Kintamayama 32,676 Posted July 17, 2015 Oh and it seems like Tochinoshin missed his chance for sanyakuhood with that bit of bad banzuke luck, as I don't see him having a shot at it from a 1-5 score. Last basho, Tochinoshin was 9-6. Guess what his record was after day 6. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 14,460 Posted July 17, 2015 On another note, to quote myself from two months ago: Been wondering this since early in the basho - is it just me or does Toyonoshima look...not quite flabby, but less physically defined than he did only a short while ago? Doesn't seem to be in top shape right now.Not the most auspicious start into the current tournament either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 3,556 Posted July 17, 2015 Toyonoshima's shape is definitely worse than toast at the moment. Does age finally catch up with the former youngster? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,142 Posted July 17, 2015 Endo had his fingers curled around the mawashi, hanging on for dear life as Tokitenku had his toes curled around the tawara, hanging on for dear life. (Laughing...) Do you mean Kotoyuki? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 2,336 Posted July 17, 2015 Oh and it seems like Tochinoshin missed his chance for sanyakuhood with that bit of bad banzuke luck, as I don't see him having a shot at it from a 1-5 score. That's 6 matches against 6 Ozeki and Yokozuna. Only Terunofuji left. Ichinojo he's dominated, Tochiozan is in his stable, and he's probably the favorite against the Komusubi and whatever Maegashira he'll face. Can he win 7 of those? Well, I wouldn't put down even money on it, but I'd say he has at least a 20% chance, possibly more like 30%. And as noted, he did it last basho. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasutera 258 Posted July 17, 2015 Pulling out a tsuri-age in two consecutive matches, Teru is really looking to convince everyone that A) he deserves to be Ozeki, B) he won't have the weak debut commonly expected of one's first Ozeki basho. He's showing off his power and as long as he doesn't get too cocky with it it's going to keep serving him well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CT3* 322 Posted July 18, 2015 Looking forward to the Day 7 match up of Terunofuji vs Goeido! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treblemaker 252 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Speaking of being shot out of a cannon, I really miss Kotomitsuki.. That man fired out of a crouch faster than anyone. But That's how you handle people like Tochinoshin. And if this wasn't the best bout Kise has ever had, it was close to it. Recovered from a flabby henka, and finished the job. And what was Ichinojo thinking? A slow-motion henka is a ticket outtathere... Terunofuji is beginning to look a lot like a cross between Hakuho and Baruto, with the best features of each. Throw in the meaness of Asa and you have the potential of The Next Big Thing. Speaking of which, I miss the manic intensity of Asa. I really do. With HF out, all we have is ballet. And the drinking contest is to see how long Gaga can keep upright before gravity trips him. Late edit: They're starting the Ozeki vs Ozeki battles early, aren't they? And this just in... There's nothing wrong with Hakuho. Yet. Edited July 18, 2015 by Treblemaker 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inhashi 2,362 Posted July 18, 2015 Speaking of being shot out of a cannon, I really miss Kotomitsuki.. That man fired out of a crouch faster than anyone. How thrilling it would be to again...**sigh** 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 2,336 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Late edit: They're starting the Ozeki vs Ozeki battles early, aren't they? It is quite early for them to have Ozeki fights. There's no real need to have them week 1, but it might be a product of having Harumafuji withdraw early and a desire to change their schedule as little as possible; they seem to like to just shuffle things around until they make sense again instead of just redoing everything. In Kyushu 2012, Baruto withdrew after day 2 when there were 7 total Ozeki/Yokozuna, and they ended up having an Ozeki match on Day *6*. Kyushu 2000 also had one that early, but that was more likely due to the 8 Ozeki/Yokozuna and the fact 4 of them were from Musashigawa. Edited July 18, 2015 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 469 Posted July 18, 2015 Speaking of being shot out of a cannon, I really miss Kotomitsuki.. That man fired out of a crouch faster than anyone. How thrilling it would be to again...**sigh** Kotomitsuki is one of the few Japanese rikishi who do the "hip-shake" a la Hakuho to break the opponent's grip on mawashi. It's very effective, but not many do it, guess you'll also need a lot of lower-body strength for it to work well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 14,460 Posted July 18, 2015 It is quite early for them to have Ozeki fights. There's no real need to have them week 1, but it might be a product of having Harumafuji withdraw early and a desire to change their schedule as little as possible; they seem to like to just shuffle things around until they make sense again instead of just redoing everything.It's hard to say if it's intentional or indeed just a remnant of the original 11-sanyaku schedule, but if this ends up as one ozeki-ozeki matchup each on Days 7-10, followed by Hakuho/Kakuryu facing the four ozeki on Days 11-14, it's going to end up more sensible than what they usually produce. But mostly I'm hoping that they at least swap Terunofuji and Goeido, and have Terunofuji face the two yokozuna late rather than early... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inhashi 2,362 Posted July 18, 2015 moved from trivia bits. thought it would be more appropriate here... Rikishi of Foreign Shusshin for Nagoya 2015 Banzuke (excludes Japan natives) 1 Brazil: Kaisei 1 Bulgaria: Aoiyama 1 Canada: Homarenishiki 2 China: Sokokurai, Kosei 1 Egypt: Osunaarashi 2 Georgia: Tochinoshin, Gagamaru 1 Hungary: Masutoo 1 Korea: Shiroryu 2 Russia: Amuru, Orora 1 USA: Musashikuni 26 Mongolia: Hakuho, Harumafuji, Kakuryu, Terunofuji, Ichinojo, Kyokushuho, Tamawashi, Tokitenku, Kyokutenho, Kagamio, Seiro, Takanoiwa, Asasekiryu, Arawashi, Shotenro, Sakigake, Azumaryu, Daishoho, Chiyoshoma, Gochozan, Ryuonami, Takakasuga, Aratoshi, Daionami, Sadahikari, Kiribayama 39 foreign born rikishi total for Nagoya 2015 22 in the top two divisions 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,039 Posted July 18, 2015 Ura has kachi-koshi already, 11 wins and no losses so far in his career (and no in mae-zumo as well). Also the jonidan yusho? - Asayamabana and Daiki are 4-0 as well. This basho Asakanai looks very promising, maybe he profited from Asayamabana giving training advice in the heya? I like his sumo, another one on my list of favorite rikishi. Even more spectacular would be if the jonokuchi yusho goes to Urutora, he has kachi-koshi as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,039 Posted July 18, 2015 Seiro did an echo-bark to Kotoyuki's, but lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mongolith 50 Posted July 18, 2015 Aoi just buried any chance Kise had as he assisted him to his ring side seat. Can't feel bad for Geeku getting henka'ed when he makes it so easy. Goeido actually looked like an ozeki today as I thought Fuji would just maul him. Nice to see Kak keep pace in just his 1st basho back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotogouryuu 100 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Can't feel bad for Geeku getting henka'ed when he makes it so easy. I like Kotoshogiku and would be happy to see him save his rank, but that was not an unsporting henka that ruins the match. That was the obvious move to make when someone charges at you like that. He has to get his position fast to start his bump-drive, but this is not the way. Edited July 18, 2015 by Kotogouryuu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gernobono 338 Posted July 18, 2015 A.... Can't feel bad for Geeku getting henka'ed when he makes it so easy. .... for me the henka of takayasu was just a reaction to the early start of kotoshogiku and not planned from the beginning as he just made a sidestep and no movement towards a hatakikomi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shikona 126 Posted July 18, 2015 As one of the few Goeido fans on the forum, I can't pass up the opportunity to post today. If Terunofuji pulls out the yusho, perhaps a special prize(?). For now I'd be happy to see that elusive ninth win as Ozeki. Go-eido! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikanohara 171 Posted July 18, 2015 As one of the few Goeido fans on the forum, I can't pass up the opportunity to post today. If Terunofuji pulls out the yusho, perhaps a special prize(?). For now I'd be happy to see that elusive ninth win as Ozeki. Go-eido! I still have Goeido quite high on my personal favorites list as well. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treblemaker 252 Posted July 18, 2015 As one of the few Goeido fans on the forum, I can't pass up the opportunity to post today. If Terunofuji pulls out the yusho, perhaps a special prize(?). For now I'd be happy to see that elusive ninth win as Ozeki. Go-eido! I've always liked Goeido. The issue, I think, is that he hasn't made the mental adjustment. Today was vintage Goeido. On the whole, the Ozeki group seems ("seems"), to be capable of doing their job, but again, Kise follows one great bout with a stinker, and Geeku is so highly henka-prone, it's amazing that he isn't "bait-switched" more often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 32,676 Posted July 18, 2015 A.... Can't feel bad for Geeku getting henka'ed when he makes it so easy. .... for me the henka of takayasu was just a reaction to the early start of kotoshogiku and not planned from the beginning as he just made a sidestep and no movement towards a hatakikomi Well, he says the opposite, as you can read on the rikishi talk thread.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 14,460 Posted July 18, 2015 As one of the few Goeido fans on the forum, I can't pass up the opportunity to post today. If Terunofuji pulls out the yusho, perhaps a special prize(?).I suppose it's possible the sansho committee will conclude that Goeido is not a real ozeki anyway and thus eligible for the prizes... 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALAKTORN 346 Posted July 18, 2015 Speaking of being shot out of a cannon, I really miss Kotomitsuki.. That man fired out of a crouch faster than anyone.How thrilling it would be to see something like this again...**sigh**That was insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highway 40 Posted July 18, 2015 Great wins for two of my favourites Aoiyama and Goeido today, so quite happy. Kakuryu looks the best he's ever looked as a yokozuna. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites