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Oho looks poised to start a second stint at Sekiwake without having ever been Komusubi.  This has also been done by the following rikishi in the 6 basho era:

Asahikuni
Kotokaze
Tochiakagi (actually managed THREE stints at Sekiwake before ever being Komusubi)
Daijuyama
Terao
Takanosho (who also was the last rikishi to make Sekiwake just once before ever being Komusubi prior to Oho doing it recently)

And technically Terunofuji, though due to being promoted rather than being demoted in between.

At first I thought it was going to be much rarer, as the nearly the first page of results of all the Sekiwake promotions in this time period had no one promoted to Sekiwake while having highest prior rank maegashira had done it, but then the first four on the list all did it with no one else in this situation not doing it.  So now that we've had two in a row, it looks like a rather streaky phenomenon, with only Terao not part of a streak among those whose first stint ended in demotion.

https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&showhighest=on&form1_year=>1955&form2_rank=s&form2_debutr=on&offset=50

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This may have been discussed already (apologies): Who was the last Yokozuna before Onosato without make-koshi before promotion? Terukuni, or Musashiyama, or neither?

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10 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

This may have been discussed already (apologies): Who was the last Yokozuna before Onosato without make-koshi before promotion? Terukuni, or Musashiyama, or neither?

Terukuni had a MK in Juryo.  I checked everyone else back to Musashiyama and found at least one MK before promotion.  The closest after that was Musashimaru, who had one lower division MK but none as a sekitori before hitting Yokozuna, which was quite an amazing streak considering how long he was Ozeki.

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https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=3661 is the most recent career-high Ozeki I found that was promoted to Ozeki without a prior MK in the historical record depending on how you count a 2-1-2a, but that's hardly saying much.  He could easily have had a lower division MK outside the historical record.

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13 hours ago, Gurowake said:

Terukuni had a MK in Juryo.

Oopsie - didn't spot that 6-7.

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Aonishiki's 44 wins in his first 4 Makuuchi basho is the highest total in the six-basho era, and the second-highest ever, trailing only Terukuni in 1939. Even 40+ is very rare, previously accomplished only by Taiho (41), Hakuho (43), and Onosato (43).

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27 minutes ago, Reonito said:

Aonishiki's 44 wins in his first 4 Makuuchi basho is the highest total in the six-basho era, and the second-highest ever, trailing only Terukuni in 1939. Even 40+ is very rare, previously accomplished only by Taiho (41), Hakuko (43), and Onosato (43).

Takerufuji got to 42 if we omit his 2nd basho full kyujo. So he got to 40+ in his first 4 appearances really. I was wondering if there was some madman who had a bad debut basho and a demotion to juryo and then lit makuuchi up when he got back, but I cannot find a way to try to query that.

Also, big Hakuko fan here :-P

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5 minutes ago, Oskanohana said:

Also, big Hakuko fan here :-P

Surprisingly, that hasn't been used as a shikona, though there is a Kakuho

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10 minutes ago, Oskanohana said:

Takerufuji got to 42 if we omit his 2nd basho full kyujo. So he got to 40+ in his first 4 appearances really. I was wondering if there was some madman who had a bad debut basho and a demotion to juryo and then lit makuuchi up when he got back, but I cannot find a way to try to query that.

Removing the division debut and conditioning on the prior basho being in juryo instead only added Terunofuji (45) and WTK (40) during their comebacks.

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