Juryo Promotions for 2016 Kyushu Basho

[Yubinhaad 11,975]

Three newcomers, and two returnees who have been away for some time:

Debut:

Oyanagi (Mk1e, 4-3, Tokitsukaze-beya)
Daishoho (Mk1w, 5-2, Oitekaze)
Meisei (Mk3e, 4-3, Tatsunami)

 

Return:

Yamaguchi (Mk2e, 7-0 Yusho, Miyagino)
Ryuden (Mk2w, 4-3, Takadagawa)

[Rocks 1,810]

Very deserving. Yay Yamaguchi! Next time Sakamoto.

[Kintamayama 47,339]

6 hours ago, Yubinhaad said:

Oyanagi (Mk1e, 4-3, Tokitsukaze-beya)
Daishoho (Mk1w, 5-2, Oitekaze)
Meisei (Mk3e, 4-3, Tatsunami)

 

Return:

Yamaguchi (Mk2e, 7-0 Yusho, Miyagino)
Ryuden (Mk2w, 4-3, Takadagawa)

Some Meisei so. Ryuuden hear it from me though.

[kuroimori 1,634]

Some Meisei that Kizenryu does not like this...

[Bumpkin 438]

7 hours ago, Rocks said:

Very deserving. Yay Yamaguchi! Next time Sakamoto.

Sakamoto should be Ms1e.  Which means he will need 4 wins.  Again.

[Gurowake 4,154]

11 hours ago, Bumpkin said:

Sakamoto should be Ms1e.  Which means he will need 4 wins.  Again.

Rikishin probably has as good of a claim there.  But 4 wins from Ms1w should be good.

[Gurowake 4,154]

Yet again no one changing shikona upon entering Juryo?  Is doing that seen as a historical aberration now?  Yamaguchi didn't even need to pick one out.

 

edit: Forgot about Shimnaoumi recently.  Maybe he had already picked one out when he almost made Juryo before.

Edited September 28, 2016 by Gurowake

[Kintamayama 47,339]

6 hours ago, Gurowake said:

Yet again no one changing shikona upon entering Juryo?  Is doing that seen as a historical aberration now?  Yamaguchi didn't even need to pick one out.

 

edit: Forgot about Shimnaoumi recently.  Maybe he had already picked one out when he almost made Juryo before.

During the yusho Makushita interview on NHK Yamagucci said he would like to be in Juryo for a while before he decides to change his shikona again. I think he may even use a new one, probably thinking the old one is bad luck. In any case, he won't be Yamaguchi in Makuuchi because it's bad for the chi.

Edited September 29, 2016 by Kintamayama

[Jakusotsu 6,401]

How about Daikimotodaikiho?

[Kintamayama 47,339]

Koyanagi is supposedly lined up to get the prestigious Yutakayama shikona. He says he will try to 'steal" the powerful sumo moves of Tochiazuma, Chiyotaikai and KaioU and is looking forward to facing Shoudai.

[Asashosakari 20,287]

3 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Koyanagi is supposedly lined up to get the prestigious Yutakayama shikona. He says he will try to 'steal" the powerful sumo moves of Tochiazuma, Chiyotaikai and KaioU and is looking forward to facing Shoudai.

That answer is of course a bit wacky since they're in the same stable, and came at the prompting of his/their shisho after Oyanagi amusingly blanked the journalists on that standard question by saying that there's nobody in particular he's looking forward to meet. Meanwhile, owing to the high expectations people have of him, apparently he'll eschew coloured mawashi in the sekitori ranks and use a simple black one right from the start. Adopting the Yutakayama name is under consideration upon his making makuuchi; Oyanagi hails from the same prefecture as the previous two holders of that shikona and of course also attended the same university.

Daishoho, on the other hand, considers Kakuryu a role model both on and off the dohyo and will reportedly use the same shade of blue for his mawashi. His goal for now, he says, is simply to KK in his juryo debut, and he won't be thinking about further goals until then.

Lastly, Meisei hopes to keep advancing so he'll get an opportunity to face ozeki Terunofuji (same maezumo class) as soon as possible.

[Kintamayama 47,339]

42 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

That answer is of course a bit wacky since they're in the same stable, and came at the prompting of his/their shisho after Oyanagi amusingly blanked the journalists on that standard question by saying that there's nobody in particular he's looking forward to meet. Meanwhile, owing to the high expectations people have of him, apparently he'll eschew coloured mawashi in the sekitori ranks and use a simple black one right from the start. Adopting the Yutakayama name is under consideration upon his making makuuchi; Oyanagi hails from the same prefecture as the previous two holders of that shikona and of course also attended the same university.

 

Indeed, calling him Koyanagi and translating poorly and not remembering that Shoudai is from the same stable. all in one paragraph... My sister posted that without asking me . Sorry.

[Asashosakari 20,287]

1 minute ago, Kintamayama said:

Indeed, calling him Koyanagi and translating poorly and not remembering that Shoudai is from the same stable. all in one paragraph... My sister posted that without asking me . Sorry.

I only meant to expand, not correct. 

[Kintamayama 47,339]

1 minute ago, Asashosakari said:

I only meant to expand, not correct. 

Well.. I'll try to fix this major blooper by adding that after Oyanagi said he didn't want to face anyone in  particular, his Oyakata intervened and pointed out that those were the exact words used by Shoudai at his first -time sekitori press conference back when. Oyanagi then answered that he would like to face everyone.

The journalist was impressed by this answer.

[ryafuji 825]

15 hours ago, Gurowake said:

Yet again no one changing shikona upon entering Juryo?  Is doing that seen as a historical aberration now? 

Yes I've been wondering about this too. Is there a definite trend away from getting a traditional shikona upon reaching sekitori level or is a just a perception? Is there any way to query that in the DB?

[Ryoshishokunin 335]

32 minutes ago, ryafuji said:

Is there any way to query that in the DB?

Not trivially.  You can check if they have real name matching shikona on each rikishi's page, but it's not a query variable.  

[Naganoyama 6,043]

Oyanagi facing Shodai in makuuchi would be an amazing event for the heya as it would be the yusho kettei-sen. 

[Bumpkin 438]

So Meisei wants to face Terunofuji as soon as possible.  If Terunofuji doesn't recover from his injuries soon, that meeting might take place in Juryo.

[Fukurou 534]

On 9/27/2016 at 22:24, Yubinhaad said:

Return:
Ryuden (Mk2w, 4-3, Takadagawa)

So happy for Ryuden, after that long absence.  Even though 4 1-0-6 basho in a row following 4/5 completely absent basho did seem crazy, there obviously was some sort of strategy to it.

Edited September 29, 2016 by Fukurou

[Asojima 2,874]

10 minutes ago, Fukurou said:

So happy for Ryuden, after that long absence.  Even though 4 1-0-6 basho in a row following 4/5 completely absent basho did seem crazy, there obviously was some sort of strategy to it.

A jonokuchi rikishi who goes 0-0-7 kyujo drops off the banzuke and has to start all over with maezumo.  To avoid this, injured Jk guys will show up for one match at the end of the basho to stay "active".

[Bumpkin 438]

46 minutes ago, Asojima said:

A jonokuchi rikishi who goes 0-0-7 kyujo drops off the banzuke and has to start all over with maezumo.  To avoid this, injured Jk guys will show up for one match at the end of the basho to stay "active".

What if they lose their match and finish 0-1-6?  Are they safe?

[Asojima 2,874]

Just now, Bumpkin said:

What if they lose their match and finish 0-1-6?  Are they safe?

Yes.  They only have to set foot on the dohyo for one match to avoid BG.

[Bumpkin 438]

Just now, Asojima said:

Yes.  They only have to set foot on the dohyo for one match to avoid BG.

OK.  If that's the case, why don't all jonokuchi wrestlers show up for one match?  That way, no one would ever fall off the banzuke.  Mae-zumo would/should only be for shindeshi.

[Gurowake 4,154]

 

1 hour ago, Bumpkin said:

OK.  If that's the case, why don't all jonokuchi wrestlers show up for one match?  That way, no one would ever fall off the banzuke.  Mae-zumo would/should only be for shindeshi.

They might not even be able to walk or even make an attempt at shiko on each side as would be required by the opening rituals.  Or they're jonidan(-at-best)-level rikishi that gain basically nothing from being able to spend one less basho coming up through the ranks again (see: Hokutoryu).

[rhyen 1,858]

Daiki's shikona will be Hokutofuji(?), assuming I heard the newscaster right (am groggily watching this from my bed)