Sakura 1,224 Posted September 23, 2022 On 11/04/2018 at 00:02, Sakura said: Sorry if this has been done before. I couldn't find it anywhere. I've been intrigued by W-L-A results that are palindromes. I restricted my search to sekitori during the 15 days per basho era and have come up with the following 2-11-2 - 9 instances. Most recently Juzan in 2003. A mixture of mid-basho absence and withdrawing on Day 13. 3-9-3 - 19 instances. Most recently, Aminishiki in January 2018. More mid basho absences than one might imagine. 4-7-4 - 18 instances. Most recently, Sotairyu in 2015. Intriguingly, Kotoyutaka had a fusen loss on Day 9, then returned on Day 14 and got a win, by fusen. 5-5-5 - 11 instances. Most recently, Kyokushuho in 2013. 6 Yokozuna results in this one, including 2 by Asashoryu. 6-3-6 - 6 instances. Most recently, Aoiyama in 2012. 7-1-7 - 0 instances. The above palindromic W-L-A records have been updated (not in the original which was set to end in 2018). Since the last post we have an extra 3-9-3 by Endo in Aki 2020. 4-7-4 by Azumaryu in last basho's COVID interuptions. 5-5-5. The one that promted the requery. I noticed that Terunofuji is about to end 5-5-5, but Endo also managed it in Haru this year. A 6-3-6 was also produced last basho. This time by Ichiyamamoto. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 438 Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Yamanashi said: I wish I had been there to see the legendary bout that settled the Triangle Bragging Rights. Wakakusa went 6-0-1d in the end, losing out on the yusho despite being undefeated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faustonowaka 66 Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) Two brothers in the sanyaku sorio-bumi togehther (Wakatakakage and Wakamotoharu). I guess it has been a while since that last happened… maybe with two other Waka-Taka brothers… edit: Hatsu 1999 Edited September 24, 2022 by Faustonowaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 242 Posted September 24, 2022 Wakatakakage and Wakamotoharu are Tamawashi's only two losses this basho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 2,821 Posted September 24, 2022 2 hours ago, shimodahito said: Wakatakakage and Wakamotoharu are Tamawashi's only two losses this basho. FYI, Tamawashi-Sokokurai 6-4 career record, so no bad blood there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 3,318 Posted September 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Yamanashi said: 2 hours ago, shimodahito said: Wakatakakage and Wakamotoharu are Tamawashi's only two losses this basho. FYI, Tamawashi-Sokokurai 6-4 career record, so no bad blood there. Both Ōnami brothers proved more resilient to the nodowa than everyone else. Is that Sōkokurai's secret sauce? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitetsu 143 Posted September 26, 2022 Aki 2022 was the first time since Hatsu 2018 (coincidentaly, Tochinoshin's maiden Yusho) that Kasugano stable had 4 sekitori. With the almost certain demotion of Tochimaru back to Makushita, I theorize that it will be a long while until Kasugano gets 4 sekitori again, not even counting that both Tochinoshin and Aoiyama may be looking at retirement in the not-so distant future... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,150 Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Kaitetsu said: Aki 2022 was the first time since Hatsu 2018 (coincidentaly, Tochinoshin's maiden Yusho) that Kasugano stable had 4 sekitori. With the almost certain demotion of Tochimaru back to Makushita, I theorize that it will be a long while until Kasugano gets 4 sekitori again, not even counting that both Tochinoshin and Aoiyama may be looking at retirement in the not-so distant future... This seems like a dangerous bet with Tsukahara threatening to get to Juryo pretty soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 10,485 Posted October 8, 2022 I forgot to post this in the basho thread at the time - Takayasu had the second-longest wait between kinboshi, with his fifth coming 46 basho after the fourth. That's one basho short of the record held by Kirinji. Rikishi Basho Prev. Kinboshi Next Kinboshi 1) Kirinji 47 1980 Nagoya 1988 Natsu 2) Takayasu 46 2014 Kyushu 2022 Aki 3) Wakanosato 45 1998 Kyushu 2006 Natsu 4) Daizen 42 1994 Kyushu 2001 Kyushu 5) Onishiki 41 1974 Kyushu 1981 Aki 6) Aminishiki 39 2009 Natsu 2016 Hatsu 7) Jingaku 38 1984 Aki 1991 Hatsu 8) Dewanohana 36 1979 Aki 1985 Aki =) Akinoshima 36 1993 Nagoya 1999 Nagoya 10) Arase 35 1974 Haru 1980 Hatsu Dropping out of the top ten: Nayoroiwa 33 1938 Hatsu 1952 Aki Wakachichibu 33 1959 Hatsu 1964 Nagoya Tochinowaka 33 1991 Nagoya 1997 Hatsu Myogiryu 33 2013 Natsu 2018 Kyushu 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 34,218 Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Off-topic trivia quiz: What is the/a Musashimaru disaster dic.nicovideo.jp/a/武蔵丸の悲劇? It has now made it to trend-word because the fans of the TV Tokyo anime SPY×FAMILY yesterday suffered a similar fate due to the broadcast extension of the table tennis word championships: the show was delayed and the timer for the video recording went astray: the end of the show was missing for those who hadn't adjusted it o The original 3/21 incident was day 10 of the Haru basho 2000, the sumo broadcast on NHK was extended for 4 minutes and the bout shown in those minutes was Musashimaru-Takanonami: The final episode of the anime Cardcaptor Sakura on BS-2 was affected - many fans hadn't recorded the end and the talk afterwards, instead they first saw Musashimaru. https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8944541?via=thumb_watch&at=title&state=unplayed&ref=www.slangeigo.com Edited October 9, 2022 by Akinomaki 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoshotakamoto 55 Posted October 9, 2022 I just noticed these two guys have a bit of momentum going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 2,821 Posted October 9, 2022 13 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Off-topic trivia quiz: What is the/a Musashimaru disaster dic.nicovideo.jp/a/武蔵丸の悲劇? It has now made it to trend-word because the fans of the TV Tokyo anime SPY×FAMILY yesterday suffered a similar fate due to the broadcast extension of the table tennis word championships: the show was delayed and the timer for the video recording went astray: the end of the show was missing for those who hadn't adjusted it o The original 3/21 incident was day 10 of the Haru basho 2000, the sumo broadcast on NHK was extended for 4 minutes and the bout shown in those minutes was Musashimaru-Takanonami: The final episode of the anime Cardcaptor Sakura on BS-2 was affected - many fans hadn't recorded the end and the talk afterwards, instead they first saw Musashimaru. https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8944541?via=thumb_watch&at=title&state=unplayed&ref=www.slangeigo.com Heidi Bowl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerboy1966 948 Posted October 10, 2022 On 26/09/2022 at 15:35, Doitsuyama said: On 26/09/2022 at 13:50, Kaitetsu said: Aki 2022 was the first time since Hatsu 2018 (coincidentaly, Tochinoshin's maiden Yusho) that Kasugano stable had 4 sekitori. With the almost certain demotion of Tochimaru back to Makushita, I theorize that it will be a long while until Kasugano gets 4 sekitori again, not even counting that both Tochinoshin and Aoiyama may be looking at retirement in the not-so distant future... This seems like a dangerous bet with Tsukahara threatening to get to Juryo pretty soon. ...and don't forget Tochikamiyama. He looks a bright prospect to make sekitori in the next year or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 40,115 Posted October 22, 2022 If someone other than the five guys who got the yusho this year gets it in Kyushu; it will be the third time that six different rikishi get the yusho in a calendar year since the advent of the six basho year in 1958. It happened in 1972 and 1991 . It also happened in 2020, but there was no basho in May. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 597 Posted October 30, 2022 As far as I can tell, this is the first time that the "Christmas tree" banzuke pattern of 1 Y, 2 O, 3 S and 4 K has ever happened. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 3,318 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Reonito said: As far as I can tell, this is the first time that the "Christmas tree" banzuke pattern of 1 Y, 2 O, 3 S and 4 K has ever happened. On the fourth day of Christmas the shimpan sent to me Four komusubi, three sekiwake, two wobbly ōzeki and a yokozuna with a bum knee~ (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Edited October 30, 2022 by Seiyashi 6 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 597 Posted October 30, 2022 Also, Mitakeumi is now in sole possession of 7th place for most sekiwake appearances with 18 (7 shy of #1 Tamagaki), and 6th place for lower sanyaku appearances, with 28 (6 shy of #1 Kotonishiki). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 177 Posted November 7, 2022 The Nishonoseki twins Hayashiryu and Rinko have now competed in 3 tournaments and produced 3 identical records, holding neighbouring ranks for 4 banzuke. Hayashiryu Ryu 2022.03 Bg 0-0 171 cm 129 kg 2022.05 Jk17e 4-3 2022.07 Jd84w 6-1 2022.09 Jd10w 4-3 2022.11 Sd80w 0-0 Rinko Yoshikazu 2022.03 Bg 0-0 172 cm 118 kg 2022.05 Jk17w 4-3 2022.07 Jd85e 6-1 2022.09 Jd11e 4-3 2022.11 Sd81e 0-0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 3,318 Posted November 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Yarimotsu said: The Nishonoseki twins Hayashiryu and Rinko have now competed in 3 tournaments and produced 3 identical records, holding neighbouring ranks for 4 banzuke. Well, let's hope they keep it up to makuuchi, then it's easier to play GTB 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 5,284 Posted November 7, 2022 If only Rinko would put on some weight (10 or 12kg) so that they could be 1cm and 1kg apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,150 Posted November 16, 2022 This is only the second time that all makuuchi rikishi have a loss after day 4. The only other time was Kyushu 1969 and there were only 34 makuuchi rikishi back then. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 2,821 Posted November 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Doitsuyama said: This is only the second time that all makuuchi rikishi have a loss after day 4. The only other time was Kyushu 1969 and there were only 34 makuuchi rikishi back then. And only one kyujo. A somewhat dubious achievement, perhaps. The good news is that many options are still open , and we can start moving some scenarios over from Ridiculous Predictions to the basho thread. Personally, I'd like to see a playoff between Ichiyamamoto and Abi, to see if they set a Guiness World's tsuppari record. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 4,840 Posted November 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Doitsuyama said: This is only the second time that all makuuchi rikishi have a loss after day 4. The only other time was Kyushu 1969 and there were only 34 makuuchi rikishi back then. ...and yet there's a 4-0 rikishi on the day 5 makuuchi torikumi. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 177 Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) Today, Asanoyama defeated Tokushoryu in a Juryo bout. This is the first time that two winners of the Emperor's Cup have faced off in Juryo. After an inefficient but hopefully thorough search, I have determined that the only Makuuchi winners who subsequently dropped to lower divisions were Wakanami (Yusho in 1968, J in 1969), Tagaryu (Yusho in 1984, J in 1988-91), Kotofuji (Yusho in 1991, J in 1994-5), Mitoizumi (Yusho in 1992, J in 1999-2000), Takatoriki (Yusho in 2000, J in 2001-2), Terunofuji (Yusho in 2017, J and lower 2018-2020), Tokushoryu (Yusho in 2020, J in 2021-22) and Asanoyama (Yusho in 2019, J and lower in 2022). EDIT: As Asashosakari pointed out, Bishuyama (1955), Takamiyama (1984) and Kotonishiki (2000) also competed in a juryo tournament before retiring and there are others who dropped but did not compete. Nagoya and Kyushu 2000 are therefore the only other tournament where two former Emperor's Cup winners competed on the Juryo torikumi - Kotonishiki at J1 in both did not face Mitoizumi, who competed at J7 and J11. Edited November 19, 2022 by Yarimotsu 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 16,696 Posted November 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Yarimotsu said: Today, Asanoyama defeated Tokushoryu in a Juryo bout. This is the first time that two winners of the Emperor's Cup have faced off in Juryo. After an inefficient but hopefully thorough search, I have determined that the only Makuuchi winners who subsequently dropped to lower divisions were Wakanami (Yusho in 1968, J in 1969), Tagaryu (Yusho in 1984, J in 1988-91), Kotofuji (Yusho in 1991, J in 1994-5), Mitoizumi (Yusho in 1992, J in 1999-2000), Terunofuji (Yusho in 2017, J and lower 2018-2020), Tokushoryu (Yusho in 2020, J in 2021-22) and Asanoyama (Yusho in 2019, J and lower in 2022). This is therefore the first time that two former Emperor's Cup winners competed in lower divisions at the same time and the first time such a matchup could occur. I do believe that list is short of a few names. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites