Bench Sumo news

[Athenayama 1,197]

5 minutes ago, Sakura said:

Is anyone else able to get the head-to-head page on the Bench Sumo stats site working?

I can't see it either. It doesn't help you but at least you know it's not your end.

[Takanorappa 97]

2 hours ago, Athenayama said:

I can't see it either. It doesn't help you but at least you know it's not your end.

It’s not you. It’s me.   I found the issue, and am working on a fix should be fixed.

Edited May 8, 2022 by Takanorappa

[Takanorappa 97]

On 04/05/2022 at 05:05, Pitinosato said:

Really cool ! 

But the sort doesn't work !?

Pitinosato

It appears the bottom half of the file is missing (the data stopped at Tokugawa)  I’ll upload a new copy, which should fix things.

Fixed.  Note that the sort is slow.  There is a ton of data.  I’m looking at improving performance, but that’s not a quick fix.

Edited May 8, 2022 by Takanorappa

[Sakura 1,524]

18 hours ago, Takanorappa said:

It’s not you. It’s me.   I found the issue, and am working on a fix should be fixed.

I must be missing something. The link brings me to something that just displays the ichimon for each player and nothing else.

[Pitinosato 126]

19 hours ago, Takanorappa said:

It appears the bottom half of the file is missing (the data stopped at Tokugawa)  I’ll upload a new copy, which should fix things.

Fixed.  Note that the sort is slow.  There is a ton of data.  I’m looking at improving performance, but that’s not a quick fix.

Yes, now everything works 

[Jejima 1,498]

Hi all!

 

I am very pleased to announce that the banzuke making committee has decided to promote pandaazuma to the rank of Ozeki.

 

We look forward to hearing his promotion acceptance speech.

 

Jejima (BS rijicho)

[Jejima 1,498]

Hi all,

Here is the new banzuke for July 2022 put together by Flohru, Sakura and Jejima, with Kintamayama, Ekigozan, Asashosakari and Kaiomitsuki observing.

It was one of the more straight forward ones, to be honest.

Here it is....

Jejima

Taka (Y1E, 9-6)              Y1  
Norizo (O1E, 9-6)             O1   pandaazuma (S1E, 9-6)
Kaiowaka (K1E, 11-4)          S1   toonoryu (K1W, 10-5)
                                           S2   Bill (O1W, 7-8)
Hana-ichi (M4W, 10-5)         K1   chishafuwaku (M1E, 8-7)

Pitinosato (S1W, 7-8)         M1   Susanoo (M6W, 10-5)
Terarno (M9E, 11-4)           M2   Holleshoryu (M2W, KOSHO)
Kintamayama (M4E, 8-7)        M3   ScreechingOwl (M2E, 7-8)
Rubensan (M3W, 7-8)           M4   andonishiki (M1W, 6-9)
Yangnomazuma (M14W, 12-3)     M5   Joaoiyama (M7E, 8-7)
tainosen (M6E, KOSHO)         M6   Konosato (S2W, 4-11)
Gaijingai (M11W, 9-6)           M7   Oshirokita (M3E, 5-10)
Oskanohana (J1E, 12-3)        M8   Gawasukotto (M5W, 6-9)
kuroimori (M13E, 8-7)         M9   Metzinowaka (M5E, 5-10) 
Sakura (M9W, 7-8)                M10  Frinkanohana (M10W, KOSHO)
Kaito (M7W, 6-9)                   M11  Hokuyutaka (M10E, 7-8)
Nantonoyama (M12E, KOSHO)     M12  Chijanofuji (M8W, 6-9)
Jakusotsu (M15E, 8-7)             M13  Ruziklao (M16W, 8-7)
Unkonoyama (M11E, 6-9)        M14  Oyama (J3W, 10-5)
Kotononami (M8E, 4-11)        M15  Tameiki (M15W, KOSHO)
Saruyama (M16E, KOSHO)        M16  Hogashi (J4W, 10-5)
Yamashade (M14E, 6-9)         M17  Achiyama (M12W, 5-10)
 

Takanorappa (M17E, 7-8)        J1  Andoreasu (J2W, 8-7)  
Kitakachiyama (M13W, 5-10)    J2   Chocshoporyu (J5E, 8-7)
Golynohana (J3E, KOSHO)       J3   Itachiyama (M17W, 6-9)
Kasamatsuri (J7E, 8-7)        J4   GONZABUROW (J10E, 9-6)
Chelseayama (J4E, 7-8)        J5   Akishiki (J8E, 8-7)
Itachi (J5W, 7-8)             J6   tokugawa (J1W, 5-10)
Kitahotaru (J2E, 5-10)         J7   Fujisan (J10W, 9-6)  
Anjoboshi (J6W, 7-8)          J8   Sherlockiama (J11W, 9-6)
Jejima (J6E, 6-9)             J9   Getayukata (J9W, KOSHO)
Wamahada (J8W, 7-8)           J10  Watashi (J7W, 6-9)
Kyodaitimu (ms2W, 10-5)       J11  Netsuzakura (ms2E, 9-6)
Kashunowaka (ms4W, 10-5)      J12  aoyume (J12W, KOSHO)
Roundeye (J13E, KOSHO)        J13  Oortael (J12E, 7-8)
Tsunamiko (ms3E, 9-6)         J14  iwakoko (ms3W, 9-6)

Danjinoumi (J14E, 7-8)        ms1  Basoyama (ms1W, KOSHO)
Mmikasazuma (J11E, 5-10)      ms2  Flohru (ms1E, 7-8)
KamiBaka (J14W, 6-9)          ms3  Gusoyama (ms8E, 9-6)
Andrasoyama (ms5W, 8-7)       ms4  KonyaGaYamada (ms6E, 8-7)
Kuramarujo (ms9E, 9-6)       ms5  Balon (ms13E, 10-5)
Heiyu (ms5E, 7-8)                  ms6  Akokoneko (ms11W, 9-6)
VESHANA (ms18W, 11-4)         ms7  Gansekiiwa (ms6W, 7-8)
Athenayama (ms7W, 7-8)        ms8  Mariohana (ms17E, 9-6)
Furanohana (ms22E, 10-5)      ms9  Rikishimiezi (ms9W, KOSHO)
Kishikaisei (ms7E, 6-9)             ms10  Damimonay (J9E, 0-0-15) 
Nekonishiki (ms16E, 8-7)         ms11 Homuburyuwa (ms8W, 6-9) 
kamogawa (ms18E, 8-7)         ms12 Kintsubasa (ms19W, 8-7)
Bunijiman (ms12W, 7-8)        ms13 Fujiko (ms10W, 6-9)
Marushiki (ms11E, 6-9)          ms14 fujiyama (J13W, 0-0-15)
Unagiyutaka (ms14E, 7-8)      ms15 Rowitoro (ms12E, 6-9)
Kaba (ms21W, 8-7)                   ms16 Baku (ms15W, 7-8)   
Houmanumi (ms14W, 6-9)      ms17 Maeden (ms16W, 6-9)
Tochiyatsu (ms15E, 5-10)         ms18 Hibarifuji (ms21E, 7-8)
Kofujinokami (ms19E, KOSHO)  ms19 Asapedroryu (ms13W, 3-12)
Tochidoro (ms20E, KOSHO)      ms20 Hironoumi (ms20W, KOSHO)
Aminoumi (ms17W, 4-11)        ms21

Banzuke-gai
Boltbutthamma (ms4E, 0-0-15)
shimodahito (ms10E, 0-0-15)

[Takanorappa 97]

The Nagoya ichimon banzuke and the Natsu BS stats have been updated at the usual spot.

Oh, and I put out the ICF results, too. :-) 

[Gurowake 4,152]

Banzuke-gai from Ms4e is pretty harsh when the division goes down to Ms21.

Edited May 27, 2022 by Gurowake

[Kaiowaka 10]

15 hours ago, Gurowake said:

Banzuke-gai from Ms4e is pretty harsh when the division goes down to Ms21.

i think it's perhaps he miss 3 basho in the row, 3 kyujo =} banzuke-gai and the 4th make intai ^^ 

[Athenayama 1,197]

16 hours ago, Gurowake said:

Banzuke-gai from Ms4e is pretty harsh when the division goes down to Ms21.

Most of all, let's just hope he's ok and Bill Gates didn't get him ! It would be reassuring if he reads us just to write a "hi" so we know he's ok.

[Takanorappa 97]

21 hours ago, Takanorappa said:

The Nagoya ichimon banzuke and the Natsu BS stats have been updated at the usual spot.

I should mention that we had a pretty significant event happen this basho. Check out the Milestones stat

• Chijanofuji became the first BSer to claim 1000 wins.  He did it on day 1, and sits at 1005.
• Kintamayama became the second to reach 1000 on day 13. He’s at 1001 now.
• Jejima should be the next, as he sits at 999.

[Jejima 1,498]

On 28/05/2022 at 00:33, Gurowake said:

Banzuke-gai from Ms4e is pretty harsh when the division goes down to Ms21.

This has been a rule for the Bench banzuke makers for over two decades. Anyone with a 0-0-15 record whilst ranked in the lowest Bench division automatically goes banzuke-gai. 

[Jejima 1,498]

 

Here are the possible milestones for the July basho 2022. 

 

Many thanks to Takanorappa and his Bench Sumo stat page where are the good stuff can be mined -->  <http://www.takanorappa.com/ichimons.htm>

 

There are ten parts (new one added to the usual list!).

 

1. The players at a new career high rank.

 

2. The number of active bashos (multiples of 10) - *if* the player turns up in May.

 

3. Players who have a chance (even if very remote) of going to a new 'multiple of 100' career wins in May.  

 

4. The current top 20 leaderboard for the *all-time* total number of wins.

 

5. The current top 20 leaderboard for the highest win percentage for *active* players.

 

6. The top 20 biggest earners from the March 2022 basho.

 

7. The top 20 biggest earners of all time.

 

8. The top 20 kensho winners for the March 2022 basho.  (Kensho are sponsorships for bouts)

 

9. The top 20 biggest kensho winners of all time.

 

10. The top 20 active players with the highest MCP

 

Enjoy!

 

Jejima (BS rijicho)

 

At a career high rank

 

ms16E Kaba (My youngest son - now 5 years old!)

ms5W Balon

ms5E Kuramarujo (second time in-a-row on this list)

ms4E Andrasoyama (second time)

 

J11W Netsuzakura

 

M16W Hogashi (fourth time, shin-Makunouchi)

M14W Oyama

M12E Nantonoyama (seventh time!)

M5E Yangnomazuma 

M2W Holleshoryu 

 

K1E Hana-ichi (second time, shin-Komusubi)

S1W toonoryu

S1E Kaiowaka

O1W pandaazuma (second time, shin-Ozeki)

O1E Norizo (second time)

Y1E Taka (sixth time)

 

Number of active bashos (If they are active in January 2022.)

.........10

.........20

ms19E Kofujinokami - 30

.........40

.........50

.........60

ms9W Rikishikimiezi - 70

ms6E tainosen - 80

J6E tainosen - 90

J4W GONZABUROW - 100

M15E Kotononami - 100

J2E Kitakachiyama - 110  

.........120
.........130

 

Possible career win milestones this basho: (Current career wins in brackets)

 

100 wins

Nobody here

 

200 wins

Nobody here

 

300 wins

M14E Unkonoyama (292) - second time here

M15W Tameiki (297) - second time

 

400 wins

ms12E kamogawa (385)

ms5E Kuramarujo (392)

M17E Yamashade (396) - second time

 

500 wins

ms3W Gusoyama (497) - 2nd time

M17W Achiyama (497) - 4th time

 

600 wins

M3W ScreechingOwl (586)

ms20W Hironoumi (594) - 3rd time

ms9E Furanohana (596)

J2W Chocshoporyu (599) - 3rd time

 

700 wins

ms10W Damimonay (685) - 4th time

 

800 wins

J14W iwakoko (790)

 

900 wins

Nobody here

 

1000 wins

M7W Oshirokita (996) - 2nd time

J6E Jejima (999) - 3rd time

 

 

Top 20 winningest players of all-time

Taka has overtaken banzuke-gai Doitsuyama. Susanoo has ousted Frinkanohana from the top 20.

 

1. (=) M12W Chijanofuji - 1005

2. (=) M3E Kintamayama - 1001

3. (-1) J9E Jejima - 999

4. (=) M7W Oshirokita - 996

5. (=) M7E Gaijiingai - 963

6. (=) J1E Takanorappa - 948

7. (=) ms2W Flohru - 908

8. (=) J8W Sherlockiama - 883

9. (=) M13E Jakusotsu - 872

10. (=) O1E Norizo - 867

 

11. (=) M1E Pitinosato - 851

12. (-1) J2E Kitakachiyama - 849

13. (=) J7W Fujisan - 827

14. (=) M9W Metzinowaka - 821

15. (=) ms14E Marushiki - 819

16. (+1) Y1E Taka - 812

17. (-1) BG Doitsuyama* - 811

18. (=) M6W Konosato - 806

19. (NE) M1W Susanoo - 805

20. (=) M4E Rubensan - 803

 

*Not currently active

 

Top 20 active players with the highest winning percentage

For the third basho in-a-row, Netsuzakura and Joaoiyama hold onto the top two places.

 

1. (=) J11W Netsuzakura (0.589)

2. (=) M5W Joaoiyama (0.573)

3. (+1) ms4W KonyaGaYamada (0.562) 

=4. (-1) M11E Kaito (0.557)

=4. (+1) ms7W Gansekiiwa (0.557)

6. (+2) M8E Oskanohana (0.556)

7. (-1) J1W Andoreasu (0.552)

8. (-1) ms4E Andrasoyama (0,550)

9. (+6) M14W Oyama (0.548)

10. (-1) ms1E Danjinoumi (0.547)

 

11. (-1) J3E Golynohana (0.544)

12. (=) Y1E Taka (0.541)

13. (=) O1E Norizo (0.5402)

14. (=) O1W pandaazuma (0.5399)

15. (-4) J5E Chelseayama (0.538)

16. (=) M12E Nantonoyama (0.537)

17. (=) ms2W Flohru (0.536)

18. (=) M3W ScreechingOwl (0.535)

19. (=) M16E Saruyama (0.534)

=20. (NE) M16W Hogashi (0.5333333)

=20. (NE) J12E Kashunowaka (0.5333333)

=20. (NE) ms5W Balon (0.5333333)

 

Top 20 biggest earners (with May 2022 ranks) in the May basho 2022 (in Yen)

pandaauma is the highest earner for the second basho-in-a-row! Usually the yusho winner tops this list, but this time Yangnomazuma 'only' manages third place. For those wondering, Juryo yusho winner Oskanohana is at 21, just outside the top 20.

 

1. (=) S1E pandaazuma ¥17,155,700

2. (+2) Y1E Taka ¥16,905,600

3. (NE) M14W Yangnomazuma ¥16,694,700

4. (NE) K1W toonoryu ¥16,521,700

5. (-3) O1E Norizo ¥15,350,100

6. (-1) O1W Bill ¥12,679,100

7. (+3) K1E Kaiowaka ¥12,040,700

8. (-2) S1W Pitinosato ¥11,829,700

9. (+5) M4E Kintamayama ¥10,188,700

10. (-3) M6W Susanoo ¥9,580,700

 

11. (NE) M4W Hana-ichi ¥9,152,700

12. (-9) S2W Konosato ¥8,810,700

13. (-5) M1E chishafuwaku ¥8,719,700

14. (NE) M9E Terarno ¥8,642,700

15. (+2) M3W Rubensan ¥8,578,700

16. (NE) M11W Gaijingai ¥8,303,700

17. (-10) M2E ScreechingOwl ¥8,159,700

18. (+5) M1W andonishiki ¥7,835,700

19. (-1) M3E Oshirokita ¥7,454,700

20. (NE) M8W Chijanofuji ¥7,409,700

 

Top 20 biggest earners of all time (in Yen)

For the second basho in-a-row, the top 10 stay as they were. And.... there is no movement at all in the top 20!  This *might* be Flohru's last time on top.... for the time being.

 

1. (=) ms1E Flohru  ¥1,196,245,600            

2. (=) M11W Gaijingai  ¥1,167,299,500  

3. (=) M4E Kintamayama  ¥1,106,839,090

4. (=) M17W Itachiyama  ¥1,049,211,780

5. (=) BG Doitsuyama*  ¥1,012,670,880

6. (=) O1E Norizo  ¥1,002,855,970

7. (=) M8W Chijanofuji  ¥918,719,150

8. (=) S1W Pitinosato  ¥898,700,900

9. (=) BG Leonishiki*  ¥862,858,040

10. (=) BG Randomitsuki*  ¥850,841,310

 

11. (=) S2W Konosato  ¥843,507,690

12. (=) M5E Metzinowaka  ¥828,132,220

13. (=) M6W Susanoo  ¥801,470,180

14. (=) BG Rannohana*  ¥783,953,660

15. (=) M3E Oshirokita  ¥753,791,950

16. (=) J6E Jejima  ¥741,053,040

17. (=) J9E Damimonay  ¥716,193,180

18. (=) M10W Frinkanohana   ¥715,920,230

19. (=) M3W Rubensan  ¥681,026,760

20. (=) J5W Itachi  ¥675,190,180

 

*Not currently active.

 

Top 20 kensho winners (with May 2022 ranks) in May 2022

The Yokozuna tops the list - as one might expect.

 

1. (+7) Y1E Taka 164

2. (-1) O1W Norizo 146

3. (+3) K1W toonoryu 142

4. (+2) K1e Kaiowaka 139

5. (-3) S1E pandaazuma 137

6. (-2) O1w Bill 113

7. (-2) S1W Pitinosato 107

8. (+10) M4W Hana-ichi 99

9. (+3) M4E Kintamayama 91

10. (-1) M1E chishafuwaku 88

 

11. (+8) M6W Susanoo 87

12. (NE) M9E Terarno 81

=13. (-3) M1W andonishiki 76

=13. (-2) M2E ScreechingOwl 76

15. (=) M3W Rubensan 73

16. (NE) M7E Joaoiyama 60

17. (NE) M14W Yangnomazuma 57

18. (NE) S2W Konosato 54

19. (-3) M3E Oshirokita 53

20. (NE) M11W Gaijingai 52

 

Top 20 kensho winners of all time

Gaijingai is the new leader! Norizo has overtaken banzuke-gai Doitsuyama. This *might* be the last time that Ekigozan appears on this list....

 

1. (+1) M7E Gaijingai                9281

2. (-1) ms2W Flohru                    9261

3. (+1) O1E Norizo                  8284

4. (-1) BG Doitsuyama*            8145

5. (=) M3E Kintamayama        8019

6. (=) J3W Itachiyama            7261

7. (=) M1E Pitinosato              7179

8. (=)  BG Randomitsuki*        6973

9. (=) M6W Konosato               6563

10. (=) M12W Chijanofuji           6534

 

11. (=) BG Leonishiki*              6485

12. (=) BG Rannohana*            6440

13. (=) M9W Metzinowaka       6109

14. (=) M1W Susanoo              6073

15. (=) J6E Itachi                    5290

16. (=) ms10W Damimonay         5259

17. (=) M4E Rubensan           5098

18. (=) Y1E Taka                       5085

19. (=) M7W Oshirokita            4852

20. (=) BG Ekigozan*               4779

 

*Not currently active

 

Top 20 active players with the highest average MCP
Relative newbie Balon, and long time veteran Kintamayama break into the top 20! Golynohana remains the most competitive player of all time - yet is ranked in Juryo!

1. (=) J3E Golynohana 8.59
2. (+1) M8E Oskanohana 8.54
3. (-1) J11W Netsuzakura 8.53
4. (=) ms2W Flohru 8.48
5. (=) O1E Norizo 8.44
6. (=) M10E Sakura 8.38
7. (=) Y1E Taka 8.36
8. (=) M7E Gaijingai 8.34
9. (=) M6W Konosato 8.30
10. (+2) J1W Andoreasu 8.29

11. (+1) S1E pandaazuma 8.27
=12. (+3) M3W ScreechingOwl 8.22
=12. (-2) M7W Kaito 8.22
=12. (+2) J3W Itachiyama 8.22
=15. (+3) S1W Pitinosato 8.20
=15. (NE) ms5W Balon 8.20
17. (=) M17E Yamashade 8.19
18. (-3) ms7W Gansekiiwa 8.17
19. (+1) M4E Rubensan 8.16
20. (NE) M3E Kintamayama 8.15  

Get those milestones!

 

Jejima (BS rijicho)  

Edited July 6, 2022 by Jejima

[Sumo Spiffy 667]

This is my first time doing Bench Sumo... what are the rules? The link is down, and if I google it, those rules clearly don't apply to what I'm seeing on the entry form.

Edit: in case it really is as simple as it looks, is it just, you get the points for the wrestler you put in that slot if they win? Check off the boxes at the bottom if you want, and that's it?

Edited July 8, 2022 by Sumo Spiffy

[Athenayama 1,197]

11 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

This is my first time doing Bench Sumo... what are the rules? The link is down, and if I google it, those rules clearly don't apply to what I'm seeing on the entry form.

Have a look here.

http://takanorappa.com/BenchRules/BasicRules.htm

 

[Sumo Spiffy 667]

3 minutes ago, Athenayama said:

Have a look here.

http://takanorappa.com/BenchRules/BasicRules.htm

 

Oh... we have opponents? Do those get listed anywhere or do we just kinda find out who we faced off with after it's done?

[Athenayama 1,197]

11 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

Oh... we have opponents? Do those get listed anywhere or do we just kinda find out who we faced off with after it's done?

Ask @Jakusotsu to add you to the BS mailing list if you're not already on. You'll receive the torikumi for each day (who you'll face) and many other stuff.
As far as I saw you'll face Boltbanana on Day 1 and Hofudaryu on day 2 (if I'm not mistaken).

Edited July 8, 2022 by Athenayama

[Jakusotsu 6,395]

14 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

Oh... we have opponents? Do those get listed anywhere or do we just kinda find out who we faced off with after it's done?

It's all here:
https://benchsumo.groups.io/

Feel free to join the mailing list.

[Sumo Spiffy 667]

I emailed the subscribe address, so hopefully that's correct. Thanks for the help, both of you.

[Athenayama 1,197]

Sorry @Jakusotsu I thought we needed someone of the "elders" to add the new players, I wasn't aware of that link. It's good to know!

[Jakusotsu 6,395]

It's all good. The less mystery about this once thriving community, the better.

[Jejima 1,498]

Hi all!

 

There is a known bug (gremlin?) in Bench Sumo automation for day 1 entries.

 

For some reason it flicks over to 'day 5' as a default, and there is nothing that can be done to change it 'day 1' - until Jakusotsu kicks some sense into it. 

 

Currently (as I type) it is behaving itself, so I am going to make my day 1 picks right now, and get my children, Kaba and Baku to make theirs too.

 

I strongly suggest that you do the same thing, just in case....

 

Jejima (BS rijicho)

[Sumo Spiffy 667]

Ok, I've now played Bench Sumo for half a basho, and I have... so many questions. I get how the basic game works, scoring points, wins, etc., but it's all the extra stuff I'm trying to comprehend.

1. Technique Prize appears to just be highest scoring/scoring average (I assume these would be the same since we're all playing the same number of days).

2. KCC is the single bracket knockout thing, and it's two days of play for one round of the bracket?

3. The Quality of Sumo award seems to be based on points for what rank of opponents you beat? It looks like you get tons of points for beating sanyaku competition, so how does anyone too low to face them get anywhere?

4. I don't even have a guess as to how the Fighting Spirit Prize works.

5. Same for the Outstanding Performance Prize.

6. The ICF is the team competition, right? How do you join an ichimon for that?

7. Is the Oyakata prize connected to the ichimons?

Uh... I think that's it. For now, anyway. Thanks in advance for any answers.

Edited July 16, 2022 by Sumo Spiffy

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1 hour ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

Ok, I've now played Bench Sumo for half a basho, and I have... so many questions.

 

 

Uh... I think that's it. For now, anyway. Thanks in advance for any answers.

A good place to start is:

Basic Rules (takanorappa.com)

 

Some more info and stats:

Bench Sumo Ichimon Page (takanorappa.com)