Basho Talk - Nagoya Basho 2016 +++ Spoiler Alert! +++

[MrGrumpyGills 114]

Nasty kachiage by the Boss....

I thought it was an excellent kachiage!

I'm beginning to wonder if Tochiozan has said or done something behind the scenes that has irritated Hakuko.

He beat him last year.

[Katooshu 3,079]

Ura is some escape artist....it feels like every other match he looks on the brink of being pushed out, but his ability to stay on his feet and in bounds during tough situations is something else.

[Atenzan 1,074]

Give Ura a year or three to four and he'll become a very exciting makuuchi-jo'i regular.

[Atenzan 1,074]

Who are your bets for the hiramaku dai-ichigo? I say Ichinojou gets there on day 9, looking as good as ever.

[egparis18 622]

Who are your bets for the hiramaku dai-ichigo? I say Ichinojou gets there on day 9, looking as good as ever.

I'm sure he will, but what is it?

[Treblemaker 254]

Let's play "what if"...

Let's say both Geeku and Goeido crap out of the Ozeki roles, and Kise gets promoted. Essentially, there would be 4 Yoks and only 1 Ozeki (Terunofuji). (I don't see anyone realistically being imminently bumped up to Ozeki any time soon.)

I remember the days when there were a glut of Yoks, but they were on their way out, and there were enough Ozekis to hold a nice campfire.

With the banzuke now completely looking like something from Bizzaro World (4 Yoks, 1 Oz), is there something in the NSK handbook that would serve to correct the balance? I'm sure this has happened before, but I don't remember if there were any special steps taken at the time.

Anyone?

[Atenzan 1,074]

Who are your bets for the hiramaku dai-ichigo? I say Ichinojou gets there on day 9, looking as good as ever.

I'm sure he will, but what is it?

First hiramaku (maegashira-ranked) rikishi to get his kachikoshi.

[Atenzan 1,074]

Let's play "what if"...

Let's say both Geeku and Goeido crap out of the Ozeki roles, and Kise gets promoted. Essentially, there would be 4 Yoks and only 1 Ozeki (Terunofuji). (I don't see anyone realistically being imminently bumped up to Ozeki any time soon.)

I remember the days when there were a glut of Yoks, but they were on their way out, and there were enough Ozekis to hold a nice campfire.

With the banzuke now completely looking like something from Bizzaro World (4 Yoks, 1 Oz), is there something in the NSK handbook that would serve to correct the balance? I'm sure this has happened before, but I don't remember if there were any special steps taken at the time.

Anyone?

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=196607

4Y, 1O has happened before. I guess that the banzuke will revert to normal in time, there's nothing NSK can do to "fix" it except push for Yok retirements.

By the way, and I'm looking at Asashosakari, does anyone know why in the case of the linked banzuke they nominated Kashiwado to be the yokozuna-ozeki and not Sadanoyama? It makes sense to me that the haridashi-yokozuna would befit the name more than the sei-yokozuna.

Edited July 13, 2016 by McBugger

[Asashosakari 18,657]

With the banzuke now completely looking like something from Bizzaro World (4 Yoks, 1 Oz), is there something in the NSK handbook that would serve to correct the balance? I'm sure this has happened before, but I don't remember if there were any special steps taken at the time.

Y2w serves as yokozuna-ozeki on the banzuke to cover for the lack of a proper West Ozeki, presumably.

[egparis18 622]

Who are your bets for the hiramaku dai-ichigo? I say Ichinojou gets there on day 9, looking as good as ever.

I'm sure he will, but what is it?

First hiramaku (maegashira-ranked) rikishi to get his kachikoshi.

Ευχαριστώ πολύ. :-) I'll try to remember.

[Chiyozakura 128]

Let's play "what if"...

Let's say both Geeku and Goeido crap out of the Ozeki roles, and Kise gets promoted. Essentially, there would be 4 Yoks and only 1 Ozeki (Terunofuji). (I don't see anyone realistically being imminently bumped up to Ozeki any time soon.)

I remember the days when there were a glut of Yoks, but they were on their way out, and there were enough Ozekis to hold a nice campfire.

With the banzuke now completely looking like something from Bizzaro World (4 Yoks, 1 Oz), is there something in the NSK handbook that would serve to correct the balance? I'm sure this has happened before, but I don't remember if there were any special steps taken at the time.

Anyone?

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=196607

4Y, 1O has happened before. I guess that the banzuke will revert to normal in time, there's nothing NSK can do to "fix" it except push for Yok retirements.

By the way, and I'm looking at Asashosakari, does anyone know why in the case of the linked banzuke they nominated Kashiwado to be the yokozuna-ozeki and not Sadanoyama? It makes sense to me that the haridashi-yokozuna would befit the name more than the sei-yokozuna.

Back then a second Yokozuna on one side was attached at the side of the banzuke as haridashi Yokozuna. That means that in the order of reading on the West side Kashiwado was ahead of Sekiwake Tamanoshima and Komusubi Hasegawa while Sadanoyama was attached "outside the frame". So to have the correct order Kashiwado had to be the Ozeki.

[Kintamayama 44,208]

Who are your bets for the hiramaku dai-ichigo? I say Ichinojou gets there on day 9, looking as good as ever.

Ichinojou is the regular Ichinojou. He is not looking as good as ever..

He has never had a makekoshi ranked under M4.

He has not had a kachikoshi ranked higher than M4 the last four times he was there. He didn't win more than 5 bouts in any of those bashos.

Ichinojou is being the usual Ichinojou. His initial good records are unrepeated history. Until he can prove otherwise, he is still the same Ichinojou of late.

Edited July 13, 2016 by Kintamayama

[Dapeng 232]

If Geeku does not withdraw from this basho, will he break Teru's losing record of last basho?

[Asashosakari 18,657]

Ichinojou is the regular Ichinojou. He is not looking as good as ever..

He has never had a makekoshi ranked under M4.

He has not had a kachikoshi ranked higher than M4 the last four times he was there. He didn't win more than 5 bouts in any of those bashos.

You can't spell Ichinojo without Ic*i*oj*.

(Okay, that was quite the stretch...)

[kuroimori 1,634]

Nasty kachiage by the Boss....

Maybe a ttribute to the late Carlo Pedetsoli , a.k.a. Bud Spencer?

[bettega 422]

Kaisei? As the East Sekiwake, he has it pretty easy the first few days. Steak time- no more than 6 wins. He's beaten Tochinoshin (pretty even score between them) and Kotoyuuki (dominates him) so far. Let's not be L7.

6 wins is 3 more than what I'm expecting :-D

[egparis18 622]

3 matta in the Ichinojo Yoshikaze bout? I couldn't see why.

Did I miss something or am I right in thinking the gyoji was nitpicking?

Very sorry for Yoshikaze.

[kuroimori 1,634]

3 matta in the Ichinojo Yoshikaze bout? I couldn't see why.

Did I miss something or am I right in thinking the gyoji was nitpicking?

Very sorry for Yoshikaze.

Ichinojo mattaed his way to victory, apparently hitting against Yoshikaze's eye socket in the matta overture.

I can only repeat: in Ozumo timing does matta!

Edited July 14, 2016 by kuroimori

[rhyen 1,799]

Takarafuji kinboshi!!!

[kuroimori 1,634]

Well, the one who is smiling now is clearly Tochiozan. So much for too much self confidence...

[Masumasumasu 902]

Takarafuji is the man!

[MrGrumpyGills 114]

Takarafuji kinboshi!!!

Yaayyy! :D

[Jyuunomori 226]

Hakuho was so distracted because of Kisenosato's slipup that he himself got owned. Only if the kimarite had been Kubinage instead.

Excitement ensues! Ichinojo is in the lead. xD

But yeah beating two Ozeki, a Sekiwake and Grand Yokozuna Hakuho. 8 wins and Outstanding Performance price is in Takarafuji's pocket. I have no doubts of this.

Edited July 14, 2016 by Jyuunomori

[kuroimori 1,634]

Oh come on...

Hakuho opens with a harite, Takarafuji counters by nekodamashi(!!!) and then Hakuho took a free handed dive. Seriously?

[rhyen 1,799]

No, it was an Osunaarashi's swing that Takarafuji used to enrage Hakuho into a bulldozing charge. Olé!