Haru 16		Pandaazuma	Konosato	Norizo	Getayutaka	Gurowake
	Natsu 16		ScreechingOwl	Metzinowaka	nomadwolf	Yassier	Furanohana
	Nagoya 16		Boltbutthamma	Susanoo	Gurowake	Terarno	Kaiomitsuki
	Aki 16		Norizo	Flohru	Rubensan	Kintamayama	chishafuwaku
	Kyushu 16		Kintamayama	Hana-ichi	andonishiki	Unkonoyama	Randomitsuki
	Hatsu 17		Hokuyutaka	Sakura	Susanoo	GONZABUROW	Chijanofuji / Taka
	Haru 17		Chisaiyama	Oshirokita	shimodahito	Unkonoyama	chishafuwaku
	Natsu 17		Pitinosato	Gaijingai	Sakura	Yamashade	Damimonay
	Nagoya 17		Hokuyutaka	Roundeye	Konosato	Rubensan	Yassier
	Aki 17		Roundeye	Chisaiyama	Damimonay	Yamashade	Gaijingai / Jakusotsu
	Kyushu 17		Senkoho	mischachimaru	Sebunshu	Kotononami	Taka
	Hatsu 18		Furanohana	Sherlockiama	Wamahada	Metzinowaka	Norizo
	Haru 18		Fujiyama (tied 1st)	Roundeye (tied 1st)	Terarno (tied 3rd)	Sherlockiama (tied 3rd)	Yamashade / Leonishiki
	Natsu 18		Unkonoyama	Holleshoryu	Metzinowaka	Chisaiyama	Mariohana
	Nagoya 18		Chocshoporyu	Terarno	Fujiyama	Flohru	ScreechingOwl
	Aki 18		Hana-ichi	Tenshinhan	McBugger	Anjoboshi	Fujisan
	Kyushu 18		Gurowake	Leonishiki	Rowitoro	Ruziklao	Rubensan
	Hatsu 19		Chisaiyama	Kitakachiyama (tied 2nd)	Norizo (tied 2nd)	Bill	ScreechingOwl
	Haru 19		Boltbutthamma	Golynohana	Chijanofuji	Kitakachiyama	GONZABUROW
	Natsu 19		Sakura	mischachimaru	Bill	Yassier	Terarno
	Nagoya 19		Jejima	Norizo	Flohru (tied 3rd)	Sherlockiama (tied 3rd)	Kishikaisei
	Aki 19		iwakoko	Pandaazuma	Gurowake	Susanoo	chishafuwaku
	Kyushu 19		Terarno	Roundeye	Susanoo	Norizo	Oortael
	Hatsu 20		Chijanofuji	Pandaazuma	Gawasukotto (tied 3rd)	Wamahada (tied 3rd)	Terarno
	Haru 20		Holleshoryu	iwakoko	Itachi	Flohru	Kitakachiyama
	Natsu 20
	Nagoya 20		Kaiowaka	Athenayama	toonoryu	Roundeye	Gaijingai
	Aki 20		Kishikaisei	Norizo	Hironoumi	Hokuyutaka	Joaoiyama
	Kyushu 20		Frinkanohana	Hokuyutaka	Yangnomazuma	chishafuwaku	Fujisan
	Hatsu 21		Damimonay	Oskanohana	Fujiyama (tied 3rd)	Getayutaka (tied 3rd)	Kitahotaru
	Haru 21		Chelseayama	Joaoiyama	Basoyama	Kaiowaka	Athenayama
	Natsu 21		Frinkanohana	Damimonay	Kashunowaka	Kitakachiyama	Pitinosato
	Nagoya 21		Anjoboshi	Itachiyama	Pandaazuma	KonyaGaYamada	Wamahada
	Aki 21		tainosen	andonishiki	Akishiki	Taka	aoyume
	Kyushu 21		Bill	Andoreasu	Mariohana	Oortael	Netsuzakura
	Hatsu 22		Chelseayama	Kaiowaka	Andrasoyama	chishafuwaku	Gawasukotto
	Haru 22		Oskanohana	Kaito	Tameiki	Konosato	Jakusotsu
	Natsu 22		Kyodaitimu	Yangnomazuma	Oskanohana	Flohru	toonoryu
	Nagoya 22		Itachi	Andoreasu	Hokuyutaka	Oortael	Joaoiyama
	Aki 22		Pitinosato	Kotononami	Kitakachiyama	Golynohana	Oshirokita
	Kyushu 22		KonyaGaYamada	Kitahotaru	Flohru	Kamibaka	Balon
	Hatsu 23		Susanoo	kuroimiri	iwakoko	Rowitoro	GONZABUROW
	Haru 23		Kamibaka	ScreechingOwl	Konosato	Beeftank	Sakura
	Natsu 23		Rubensan	Boltbanana	Kashunowaka	Oyama	Bunbukuchagama
	Nagoya 23		Athenayama	Joaoiyama	Bunbukuchagama	Konosato	Kaito
	Aki 23
	Kyushu 23
					WINS
				Mukade	21
				Info-Sumo	13
				Doitsugo	11
				SumoForum	11
				MassaSHegawa	9
				North Pole	8
				Sakura	7
				Unaffiliated	29

 

And just for the fun, you'll find here below a ranking I made with the most points won by players in the MCP. I kept the points that are granted for the ICF.
MCP-1 - earns 25 points 
MCP-2 - earns 20 points
MCP-3 - earns 15 points
MCP-4 - earns 10 points
MCP-5 - earns 5 points

Edit : When 2 players were tied I splitted points in half. For example, 2 players tied first (25 +20)/2 = 22.5 points for each. And so on.....

Spoiler

		Shikona	Points	Bashos
	1	Norizo	212,5	114
	2	Randomitsuki	190	68
	3	Roundeye	187,5	102
	4	Flohru	175	119
	5	Susanoo	157,5	110
	6	Oskanohana	150	58
	7	Konosato	145	110
	8	Terarno	137,5	110
	9	Doitsuyama	135	103
	10	Itachiyama	130	86
	11	Rubensan	120	108
	12	iwakoko	120	112
	13	Pitinosato	120	115
	14	Bill	115	100
	15	Gernobono	112,5	127
	16	Pandaazuma	110	88
	17	Itachi	110	96
	18	chishafuwaku	105	59
	19	Damimonay	105	86
	20	ScreechingOwl	100	80
	21	Taka	97,5	102
	22	Kitakachiyama	97,5	116
	23	Gurowake	95	38
	24	Hokuyutaka	95	75
	25	Rowitoro	95	112
	26	Chisaiyama	90	68
	27	Kaiomitsuki	90	72
	28	Kaiowaka	90	101
	29	Frinkanohana	90	109
	30	Oshirokita	90	139
	31	Kotononami	85	106
	32	Boltbutthamma	85	115
	33	Ganzohnesushi	82,5	100
	34	Gaijingai	82,5	127
	35	Sebunshu	80	66
	36	Metzinowaka	80	112
	37	nomadwolf	75	48
	38	Saruyama	75	72
	39	Fujiyama	70,5	73
	40	Charliki	70	41
	41	Hana-ichi	70	79
	42	tainosen	70	84
	43	toonoryu	70	101
	44	Sakura	65	32
	45	Mariohana	65	61
	46	Tosahayate	60	64
	47	Kintamayama	60	140
	48	dimitri	57,5	46
	49	Anjoboshi	57,5	91
	50	Golynohana	55	57
	51	Sherlockiama	55	125
	52	Jejima	55	142
	53	Chijanofuji	52,5	139
	54	Athenayama	50	22
	54	Chelseayama	50	22
	56	Joaoiyama	50	23
	56	Aderechelseamaru	50	23
	58	Meyeryu	50	38
	59	Ulsimitsuki	50	43
	60	zenjimoto	50	74
	61	andonishiki	50	79
	62	Saruwatari	45	23
	63	Mysko	45	34
	64	Unkonoyama	45	45
	65	Yassier	45	62
	66	Bunijiman	45	81
	67	Hironoumi	45	86
	68	Holleshoryu	45	91
	69	Sashimaru	42,5	40
	70	Andoreasu	40	35
	71	Shimoryu	40	39
	71	Vincentohana	40	39
	73	Ketsukai	40	44
	74	Yangnomazuma	40	64
	75	mischachimaru	40	80
	76	shimodahito	40	113
	77	Wamahada	37,5	70
	78	KonyaGaYamada	35	14
	79	Kamibaka	35	28
	80	Fuguyanagi	35	38
	81	Heikotoriki	35	54
	82	Fujisan	35	118
	83	Sokkenaiyama	30	20
	84	Kishikaisei	30	23
	85	Kashunowaka	30	34
	86	Gohansazae	30	40
	87	Haidouzo	30	64
	88	kuroimiri	30	73
	89	Furanohana	30	81
	90	Chocshoporyu	30	84
	91	Chiyozakura	27,5	38
	92	Leonishiki	27,5	98
	93	Getayutaka	27,5	107
	94	Zichi	25
	95	Onimuso	25	2
	96	Tenshoryu	25	8
	97	Kevinotoki	25	9
	98	Celeborn	25	10
	99	Azumaryu	25	14
	100	Bogdanyama	25	16
	101	Mushi	25	18
	102	Hakubayama	25	19
	102	Senkoho	25	19
	104	Kaito	25	21
	105	Oortael	25	23
	106	Toljokinodo	25	25
	107	Kitahotaru	25	38
	108	Fuseigou	25	42
	109	Heruwejima	25	51
	110	Takatamale	25	56
	110	Tenkuukaikatsu	25	56
	112	Kyodaitimu	25	60
	113	Rikishimiezi	25	73
	114	Ekigozan	25	82
	115	Ruziklao	25	87
	116	Tsunamiko	25	101
	117	Gawasukotto	22,5	74
	118	Bunbukuchagama	20	2
	119	Slartibartfass	20	12
	120	Iwanoshima	20	18
	120	Domichi	20	18
	122	Marquisozan	20	19
	123	Bakatoba	20	21
	124	Ursumaru	20	28
	125	Tenshinhan	20	29
	126	misisko	20	33
	127	Frenchuzan	20	36
	128	Taniazuma	20	38
	129	Akishiki	20	52
	130	Chimatayama	20	56
	131	Maguroyama	20	61
	132	GONZABUROW	20	107
	133	Watashi	20	110
	134	Tajoha	15	7
	135	Sanjiazuma	15	9
	136	Crall	15	14
	137	Andrasoyama	15	15
	137	Takashoryu	15	15
	139	Kungliazuma	15	17
	140	Uoichiba	15	19
	141	Nabi	15	20
	141	Canapayama	15	20
	143	Kitano	15	21
	143	Gibuten	15	21
	143	McBugger	15	21
	146	Zeokage	15	28
	147	Takamueda	15	29
	148	Marimo	15	38
	149	Tameiki	15	40
	150	Ketsukai	15	44
	151	Pastanoyama	15	51
	152	Sekihiryu	15	58
	153	Basoyama	15	59
	154	Jakusotsu	12,5	124
	155	Beeftank	10	7
	155	OYAP	10	7
	157	Oyama	10	21
	158	Marionoumi	10	25
	159	Toschima	10	29
	160	Tetsuonoumi	10	34
	161	Kazetoshi	10	35
	162	Marioschima	10	39
	163	Kuramajuro	10	63
	164	Chabonowaka	10	72
	165	Gusoyama	10	74
	166	Maeden	10	88
	167	Mmikasazuma	10	94
	168	Rupatengu	7,5	6
	169	Amatzkaze	5	5
	170	Asafan	5	11
	171	Balon	5	12
	172	Netsuzakura	5	13
	173	Takapinkuyama	5	19
	174	aoyume	5	28
	175	Hinerikeri	5	30
	176	Haraiboshi	5	32
	177	Hokanobenzo	5	35
	178	Goshizosan	5	38
	179	Chochononami	5	45
	180	Tamanaogijima	5	51
	181	Achiyama	5	70
	182	Akokoneko	5	119

Also for the fun, I made another ranking with the ratio "points won/ basho played"  . At least 12 bashos (2 years) of participation and at least 1.00 ratio to be on the list. 

Spoiler

		Shikona	Points	Bashos		Ratio
	1	Randomitsuki	190	68		2,79
	2	Oskanohana	150	58		2,59
	3	Gurowake	95	38		2,50
	3	KonyaGaYamada	35	14		2,50
	5	Athenayama	50	22		2,27
	5	Chelseayama	50	22		2,27
	7	Joaoiyama	50	23		2,17
	7	Aderechelseamaru	50	23		2,17
	9	Sakura	65	32		2,03
	10	Saruwatari	45	23		1,96
	11	Norizo	212,5	114		1,86
	12	Roundeye	187,5	102		1,84
	13	Azumaryu	25	14		1,79
	14	chishafuwaku	105	59		1,78
	15	Charliki	70	41		1,71
	16	Slartibartfass	20	12		1,67
	17	nomadwolf	75	48		1,56
	17	Bogdanyama	25	16		1,56
	19	Itachiyama	130	86		1,51
	20	Sokkenaiyama	30	20		1,50
	21	Flohru	175	119		1,47
	22	Susanoo	157,5	110		1,43
	23	Mushi	25	18		1,39
	24	Hakubayama	25	19		1,32
	24	Senkoho	25	19		1,32
	24	Konosato	145	110		1,32
	24	Chisaiyama	90	68		1,32
	24	Meyeryu	50	38		1,32
	24	Mysko	45	34		1,32
	30	Doitsuyama	135	103		1,31
	31	Kishikaisei	30	23		1,30
	32	Hokuyutaka	95	75		1,27
	33	Terarno	137,5	110		1,25
	33	Pandaazuma	110	88		1,25
	33	ScreechingOwl	100	80		1,25
	33	Kaiomitsuki	90	72		1,25
	33	dimitri	57,5	46		1,25
	33	Kamibaka	35	28		1,25
	39	Damimonay	105	86		1,22
	40	Sebunshu	80	66		1,21
	41	Kaito	25	21		1,19
	42	Ulsimitsuki	50	43		1,16
	43	Bill	115	100		1,15
	43	Itachi	110	96		1,15
	45	Andoreasu	40	35		1,14
	46	Rubensan	120	108		1,11
	46	Iwanoshima	20	18		1,11
	46	Domichi	20	18		1,11
	49	Oortael	25	23		1,09
	50	iwakoko	120	112		1,07
	50	Mariohana	65	61		1,07
	50	Crall	15	14		1,07
	53	Sashimaru	42,5	40		1,06
	54	Marquisozan	20	19		1,05
	55	Pitinosato	120	115		1,04
	55	Saruyama	75	72		1,04
	57	Shimoryu	40	39		1,03
	57	Vincentohana	40	39		1,03
	59	Unkonoyama	45	45		1,00
	59	Toljokinodo	25	25		1,00
	59	Andrasoyama	15	15		1,00
	59	Takashoryu	15	15		1,00

And various other useless statistics (or not) :

Spoiler

		Wins
	Doitsuyama	4
	Oskanohana	4
	Gernobono	3
	Frinkanohana	3
	iwakoko	3
	Aderechelseamaru	2
	Norizo	2
	Kotononami	2
	Randomitsuki	2
	Roundeye	2
	Ulsimitsuki	2
	Sebunshu	2
	Rubensan	2
	Itachiyama	2
	Boltbutthamma	2
	Bill	2
	Itachi	2
	Hana-ichi	2
	Pitinosato	2
	chishafuwaku	2
	Hokuyutaka	2
	Chelseayama	2
	Chisaiyama	2
	Kevinotoki	1
	Mushi	1
	Toljokinodo	1
	Sashimaru	1
	Rowitoro	1
	Celeborn	1
	Taka	1
	Azumaryu	1
	Anjoboshi	1
	Charliki	1
	Fuseigou	1
	Rikishimiezi	1
	Oshirokita	1
	Shimoryu	1
	Damimonay	1
	toonoryu	1
	Susanoo	1
	Gaijingai	1
	tainosen	1
	Takatamale	1
	Hironoumi	1
	Terarno	1
	Mysko	1
	Ganzohnesushi	1
	nomadwolf	1
	Bogdanyama	1
	Onimuso	1
	Bunijiman	1
	Kaiomitsuki	1
	Kintamayama	1
	Hakubayama	1
	Mariohana	1
	Sokkenaiyama	1
	shimodahito	1
	Kaiowaka	1
	Saruwatari	1
	Chocshoporyu	1
	Saruyama	1
	Jejima	1
	ScreechingOwl	1
	Tenshoryu	1
	Zichi	1
	Haidouzo	1
	Gurowake	1
	Chijanofuji	1
	Pandaazuma	1
	Furanohana	1
	Unkonoyama	1
	Sakura	1
	Senkoho	1
	Holleshoryu	1
	Kishikaisei	1
	Athenayama	1
	KonyaGaYamada	1
	Kyodaitimu	1
	Kamibaka	1

Spoiler

Most times 2nd :
- Roundeye 4
- Norizo 3
- Randomitsuki 3
- Flohru 3
- Tosahayate 3

Most times 3rd :
- Norizo 4
- Susanoo 4

Most times 4th :
- Konosato 6 (!)

 Most times 5th :
- ScreechingOwl 7 (!)
- Terarno 5
- Taka 4

 

If you spotted any mistakes, please let me know so I can correct them. Thanks

Edited August 20, 2023 by Athenayama

[Sumo Spiffy 544]

I think our Bunbun (Bunbukuchagama) should have twenty points, right? A 5th and a 3rd?

Salute for the data drag, though. I think everyone who's done one of these deep dives somewhere especially respects the effort.

Edited August 11, 2023 by Sumo Spiffy

[Athenayama 999]

13 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

I think our Bunbun (Bunbukuchagama) should have twenty points, right? A 5th and a 3rd?

 

Damn, did I "steal" him 5 points?? I'll correct i asap. Thanks !

Edited August 11, 2023 by Athenayama

[Bunbukuchagama 701]

4 hours ago, Athenayama said:

At least 12 bashos (2 years) of participation

Are you implying my 10.0 ratio won't hold up? 

[Takanorappa 88]

On 08/08/2023 at 14:24, Jejima said:

@Takanorappa - have you seen this?

 

I have now.  Welcome aboard.

[Athenayama 999]

1 hour ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Are you implying my 10.0 ratio won't hold up? 

What I can say is that in 10 bashos you'll probably be very high in that table.

[Athenayama 999]

2 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Are you implying my 10.0 ratio won't hold up? 

And what about that one? 

	Shikona	Points	Bashos		Ratio
	Onimuso	25	2		12,50

[Bunbukuchagama 701]

2 minutes ago, Athenayama said:

And what about that one? 

	Shikona	Points	Bashos		Ratio
	Onimuso	25	2		12,50

My hat off to Onimuso (what happened to them, I wonder?).

[Bunbukuchagama 701]

1 hour ago, Athenayama said:

What I can say is that in 10 bashos you'll probably be very high in that table.

In fact, if you were to add 10 zero-point bashos to my record,  I would still be in the top 20.