Trivia bits

[Benevolance 2,271]

I don't have anything useful to add to the thread, but I really like these trivia bits. Please don't stop as long as you enjoy doing it.

[d_golem 213]

Same here, I enjoy reading this thread whenever new bits of trivia comes up. Wish I could contribute but I neither have the deep knowledge of sumo nor the capacity to operate sumodb queries to add anything of substance here.

[Kishinoyama 493]

This rikishi - http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=1285- spent 45 tournaments in Juryo and only four as a Maegashira. Is 45 the most juryo tournaments ever for a rikishi? I am not very good at database searching....

[Gurowake 3,485]

Rikishi with at least 40 Juryo basho. Unsurprisingly, I've not heard of most of them. The most has been 55. Active rikishi with the most is Tamaasuka, with 39. Satoyama with 34 is the only other active above 30.

In contrast to those 25, there are 180 who have that many Makuuchi basho. The change in quality of competition from the bottom of Makuuchi to the top of Makushita is quite small compared to the change in competition within Makuuchi, leading to a lot of people bouncing around between divisions, along either two borders or sometimes among all three divisions, while there are plenty of others who become very long-lasting Makuuchi rikishi..

Edited June 5, 2016 by Gurowake

[Atenzan 1,074]

Kisenosato now has 10 makuuchi jun-yusho and no makuuchi yusho. He is the only rikishi in recorded history to do this. Second in line is Futahaguro with 7 jun-yusho and, famously, no cup.

Among the rikishi who have 10 jun-yusho to their name, everyone else (13 rikishi excluding Kisenosato) has at least five cups. Kaiou (5 yusho, 11 jun-yusho) is the only one of them to have never made yokozuna.

Kisenosato is also the only rikishi in recorded history with 6 or more jun-yusho and no yusho or yusho-doten. There have been 37 rikishi with 6 or more jun-yusho.

Lastly, of the 51 rikishi that have 5 or more jun-yusho, Kisenosato and Goueidou are the only two with no yusho or yusho-doten.

[Hakuyobaku 32]

Can someone remind me of the thread/question of given lower division rikishi scheduled to appear on the same exact days every single basho? (I believe it was like 2-4-7-8-10-11-13 or similar)? Did that mystery got solved?

Edited June 5, 2016 by Hakuyobaku

[Atenzan 1,074]

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=237

Still remains unsolved, but interestingly enough he fought on day 5 for the first time in six years the last yime around.

[Asashosakari 16,848]

Can someone remind me of the thread/question of given lower division rikishi scheduled to appear on the same exact days every single basho? (I believe it was like 2-4-7-8-10-11-13 or similar)? Did that mystery got solved?

Last seen here.

That stuff about lots of juryo tournaments reminded me of a bit of trivia I compiled back in 2008 and probably never posted. Surprisingly - or maybe not - there have been no changes to the list since then, other than a couple of then-active rikishi extending their numbers. Rikishi with the most makuuchi basho who had even more juryo basho (or in one case exactly the same):

51-55 Oshio

35-41 Daizen

32-37 Wakanoyama

31-42 Wakajishi

30-45 Otsukasa

30-40 Toyonoumi

30-33 Tamaryu

29-44 Futatsuryu

26-50 Dairyugawa

26-41 Tsunenishiki

26-35 Hoshikabuto

26-29 Oginohana

26-28 Yoshinomine

25-33 Hidanohana

24-38 Tamakiyama

24-26 Hananokuni

24-24 Tochinohana

23-41 Wakanokuni

23-31 Daishi

23-26 Chiyotenzan

21-34 Wakasugiyama

21-30 Osegawa

21-29 Kiminishiki

20-36 Kasuganishiki

20-32 Wakanaruto

20-27 Yoshakayama

20-21 Masurao

Sadanofuji is currently closest to breaking into that club - he already has the hard part done with 21 makuuchi tournaments (and will probably not be adding that many more) and is also at 15 juryo basho already.

The inverse list of rikishi with the most juryo basho and even more makuuchi basho is somewhat less interesting; they're mostly top division mainstays who either needed a bit of time to break through juryo or had a very long decline phase that padded out their juryo totals.

[Atenzan 1,074]

Akinomaki, I believe it was, reported that sototasukizori is the most obscure kimarite- neither he nor myself or any of the 10 000 surveyed Japanese had heard of it. I don't blame us: it's hard to be familiar with a kimarite that, for all we know, the world has never seen.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&kimarite=73

[RabidJohn 1,232]

Do they have names for purely hypothetical kimarite? Surely sototasukizori must have been used at some point in the dim and distant past for it to have been given a name...

On a related theme, Wikipedia tells me that only Mainoumi has used mitokorozeme "in the modern era". Does anyone know if it existed before he used it, or did he invent it?

Here's a vid, for anyone unaware of the "triple attack force out":

[Yubinhaad 10,615]

On a related theme, Wikipedia tells me that only Mainoumi has used mitokorozeme "in the modern era". Does anyone know if it existed before he used it, or did he invent it?

Mainoumi certainly didn't invent it and he wasn't the first in the modern era either. To date he is the only sekitori to have used it in the Heisei era (which is probably what Wikipedia means to say). Since he used it for the last time there have been eight more in the lower divisions.

Kitataiki is the only active rikishi who has a mitokorozeme win to his name.

Edited June 9, 2016 by Yubinhaad

[Atenzan 1,074]

There are more than twice as many foreigners in Makuuchi than there are foreigners in any other division, as of Natsu 2016.

Makuuchi: 16 foreigners

Juryo: 5 foreigners

Makushita: 8 foreigners

Sandanme: 8 foreigners, 1 of which intaied in May.

Jonidan: 0 foreigners

Jonokuchi:1 foreigner

Foreigner-only banzuke: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=201605&heya=-1&shusshin=202

Edited June 12, 2016 by McBugger

[Atenzan 1,074]

No foreigners in Jonidan

In Natsu 2016, there were no jonidan-ranked foreigners (cf. post 113).

Post-yaocho (2011.05 through 2016.05) this has happened in 16 out of the 31 basho, or 51.6% of the time.

However, in the 67 basho from the start of the millennium up to the yaocho scandal, this happened only **once**. That basho was Haru 09.

Haru 09 banzuke with movement and highlighted foreigners: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=200903&heya=-1&shusshin=-1&spr=on&snr=on&fc=on

Query source: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&shusshin=202&group_by=basho&g_op==&having=0&form1_jd=on&offset=500

Edited June 12, 2016 by McBugger

[Atenzan 1,074]

MORE fun with foreigners! This has turned out to be a very educational Sunday morning so far.

In the past 10 years, foreigners have won more Makuuchi yusho (58) than they have won yusho of all the other divisions combined (54).

List of all 58 foreigner Makuuchi yusho of the past 10 years: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&shusshin=202&form1_year=200607-201605&form1_y=on&form1_m=on

List of all 54 foreigner lower division yusho of the past 10 years: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&shusshin=202&form1_year=200607-201605&form1_y=on&form1_j=on&form1_ms=on&form1_sd=on&form1_jd=on&form1_jk=on

GAME: On banzuke day, there is a very big chance that we will see the all-time record for "most ________ ______ in a calendar year since 198_" be broken. Fill in the blanks and win a real life prize! Edit: this is officially a thing. See the Off-Topic section for more details or PM me your guess now! (but DON'T REPLY with your guess IN ANY THREAD or you will be disqualified)

Edited June 12, 2016 by McBugger

[Gurowake 3,485]

Do you know who was the only (former) Sekiwake in the 6-basho era who did not (ever) win a Sansho? http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=1378

Btw, Wikipedia has a death date for him that's not in the database.

Edited June 19, 2016 by Gurowake

[Asashosakari 16,848]

Btw, Wikipedia has a death date for him that's not in the database.

That is/was actually pretty controversial, see here. Was there ever reliable confirmation? The site that was given as reference seems to be one where anyone can submit death dates.

Edit: The reference to Sumo magazine is still the source in the Japanese version, and the content has slightly expanded, but I can't tell if the people who added to the death section actually confirmed it with the claimed source themselves or if it's just a game of telephone.

Edited June 19, 2016 by Asashosakari

[Benihana 1,719]

Most consecutive yusho without being a yokozuna?

In 2014 Tochinoshin scored 4 yusho in a row, 2 in makushita and 2 in juryo. Is there anyone else who did this or even better?

[Katooshu 2,402]

Most consecutive yusho without being a yokozuna?

In 2014 Tochinoshin scored 4 yusho in a row, 2 in makushita and 2 in juryo. Is there anyone else who did this or even better?

Former ozeki and college standout Miyabiyama started his career with the same combo---2 in makushita then 2 in juryo.

[Asashosakari 16,848]

Most consecutive yusho without being a yokozuna?

In 2014 Tochinoshin scored 4 yusho in a row, 2 in makushita and 2 in juryo. Is there anyone else who did this or even better?

Former ozeki and college standout Miyabiyama started his career with the same combo---2 in makushita then 2 in juryo.

Early modern era yokozuna Haguroyama is the all-time leader, having opened his career with 5 straight yusho.

[Benihana 1,719]

Impressive. Thanks!

[Atenzan 1,074]

Record confirmed- contest over: 2016 is the year with most Sekiwake debuts since 1984. Yoshikaze, Kotoyuuki, Ikioi and now Tochinoshin and Kaisei. 1984 had a whopping 7 debuts- there is still time...

[Atenzan 1,074]

Tochinoshin just got disqualified from the opportunity to hold the record for most Komusubi appearances without making Sekiwake. The record stands at 10 (http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=3980, http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=3434) throughout the history of sumo. These two are tied at first with 10; Tochinoshin had 7, right on their heels.

[Atenzan 1,074]

Hakuhou is the only rikishi to have a zensho yusho in each of the six modern-era basho.

The most zensho yusho by a single rikishi in a specific modern-era basho is 4. Only Hakuhou, only May.

[Atenzan 1,074]

A maegashira ranked in the top 16 of makuuchi has started a honbasho 8-0 (zensho-kachikoshi) only once in the modern era. It was Akinoshima in March 1992.

Upper san'yaku was so empty that basho that the only yaku-rikishi he faced in the first 8 days were S1e Akebono, K1e Tochinowaka and eventual yusho winner O1e Konishiki. The only yokozuna, Hokutoumi, went kyujo on mikka-me and Akinoshima lost to the only other ozeki, Kirishima, on day 9.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=9&b=199203

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&day=8&rank1=M&wins1=8

Edited July 13, 2016 by McBugger

[Gurowake 3,485]

Seiro managed to get promoted to Makuuchi despite having a losing record (87-93) during his continuous 12-basho stint in Juryo. There's plenty of banzuke luck to be had in Juryo as long as you don't get demoted.

After Nagoya 2016 Day 4, Seiro finally has a winning record in Juryo for the first time since his initial KK in his debut. It's taken two demotions from Makuuchi to enable it though, and he's still -5 overall as a sekitori (as of Day 5).

Edited July 15, 2016 by Gurowake