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This is the 9th time in the Heisei era that two kinboshi have been won on the same honbasho day. The last time it happened was almost 17 years ago in the 1999 Aki basho (twice, in fact).

Basho, Day		Winner		Loser

1991 Hatsu, Day 7	Terao		Onokuni
			Daishoyama	Hokutoumi

1991 Nagoya, Day 4	Daishoyama	onokuni
			Tochinowaka	Hokutoumi

1997 Nagoya, Day 3	Takatoriki	Akebono
			Aogiyama	Takanohana

1998 Kyushu, Day 3	Kaio		Wakanohana
			Tochiazuma	Takanohana

1998 Kyushu, Day 13	Tosanoumi	Wakanohana
			Kotonishiki	Takanohana

1999 Haru, Day 4	Kyokushuzan	Wakanohana
			Tosanoumi	Takanohana

1999 Aki, Day 1		Tamakasuga	Wakanohana
			Tochiazuma	Takanohana

1999 Aki, Day 11	Kotonowaka	Wakanohana
			Minatofuji	Musashimaru

2016 Nagoya, Day 3	Tochiozan	Kakuryu
			Okinoumi	Harumafuji

It's a pity Mitakeumi didn't make it a hat-trick, because that's only happened twice before.

Basho, Day		Winner		Loser

1956 Natsu, Day 1	Narutoumi	Kagamisato
			Futatsuryu	Tochinishiki
			Wakahaguro	Yoshibayama

1966 Haru, Day 3	Kiyokuni	Tochinoumi
			Wakamiyama	Sadanoyama
			Asasegawa	Kashiwado
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This is the 9th time in the Heisei era that two kinboshi have been won on the same honbasho day. The last time it happened was almost 17 years ago in the 1999 Aki basho (twice, in fact).

Basho, Day		Winner		Loser

1991 Hatsu, Day 7	Terao		Onokuni
			Daishoyama	Hokutoumi

1991 Nagoya, Day 4	Daishoyama	onokuni
			Tochinowaka	Hokutoumi

1997 Nagoya, Day 3	Takatoriki	Akebono
			Aogiyama	Takanohana

1998 Kyushu, Day 3	Kaio		Wakanohana
			Tochiazuma	Takanohana

1998 Kyushu, Day 13	Tosanoumi	Wakanohana
			Kotonishiki	Takanohana

1999 Haru, Day 4	Kyokushuzan	Wakanohana
			Tosanoumi	Takanohana

1999 Aki, Day 1		Tamakasuga	Wakanohana
			Tochiazuma	Takanohana

1999 Aki, Day 11	Kotonowaka	Wakanohana
			Minatofuji	Musashimaru

2016 Nagoya, Day 3	Tochiozan	Kakuryu
			Okinoumi	Harumafuji
It's a pity Mitakeumi didn't make it a hat-trick, because that's only happened twice before.

Basho, Day		Winner		Loser

1956 Natsu, Day 1	Narutoumi	Kagamisato
			Futatsuryu	Tochinishiki
			Wakahaguro	Yoshibayama

1966 Haru, Day 3	Kiyokuni	Tochinoumi
			Wakamiyama	Sadanoyama
			Asasegawa	Kashiwado

Good job!

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Congratulations to Tochiozan for that kinboshi!

Skinny there, Kitaharima, showing some quickness. I like it, I wanna see more.

Did Takekaze just headbutt Endo into next week? Heh, I want to see that from another angle. Also, bad day to be in the front row. It's raining men...

If Kotoshougiku is wrestling like this in the first week, next week is going to...well. It's not too late for him to rally, but he better get it together unless he wants to go kadoban.

Takayasu looking good so far. I can't help but wonder if he's leveled up, but it's just too soon to say.

Mitakeumi...goodness. Well, this is a learning experience for him. And frankly, 0 and 3 at his rank is not so surprising, especially when you consider how green he is. He'll be stronger in the long run for it.

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Tochi, no win.

Kotoshougiku must go kyujo. This is becoming painful.

Don't think so, he will be the last basho's Teru to give a win to every one ......

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Harumafuji's knee seems to be in really bad shape. He couldn't put any pressure on it when he wanted to stop his trajectory at the edge of the tawara.

I think it was just bad ring sense. He thought he had more room and jumped further away than he should’ve, stumbling on the tawara with his left foot.

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Harumafuji's knee seems to be in really bad shape. He couldn't put any pressure on it when he wanted to stop his trajectory at the edge of the tawara.

I think it was just bad ring sense. He thought he had more room and jumped further away than he should’ve, stumbling on the tawara with his left foot.

I hope you are right.

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Well, Day 3 remains Kinboshi Day as far as the modern era is concerned-- 99 kinboshi have been given out on day 3 since 1959, 22 more than any other day.

No kinboshi have been given on senshuuraku and, had Toyonoshima beaten Hakuhou in that kettei-sen match, he would have become the only Maegashira to beat a Yokozuna in a playoff. Here are the bouts since 1959 where a maegashira has beaten a Yokozuna, grouped by day of the honbasho.

Day Bouts

3 99

2 77

4 76

6 65

5 61

7 58

1 56

8 44

9 42

10 39

11 34

12 16

13 11

14 6

15 0

16 0

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Well, Day 3 remains Kinboshi Day as far as the modern era is concerned-- 99 kinboshi have been given out on day 3 since 1959, 22 more than any other day.

I think your data is including fusensho results which do not count as kinboshi, for instance there have only been four kinboshi on Day 14. This is what my files show for the kinboshi-by-day totals, in the 15-day era (since 1949 Natsu):

Day 1 - 75

Day 2 - 96

Day 3 - 97

Day 4 - 80

Day 5 - 69

Day 6 - 80

Day 7 - 62

Day 8 - 54

Day 9 - 43

Day 10 - 38

Day 11 - 35

Day 12 - 19

Day 13 - 11

Day 14 - 4

Day 15 - 0

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I think your data is including fusensho results which do not count as kinboshi, for instance there have only been four kinboshi on Day 14. This is what my files show for the kinboshi-by-day totals, in the 15-day era (since 1949 Natsu):

Day 1 - 75

Day 2 - 96

Day 3 - 97

Day 4 - 80

Day 5 - 69

Day 6 - 80

Day 7 - 62

Day 8 - 54

Day 9 - 43

Day 10 - 38

Day 11 - 35

Day 12 - 19

Day 13 - 11

Day 14 - 4

Day 15 - 0

Most yokozuna/maegashira matches occur on days 2-6. Occurences on 7-12 are uncommon, but normally involve a low-ranking yusho contender. Days 13 and 14 are for really hot low-rankers. Day 15 is almost unheard of. Underperforming yokozunas have a tough first week and then usually drop out on days 8 or 9. The numbers pretty closely match the expected scheduling pattern.
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Occurences on 7-12 are uncommon, but normally involve a low-ranking yusho contender.

I would say the much more likely reason is sanyaku rikishi dropping out to necessitate an extra Y-M bout. And of course, depending on the size and composition (same-heya rule...) of sanyaku in a given tournament, it's not exactly unusual to see a yokozuna's standard maegashira slate run into Days 7/8/9 anyway.
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Takayasu looking good so far. I can't help but wonder if he's leveled up, but it's just too soon to say.

Takayasu has these bashos from time to time when he's fired up and does well, but it doesn't always last all basho. I think it's still early to say if he'll be going places this time, but I'm rooting for him.

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Anyone else sense some tension between Teru and Kotoyuki?

Terunofuji looked very fierce indeed I noticed.

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Harumafuji was reprimanded today for wearing that black arm supporter. "It interferes with the beauty of the dohyo," was the reason given. The rules do not specifically say that all bandages etc should be white, but it is the custom (Aah, brings back memories of another Mongolian Yokozuna who did not adhere to "custom"..). "I told him to use a white one. He said he understood," explained Nishonoseki, head of judging department. "The black one is made of rubber and is much tighter. The white ones are loose.." explained Harumafuji.

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Is there a reason why Terunofuji is wearing a plain black kesho mawashi? Never saw an unicolour one before.

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Can’t he just cover the black supporter with some white tape or whatever?

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Anyone else sense some tension between Teru and Kotoyuki?

Terunofuji looked very fierce indeed I noticed.

A while back, two basho ago, I think, Kotoyuki had beaten Terunofuji. In an interview, Terunofuji admitted in so many words that he had been intimidated. This time, he was not having any of Kotoyuki's mind games. I could be wrong, but it seems reasonable enough.

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I think it was more revenge for last basho on senshuraku when Kotoyuki massacred him but he didn't have the legs to fight back.

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Is there a reason why Terunofuji is wearing a plain black kesho mawashi? Never saw an unicolour one before.

The black one is made of rubber and much tighter... :-)

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Harumafuji was reprimanded today for wearing that black arm supporter. "It interferes with the beauty of the dohyo," was the reason given. The rules do not specifically say that all bandages etc should be white, but it is the custom (Aah, brings back memories of another Mongolian Yokozuna who did not adhere to "custom"..). "I told him to use a white one. He said he understood," explained Nishonoseki, head of judging department. "The black one is made of rubber and is much tighter. The white ones are loose.." explained Harumafuji.

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The real reason is of course that it matches perfectly with his mawashi. What, didn't you know that Harumafuji is the most fashion-conscious rikishi out there? It's the sumo version of the little black dress. Look out for matching knee-supporters tomorrow. Of course if for example Oosunaarashi would do the same he would look like a ninja...

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As nobody talks about him: Kaisei is looking good. I was beting 3-12 this basho, but who knows?

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