808morgan 805 Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) He had surgery on his leg, so he is out, reshuffle the banzuke. "The Achilles heel of the left foot I have ruptured during the practice." Get better soon! Edited July 4, 2016 by 808morgan 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,074 Posted July 4, 2016 33 years old and with a vacant kabu... he'll be ranked around J6-J7 in Aki but if he misses that basho too then I'm afraid it's curtains on a career he should be proud of. 5 jun-yusho incuding a 14-1D, 10 sansho including 4 gino- and 3 shukun-sho, 4 kinboshi, 13 san'yaku appearances with a few KKs. Not far off from a 50% makuuchi career percentage, quite a feat for someone who went in and out of the jo'i for about 300 years of his career. Even if you get well, and I hope you will, thanks for the memories. Please gambarize. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 974 Posted July 4, 2016 Ouch. That injury may take more than a basho to heal. Even if it heals, he may not be in good shape to climb out of Juryo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Ouch. That injury may take more than a basho to heal. Even if it heals, he may not be in good shape to climb out of Juryo. 6-12 weeks in a cast or boot, and he won't be allowed to put any weight on it, as well as physical therapy of unknown duration. PT begins with activities to get and keep the blood flowing to the injury, with strengthening exercises introduced later (when he's not likely to re-injure himself with his own PT). The length of therapy depends on the severity of the injury, whether or not surgery was performed, your own medical history, and how dedicated you are with your rehab. It's not uncommon for athletes to never get back to the level they were at before. Typically it'll be 4-6 months before he could begin any running (I assume there's some sumo-equivalent non-running activity that they'll hold him back from), and it may take a year to be pain free. (from various medical sites, including webMD and the Lower Leg Injury Resource Center) Edited July 6, 2016 by Fukurou 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stelios 30 Posted July 7, 2016 Don't forget guys that we have said on this forum time and again that it is more beneficial for a rikishi to remain active during his rehabilitation period, even if intai makes more sense like in Toyonoshima's case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,074 Posted July 7, 2016 Don't forget guys that we have said on this forum time and again that it is more beneficial for a rikishi to remain active during his rehabilitation period, even if intai makes more sense like in Toyonoshima's case. >stelios Fellow Greek? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryoshishokunin 263 Posted July 7, 2016 Don't forget guys that we have said on this forum time and again that it is more beneficial for a rikishi to remain active during his rehabilitation period, even if intai makes more sense like in Toyonoshima's case. It is short-term more beneficial. I'm firmly convinced that rikishi avoiding surgery and/or competing when they shouldn't is a terrible idea for the sport: it leads to uncompetitive matches and they never heal right. Worse yet, it often compounds into other injuries. Drives me nuts. Every other sport encourages people to heal because they knows it's a good idea long-term. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,478 Posted July 7, 2016 Well, hockey players play injured all the time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,931 Posted July 7, 2016 Well, hockey players play injured all the time... Of course, because you have to have a mental injury of some sort to want to actually participate in that sport. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamcornheinz 839 Posted July 7, 2016 I haven't watched for around 3 years but the UFC has to replace every other headline fight because someone gets injured. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unkonoyama 104 Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) I haven't watched for around 3 years but the UFC has to replace every other headline fight because someone gets injured. Or pees hot, thanks Jon Jones. edit: To stay on topic, I hope Toyonoshima recovers and comes back but I am not optimistic, just as I am not optimistic about Aminishiki. That said, I would still be a fan of both even if they dropped to Makushita or lower. Edited July 7, 2016 by Unkonoyama 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sekitori 492 Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) From what I've learned, Toyonoshima's doctors did the right thing. Surgical treatment of an achilles tendon tear will result in quicker healing and prevent future re-rupture of the tendon better than non-surgical methods--which may not work at all. That does not mean that post-surgery healing will occur fairly quickly. As stated before, it can take up to a year to fully recover. Of all sports injuries, concussions and fractured vertebrae are by far the worst. Concussions could cause chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) while damage to the vertebrae could produce paralysis. They can severely affect the quality of life and at worst, they both could eventually be life-threatening. Of all the remaining "less serious" injuries, I can't think more debilitating ones for an athlete to endure than a torn ACL or achilles tendon. That is especially true in a sport like sumo where so much stress is placed on the body of a competitor. Fractured bones will usually heal in time with little or no future consequences. The same cannot be said for severe injuries to the ACL and achilles tendon. I hope Toyonoshima heals as quickly as possible and that his career as a rikishi will continue. I wish him the very best. Edited July 7, 2016 by sekitori 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egparis18 622 Posted July 8, 2016 edit: To stay on topic, I hope Toyonoshima recovers and comes back but I am not optimistic, just as I am not optimistic about Aminishiki. That said, I would still be a fan of both even if they dropped to Makushita or lower. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,900 Posted August 20, 2016 Toyonoshima had the plaster cast removed and for the first time after injury stood on his bare legs again. "It will still take time, but there is definite improvement. Let's walk along with hope." http://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/sports/sumou/583610/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,901 Posted August 23, 2016 And what's with our most loved rikishi, Aminishiki? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted August 23, 2016 I too would like to know how Aminishiki is doing. He is missed. My thoughts are with him and my wishes for his wellbeing and recovery from the latest insult to his knees. The dearth of news is depressing. But I keep telling myself, as long as there is silence, there will be no intai. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egparis18 622 Posted August 23, 2016 He's up and about. There's a pic of him in Rikishi Health Check Pics under Ozumo Discussions. I saw another one recently too, but I forget where it is. Someone will come along and tell you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,809 Posted August 23, 2016 The Isegahama heya Aomori koenkai party Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted August 23, 2016 1 hour ago, rhyen said: The Isegahama heya Aomori koenkai party yes, and it was great to see him standing there. Needless to say that it raised my hopes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,399 Posted September 3, 2016 Out of Aki as well. "This basho will probably be out of the question. I will probably be ready for the next basho," he said. He will be in Makushita next basho. "Well, his recovery is quick and he has the will," said his Oyakata. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 974 Posted September 7, 2016 He's done well sitting out Aki. That injury can't be hurried back. I wish him luck in Makushita. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,399 Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) Toyonoshima intends to return in November and consequently will be demoted to Makushita. He has resumed keiko on the 5th for the first time since his injury and on the 7th even did some shiko. "The minute I put on my mawashi my body gets tense and the sweat pours down. I forget about all pain in my leg. I don't want it to end like this. If I won't be able to win upon my return, I'll think about what to do then.." he added. Toyonoshima using a rubber. Edited September 7, 2016 by Kintamayama 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,074 Posted September 7, 2016 19 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: Toyonoshima using a rubber. So he doesn't want kids? Too bad. He seems like a good father. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,138 Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) Well, to look on the brighter side, perhaps Aminishiki will have a much better chance of grabbing his first yusho (in any division) now that he has to work his way back up from makushita. Edited September 7, 2016 by Katooshu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,399 Posted September 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, Katooshu said: Well, to look on the brighter side, perhaps Aminishiki will have a much better chance of grabbing his first yusho (in any division) now that he has to work his way back up from makushita. He'll have to go through Toyonoshima first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites