Yubinhaad 11,761 Posted July 12, 2016 This is the 9th time in the Heisei era that two kinboshi have been won on the same honbasho day. The last time it happened was almost 17 years ago in the 1999 Aki basho (twice, in fact). Basho, Day Winner Loser 1991 Hatsu, Day 7 Terao Onokuni Daishoyama Hokutoumi 1991 Nagoya, Day 4 Daishoyama onokuni Tochinowaka Hokutoumi 1997 Nagoya, Day 3 Takatoriki Akebono Aogiyama Takanohana 1998 Kyushu, Day 3 Kaio Wakanohana Tochiazuma Takanohana 1998 Kyushu, Day 13 Tosanoumi Wakanohana Kotonishiki Takanohana 1999 Haru, Day 4 Kyokushuzan Wakanohana Tosanoumi Takanohana 1999 Aki, Day 1 Tamakasuga Wakanohana Tochiazuma Takanohana 1999 Aki, Day 11 Kotonowaka Wakanohana Minatofuji Musashimaru 2016 Nagoya, Day 3 Tochiozan Kakuryu Okinoumi Harumafuji It's a pity Mitakeumi didn't make it a hat-trick, because that's only happened twice before. Basho, Day Winner Loser 1956 Natsu, Day 1 Narutoumi Kagamisato Futatsuryu Tochinishiki Wakahaguro Yoshibayama 1966 Haru, Day 3 Kiyokuni Tochinoumi Wakamiyama Sadanoyama Asasegawa Kashiwado 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dapeng 236 Posted July 12, 2016 This is the 9th time in the Heisei era that two kinboshi have been won on the same honbasho day. The last time it happened was almost 17 years ago in the 1999 Aki basho (twice, in fact). Basho, Day Winner Loser 1991 Hatsu, Day 7 Terao Onokuni Daishoyama Hokutoumi 1991 Nagoya, Day 4 Daishoyama onokuni Tochinowaka Hokutoumi 1997 Nagoya, Day 3 Takatoriki Akebono Aogiyama Takanohana 1998 Kyushu, Day 3 Kaio Wakanohana Tochiazuma Takanohana 1998 Kyushu, Day 13 Tosanoumi Wakanohana Kotonishiki Takanohana 1999 Haru, Day 4 Kyokushuzan Wakanohana Tosanoumi Takanohana 1999 Aki, Day 1 Tamakasuga Wakanohana Tochiazuma Takanohana 1999 Aki, Day 11 Kotonowaka Wakanohana Minatofuji Musashimaru 2016 Nagoya, Day 3 Tochiozan Kakuryu Okinoumi HarumafujiIt's a pity Mitakeumi didn't make it a hat-trick, because that's only happened twice before. Basho, Day Winner Loser 1956 Natsu, Day 1 Narutoumi Kagamisato Futatsuryu Tochinishiki Wakahaguro Yoshibayama 1966 Haru, Day 3 Kiyokuni Tochinoumi Wakamiyama Sadanoyama Asasegawa Kashiwado Good job! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted July 12, 2016 Congratulations to Tochiozan for that kinboshi! Skinny there, Kitaharima, showing some quickness. I like it, I wanna see more. Did Takekaze just headbutt Endo into next week? Heh, I want to see that from another angle. Also, bad day to be in the front row. It's raining men... If Kotoshougiku is wrestling like this in the first week, next week is going to...well. It's not too late for him to rally, but he better get it together unless he wants to go kadoban. Takayasu looking good so far. I can't help but wonder if he's leveled up, but it's just too soon to say. Mitakeumi...goodness. Well, this is a learning experience for him. And frankly, 0 and 3 at his rank is not so surprising, especially when you consider how green he is. He'll be stronger in the long run for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dapeng 236 Posted July 12, 2016 Tochi, no win. Kotoshougiku must go kyujo. This is becoming painful. Don't think so, he will be the last basho's Teru to give a win to every one ...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamcornheinz 839 Posted July 12, 2016 Those kubinages didn't work that well today, did they... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALAKTORN 346 Posted July 12, 2016 Harumafuji's knee seems to be in really bad shape. He couldn't put any pressure on it when he wanted to stop his trajectory at the edge of the tawara.I think it was just bad ring sense. He thought he had more room and jumped further away than he should’ve, stumbling on the tawara with his left foot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 12, 2016 Harumafuji's knee seems to be in really bad shape. He couldn't put any pressure on it when he wanted to stop his trajectory at the edge of the tawara.I think it was just bad ring sense. He thought he had more room and jumped further away than he should’ve, stumbling on the tawara with his left foot. I hope you are right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,084 Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Well, Day 3 remains Kinboshi Day as far as the modern era is concerned-- 99 kinboshi have been given out on day 3 since 1959, 22 more than any other day. No kinboshi have been given on senshuuraku and, had Toyonoshima beaten Hakuhou in that kettei-sen match, he would have become the only Maegashira to beat a Yokozuna in a playoff. Here are the bouts since 1959 where a maegashira has beaten a Yokozuna, grouped by day of the honbasho. Day Bouts 3 99 2 77 4 76 6 65 5 61 7 58 1 56 8 44 9 42 10 39 11 34 12 16 13 11 14 6 15 0 16 0 Edited July 12, 2016 by McBugger 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,761 Posted July 12, 2016 Well, Day 3 remains Kinboshi Day as far as the modern era is concerned-- 99 kinboshi have been given out on day 3 since 1959, 22 more than any other day. I think your data is including fusensho results which do not count as kinboshi, for instance there have only been four kinboshi on Day 14. This is what my files show for the kinboshi-by-day totals, in the 15-day era (since 1949 Natsu): Day 1 - 75 Day 2 - 96 Day 3 - 97 Day 4 - 80 Day 5 - 69 Day 6 - 80 Day 7 - 62 Day 8 - 54 Day 9 - 43 Day 10 - 38 Day 11 - 35 Day 12 - 19 Day 13 - 11 Day 14 - 4 Day 15 - 0 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryoshishokunin 323 Posted July 12, 2016 Do you have the denominator data (the number of kinboshi-eligible bouts per day) as well? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted July 12, 2016 I think your data is including fusensho results which do not count as kinboshi, for instance there have only been four kinboshi on Day 14. This is what my files show for the kinboshi-by-day totals, in the 15-day era (since 1949 Natsu): Day 1 - 75 Day 2 - 96 Day 3 - 97 Day 4 - 80 Day 5 - 69 Day 6 - 80 Day 7 - 62 Day 8 - 54 Day 9 - 43 Day 10 - 38 Day 11 - 35 Day 12 - 19 Day 13 - 11 Day 14 - 4 Day 15 - 0 Most yokozuna/maegashira matches occur on days 2-6. Occurences on 7-12 are uncommon, but normally involve a low-ranking yusho contender. Days 13 and 14 are for really hot low-rankers. Day 15 is almost unheard of. Underperforming yokozunas have a tough first week and then usually drop out on days 8 or 9. The numbers pretty closely match the expected scheduling pattern. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,667 Posted July 12, 2016 Occurences on 7-12 are uncommon, but normally involve a low-ranking yusho contender.I would say the much more likely reason is sanyaku rikishi dropping out to necessitate an extra Y-M bout. And of course, depending on the size and composition (same-heya rule...) of sanyaku in a given tournament, it's not exactly unusual to see a yokozuna's standard maegashira slate run into Days 7/8/9 anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,294 Posted July 12, 2016 Takayasu looking good so far. I can't help but wonder if he's leveled up, but it's just too soon to say. Takayasu has these bashos from time to time when he's fired up and does well, but it doesn't always last all basho. I think it's still early to say if he'll be going places this time, but I'm rooting for him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,335 Posted July 12, 2016 Anyone else sense some tension between Teru and Kotoyuki? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egparis18 622 Posted July 12, 2016 Anyone else sense some tension between Teru and Kotoyuki? Terunofuji looked very fierce indeed I noticed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,530 Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Harumafuji was reprimanded today for wearing that black arm supporter. "It interferes with the beauty of the dohyo," was the reason given. The rules do not specifically say that all bandages etc should be white, but it is the custom (Aah, brings back memories of another Mongolian Yokozuna who did not adhere to "custom"..). "I told him to use a white one. He said he understood," explained Nishonoseki, head of judging department. "The black one is made of rubber and is much tighter. The white ones are loose.." explained Harumafuji. Edited July 12, 2016 by Kintamayama 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted July 12, 2016 White rubber is the answer! And love. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,049 Posted July 12, 2016 How about Amuru's black gloves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsubame 368 Posted July 12, 2016 Is there a reason why Terunofuji is wearing a plain black kesho mawashi? Never saw an unicolour one before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALAKTORN 346 Posted July 12, 2016 Can’t he just cover the black supporter with some white tape or whatever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted July 12, 2016 Anyone else sense some tension between Teru and Kotoyuki? Terunofuji looked very fierce indeed I noticed. A while back, two basho ago, I think, Kotoyuki had beaten Terunofuji. In an interview, Terunofuji admitted in so many words that he had been intimidated. This time, he was not having any of Kotoyuki's mind games. I could be wrong, but it seems reasonable enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted July 12, 2016 I think it was more revenge for last basho on senshuraku when Kotoyuki massacred him but he didn't have the legs to fight back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 12, 2016 Is there a reason why Terunofuji is wearing a plain black kesho mawashi? Never saw an unicolour one before. The black one is made of rubber and much tighter... :-) 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,294 Posted July 12, 2016 Harumafuji was reprimanded today for wearing that black arm supporter. "It interferes with the beauty of the dohyo," was the reason given. The rules do not specifically say that all bandages etc should be white, but it is the custom (Aah, brings back memories of another Mongolian Yokozuna who did not adhere to "custom"..). "I told him to use a white one. He said he understood," explained Nishonoseki, head of judging department. "The black one is made of rubber and is much tighter. The white ones are loose.." explained Harumafuji. The real reason is of course that it matches perfectly with his mawashi. What, didn't you know that Harumafuji is the most fashion-conscious rikishi out there? It's the sumo version of the little black dress. Look out for matching knee-supporters tomorrow. Of course if for example Oosunaarashi would do the same he would look like a ninja... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bettega 431 Posted July 12, 2016 As nobody talks about him: Kaisei is looking good. I was beting 3-12 this basho, but who knows? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
