rzombie1988 157 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Absolutely hating Ichinojo's lack of belt working and trying to win matches just by size. It's not working and I can seriously see him going 3-13 at this rate. Aoiyama/Kisenosato was a close call. Even though they gave it to Kisenosato, I think this was still a good bout for Aoiyama. It should give him some encouragement that he can be more. Hak's winning move was pure class. Nice to see some effort out of Gagamaru today. Toch just didn't get the grip against Harumafuji today. He got locked out of getting a grip on the belt. Edited November 14, 2015 by rzombie1988 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taresu 38 Posted November 14, 2015 Hakuho - awesome yaguranage Shohozan - uwatenage, move along Hahaha, i didn't mean that, of course shohouzan movement was awesome, it's just so rare to see a yaguranage. i really thought that hakuho had lost that one today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senkoho 552 Posted November 14, 2015 Hakuho - awesome yaguranage Shohozan - uwatenage, move along Hahaha, i didn't mean that, of course shohouzan movement was awesome, it's just so rare to see a yaguranage. i really thought that hakuho had lost that one today. that's not what I meant :) What I meant is that Shohozan's throw looks very similar to Hakuho's (ok, maybe less impressive) but it wasn't called a yaguranage. Or am I completely wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,823 Posted November 14, 2015 What I meant is that Shohozan's throw looks very similar to Hakuho's (ok, maybe less impressive) but it wasn't called a yaguranage. Or am I completely wrong?As far as I see it, Shohozan's leg didn't have contact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurikara 28 Posted November 14, 2015 Almost (Thinking in depth...) But really... why Hakuho can be so awesome :-O Chiyootori vs Shohozan match was a good one. Shohozan looking more like the usual Hakuho in that one. Do you mind if I steal one of these for my profile pic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurikara 28 Posted November 14, 2015 Ok that was pretty cool And the gyoji is clearly looking at the feet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,871 Posted November 14, 2015 Ok that was pretty cool And the gyoji is clearly looking at the feet...His view of Okinoumi's arm hitting was blocked by Hakuho's leg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inhashi 2,363 Posted November 14, 2015 Do you mind if I steal one of these for my profile pic? By all means take it please :) Almost all the pics I post are from twitter and not my own. It can be dl'd either by clicking on the photo or right click for save image as... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,138 Posted November 14, 2015 Gaga-Mitakeumi was fun stuff....really enjoyed watching that. I imagine that it doesn't feel good to have Gaga crashing down on you like that though! Excellent reversal by Hak. I thought it was obvious that he won, so I was very surprised a mono-ii was called until I realised that the gyoji had actually given the win to Okinoumi! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rzombie1988 157 Posted November 14, 2015 You agree that Kise was lucky?No, why? Bad footwork is part of Aoiyama's package. It makes no sense to arbitrarily declare that it's "lucky" when a rikishi is profiting from one particular weakness of an opponent, or when he's profiting from it in a particular way. Kisenosato was pushing and Aoiyama was retreating, and it resulted in a loss for Aoiyama. That's all that happened. On other days Aoiyama's bad footwork means he simply gets bowled over, same thing just with a different outcome. Nobody would claim that's lucky for the opponent. One of the many parts of Aoiyama's package such as being too heavy, lack of balance, lack of actual technique, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
808morgan 805 Posted November 14, 2015 I was hoping and patiently waiting for that gif ;-) Okinoumi's no small man either. Even after eight hours after that match, I'm still amazed by Hakuho's strength and technique. Yeah he is big, Yoshikaze is bigger than I thought, I always thought he was a tad smaller. I have waited outside the Kokugikan and watched them go by, never been near Hakuho etc. because they never go in that way. Okinoumi was pretty intimidating, I thought Tochinoshin looked the scariest, Ichi looks huge in person, I don't know how they move him! Hakuho does have a special body for this, strength and agility just for moving people out of a ring onto the ground.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hakuyobaku 33 Posted November 14, 2015 Shikimori Inosuke isn't going to make Kimura Shōnosuke, is he? Agreed, that was quite a shocking error from the ref. I mean, Hakuho landed on top of Okinoumi, it was plain utchari-like pancaking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted November 14, 2015 Know what? I am cheering for Mitakeumi, he's got tenacity. Also glad my man Osunaarashi was able to get a win after a tough week. Such a good day of sumo, lots of kimarite I had to run back and watch over and over again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurikara 28 Posted November 14, 2015 Ok that was pretty cool And the gyoji is clearly looking at the feet...His view of Okinoumi's arm hitting was blocked by Hakuho's leg. I don't think that's relevant though with Hakuho clearly landing on top of Okinoumi. The only explanation I can find for the error is that he thought Hakuho stepped out, but he's clearly looking at it... So I don't know. A bad moment I guess.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,871 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) His view of Okinoumi's arm hitting was blocked by Hakuho's leg.I don't think that's relevant though with Hakuho clearly landing on top of Okinoumi. The only explanation I can find for the error is that he thought Hakuho stepped out, but he's clearly looking at it... So I don't know. A bad moment I guess..From his angle of view, he probably saw a near simultaneous hit of Hakuho's left knee and Okinoumi's butt. He has to make an immediate call one way or another. No replay or side angle view allowed for him. Edited November 14, 2015 by Asojima Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tenshinhan 1,599 Posted November 14, 2015 The last Makuuchi bout decided by yaguranage was in Nagoya 2009 between Harumafuji and Asashoryu: 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Wolf 24 Posted November 14, 2015 Harumafuji against Wakanoho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMSgwCKOK90 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luispereira 383 Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) damn...I was really missing seeing hakuho in action, and that throw...oh yee...the hak is back:D ps: and a good welcome back to shohozan! keep pushing man! Edited November 15, 2015 by luispereira7cv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tenshinhan 1,599 Posted November 15, 2015 Yeah, nice to see the local heroes Kotoshogiku and Shohozan perform so well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) I, as I am sure many did, watched Hakuho's reversal several times - one thing among many that struck me was that his heel almost touched outside the tamara/straw bales and he managed to re-place his foot to avoid this while being pushed back, and then executing that throw perfectly. It looked as if Hakuho was being overpowered in a way he rarely is and then he proved himself yet again. Though I do agree that Aoiyama's technique (or lack of it) was his downfall, even the commentators watching that bout, specifically the ever loquacious Kotonishiki, were saying that luck is often a factor. Edited November 15, 2015 by Asameshimae Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotogouryuu 126 Posted November 15, 2015 Gaga-Mitakeumi was fun stuff....really enjoyed watching that. I imagine that it doesn't feel good to have Gaga crashing down on you like that though! Excellent reversal by Hak. I thought it was obvious that he won, so I was very surprised a mono-ii was called until I realised that the gyoji had actually given the win to Okinoumi! I like the timing, since just a few days ago some of were commenting how we like Gagamaru and now he does stuff like this. I've said it before: I don't mind Hakuho winning because he keeps giving us these lessons in sumo. What presence of mind and control of body that kind of move takes. Just goes to show, Hakuho is never beaten until he is laying on the clay. This is a magnificent basho. They've been good for a while, but this is really standing out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,480 Posted November 15, 2015 Chiyotairyu is a mystery. How is his health status? On the first four days he lost after a few seconds and his last three bouts he won like a Yokozuna. I am consistently mystified by how Chiyotairyu can go from so bad to so good from day to day. He clearly has the talent - a couple of years ago he was getting kinboshi and mixing it with the Sanyaku, now he is a Juryo-Makuuchi yo-yo rikishi. I wonder if it is physical (I know he has had diabetes issues in the past) or mental (lack of motivation, depression, something like that)? I know that when he wants to go he can go with the best of them and I hope he sorts himself out so he can use his talent to get to where he should be, somewhere around Sanyaku level 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littlebutts 14 Posted November 15, 2015 I've always gotten the impression that a a bunch of the guys from Kokonoe have some serious mental downfalls, but maybe that's based on anecdotal information. Kokonoe oyakata always seemed like he would be a really tough and demanding coach (or person in general). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted November 15, 2015 Asasekiryu just showed up half and therefore just managed a "half-ASAed" henka and lost to Toyohibiki ;-) Good example that more to pull a good juicy sidestep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurikara 28 Posted November 15, 2015 I guess no one told Mitakeumi that Chyootori can literally not be hatakikomi'd. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites