Jakusotsu 5,298 Posted September 8, 2016 Hehe, he said "tickle".... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,785 Posted September 8, 2016 Just now, Bumpkin said: What? I knew yama meant mountain, I thought kin meant gold as in kinboshi-gold star. Isn't tama a common suffix as in Tamawashi? Kintama together maketh the word testicles. Golden balls. Tama is ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) OK I get it. Gold-Ball-Mountain literally. Testicles are implied. You are the man in more ways than one. BTW what does Tamawashi mean? Edited September 10, 2016 by Bumpkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 17,647 Posted September 8, 2016 37 minutes ago, Bumpkin said: OK I get it. Gold-Ball-Mountain literally. Testicles is implied. You are the man in more ways than one. Given the subject matter, one would surely hope it's more than one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,785 Posted September 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Bumpkin said: OK I get it. Gold-Ball-Mountain literally. Testicles is implied. You are the man in more ways than one. BTW does Tamawashi mean ball-washer? No, not implied. That's how you say testicles in Japanese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,790 Posted September 9, 2016 Kintamayama, In all the years of watching, following and being involved with sumo to what would you assign it's ability to overcome adversity, scandals, etc? I mean 4 years ago this whole sport was hit with a double whammy, now they can't book jungyo fast enough let alone selling out every seat for a basho. No sport could recover that quickly. How does sumo pull this off again and again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masumasumasu 902 Posted September 9, 2016 20 hours ago, Kintamayama said: No, not implied. That's how you say testicles in Japanese. Testicles are sexist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 17,647 Posted September 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, Rocks said: In all the years of watching, following and being involved with sumo to what would you assign it's ability to overcome adversity, scandals, etc? I mean 4 years ago this whole sport was hit with a double whammy, now they can't book jungyo fast enough let alone selling out every seat for a basho. No sport could recover that quickly. How does sumo pull this off again and again? It's not like the yaocho scandal came during a period of high popularity - Ozumo had been stagnating at a pretty low level since the mid-00's already. If anything, the yaocho stuff simply made them hit rock bottom, and made the people in charge take note that they couldn't just keep cruising any longer. Quick recoveries aren't that unusual for big-league sports IMHO when there's a concerted effort to rehabilitate their reputation, as there has been with sumo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,790 Posted September 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, Asashosakari said: It's not like the yaocho scandal came during a period of high popularity - Ozumo had been stagnating at a pretty low level since the mid-00's already. If anything, the yaocho stuff simply made them hit rock bottom, and made the people in charge take note that they couldn't just keep cruising any longer. Quick recoveries aren't that unusual for big-league sports IMHO when there's a concerted effort to rehabilitate their reputation, as there has been with sumo. That is interesting. I didn't think it was doing poorly in the 00s. Do you think that the low level then being hit with the baseball betting and yaocho that fans realized they might actually lose sumo altogether? or was it mostly Hakuho that turned things around? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,785 Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) On 9.9.2016 at 07:36, Rocks said: Kintamayama, In all the years of watching, following and being involved with sumo to what would you assign it's ability to overcome adversity, scandals, etc? I mean 4 years ago this whole sport was hit with a double whammy, now they can't book jungyo fast enough let alone selling out every seat for a basho. No sport could recover that quickly. How does sumo pull this off again and again? I'd say in addition to what Asashosakari said, sumo has a large hard-core fan base. This fan base fluctuates during ebbs and tides and is undeniably getting older, but it's there. In addition, the arrival lately of fresh good-looking meat has brought with it a younger set of new fans (mostly female). And what Asashosakari said. Edited September 10, 2016 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) Kinta, I am intererested in what the various prefixes and suffixes in shikonas mean. Is there any place on this forum or elsewhere that would have any information? Thank you. Bumpkin. I am sorry about the Tamawashi joke. It has been edited accordingly. Edited September 10, 2016 by Bumpkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,785 Posted September 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Bumpkin said: Kinta, I am intererested in what the various prefixes and suffixes in shikonas mean. Is there any place on this forum or elsewhere that would have any information? Thank you. Bumpkin. I am sorry about the Tamawashi joke. It has been edited accordingly. There should be a thread regarding the various prefixes and suffixes. Maybe someone else can help with a link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,785 Posted September 10, 2016 On 9.9.2016 at 07:38, Masumasumasu said: Testicles are sexist. And this even isn't about Hakuhou. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,785 Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) On 8.9.2016 at 08:54, Bumpkin said: BTW what does Tamawashi mean? I thought it was about someone washing a ball but I was wrong. Edited September 10, 2016 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,074 Posted September 10, 2016 7 hours ago, Kintamayama said: I thought it was about someone washing a ball but I was wrong. I heard that Damawashi is what Irish rikishi wear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,730 Posted September 10, 2016 Saying Hoku- is from Hokkaido seems backwards. Even saying "as in" Hokkaido is less than clarifying if you don't understand the Japanese pronunciation change that occurs that causes the gemination of the 'k'/removal of the 'u' due to the proximity of the k's in 北海道 = "Hoku-kai-do" (North Sea Circuit). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sekitori 492 Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, Bumpkin said: Kinta, I am intererested in what the various prefixes and suffixes in shikonas mean. Is there any place on this forum or elsewhere that would have any information? Many years ago, I found the following list of prefixes and suffixes. I believe they're accurate, but since I don't speak Japanese, I'm not sure. There must be many more. Some shikonas are quite strange and/or clever. Konishiki, who weighed around 600 pounds (over 270 kilos) was "Little brocade". Names of rikishis from Michinoku beya began with Hoshi- (star). Two of them were from Argentina. In tribute to mountains and a dance from that area, they were Hoshiandes and Hoshitango. For what it's worth, this is the list. Pardon the double spacing between them. I couldn't transfer them will single spacing which I would have preferred. -yama Mountain -kaze Wind -gawa River -umi Sea -shio Tide -nishiki Brocade -nobori Ascent -ryu Dragon Tochi- Horse chestnut Koto- Large zither Hoku- , Kita- North -shima Island -hana Flower -izumi Spring, fountain -kuni, -koku Country -sato Village -sakura, -zakura Cherry blossoms -misugi Three cypresses -Waka- Youth, young O-/Dai-/Tai - Large Asa- Morning Tama- Jewel Taka- High, noble Hoshi- Star Chiyo- 1000 years; eternity -Fuji- Mt. Fuji (That seems to make sense) -nada- Open sea -tenyu Heavenly aid Mae- Forward Takami- High view Kiyo- Clean, pure Fusa- Tassel Tatsu- Standing Asahi- Rising sun Ko- Little, small Edited September 10, 2016 by sekitori 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 10, 2016 Sekitori-san, thank you very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 10, 2016 Does Wajima mean peaceful island? If so, what a great shikona considering it's his family name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronnie 221 Posted September 10, 2016 6 hours ago, sekitori said: Many years ago, I found the following list of prefixes and suffixes. I believe they're accurate, but since I don't speak Japanese, I'm not sure. There must be many more. Some shikonas are quite strange and/or clever. Konishiki, who weighed around 600 pounds (over 270 kilos) was "Little brocade". Names of rikishis from Michinoku beya began with Hoshi- (star). Two of them were from Argentina. In tribute to mountains and a dance from that area, they were Hoshiandes and Hoshitango. For what it's worth, this is the list. Pardon the double spacing between them. I couldn't transfer them will single spacing which I would have preferred. -yama Mountain -kaze Wind -gawa River -umi Sea -shio Tide -nishiki Brocade -nobori Ascent -ryu Dragon Tochi- Horse chestnut Koto- Large zither Hoku- , Kita- North -shima Island -hana Flower -izumi Spring, fountain -kuni, -koku Country -sato Village -sakura, -zakura Cherry blossoms -misugi Three cypresses -Waka- Youth, young O-/Dai-/Tai - Large Asa- Morning Tama- Jewel Taka- High, noble Hoshi- Star Chiyo- 1000 years; eternity -Fuji- Mt. Fuji (That seems to make sense) -nada- Open sea -tenyu Heavenly aid Mae- Forward Takami- High view Kiyo- Clean, pure Fusa- Tassel Tatsu- Standing Asahi- Rising sun Ko- Little, small When I see the shikona Amakaze, I automatically think "horse wind"! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 15, 2016 Have you ever been to the United States? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,785 Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bumpkin said: Have you ever been to the United States? Sure, many times. Last April in NY, and I'll be back again in Manhattan in October to see a Steely Dan concert AND a Squeeze concert . I even went with Doitsuyama to Detroit to see an NBA playoff game:Lakers-Pistons back in 2004 I think..don't remember the date. That adventure is an incredible story. Edited September 15, 2016 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: Sure, many times. Last April in NY, and I'll be back again in Manhattan in October to see a Steely Dan concert AND a Squeeze concert . I even went with Doitsuyama to Detroit to see an NBA playoff game:Lakers-Pistons back in 2004 I think..don't remember the date. That adventure is an incredible story. Steely Dan and Squeeze! You are the Man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,785 Posted September 15, 2016 Just now, Bumpkin said: Steely Dan and Squeeze! You are the Man! By sheer luck they are playing within days of each other and within a 40 mile distance. Incredible. My 2 favorite bands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumozumo 240 Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Sure, many times. Last April in NY, and I'll be back again in Manhattan in October to see a Steely Dan concert AND a Squeeze concert . I even went with Doitsuyama to Detroit to see an NBA playoff game:Lakers-Pistons back in 2004 I think..don't remember the date. That adventure is an incredible story. Holy smokes, I went to a 2004 Lakers Pistons playoff game. There's a 33% chance it was the same one... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
