Nantonoyama 246 Posted January 14, 2019 Kisenosato lost the last 7 bouts he actually showed up on the dohyo (day 15 of Aki 2018, days 1-4 of Kyushu 2018 and days 1-2 of Hatsu 2019). As far as the database goes (early 20th century), only Yokozuna Takanohana lost 7 bouts in a row as a Yokozuna (days 12-15 of Nagoya 1999, days 1-2 of Aki 1999 and day 1 of Kyushu 1999) If Kisenosato goes on tomorrow he could set a new all-time record-you-do-not-want-to-have 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nantonoyama 246 Posted January 14, 2019 32 minutes ago, Nantonoyama said: Kisenosato lost the last 7 bouts he actually showed up on the dohyo (day 15 of Aki 2018, days 1-4 of Kyushu 2018 and days 1-2 of Hatsu 2019). As far as the database goes (early 20th century), only Yokozuna Takanohana lost 7 bouts in a row as a Yokozuna (days 12-15 of Nagoya 1999, days 1-2 of Aki 1999 and day 1 of Kyushu 1999) For the sake of comparison, the 7 opponents were, Kisenosato = 1O, 2K, 4M Takanohana = 2Y, 1O, 2K, 2M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,786 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Don't think I've ever mentioned this before: Fukuzono (Prompted by Shuji who is currently four deep into that run.) Edited January 14, 2019 by Asashosakari 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,074 Posted January 15, 2019 Kisenosato hasn't actually beaten anyone on day 13 of a honbasho since March 2016. Since then he's 1-6-9 with a fusensho on the final Friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nantonoyama 246 Posted January 15, 2019 And this is a new record. Never had, in recorded history, a Yokozuna lost 8 bouts in a row. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,815 Posted January 15, 2019 And while we're at it, there have never been so many losses by Y-O after day 3:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&having=8&day=1,2,3&rank1=y,o&onlyl1=on 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nantonoyama 246 Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: And while we're at it, there have never been so many losses by Y-O after day 3:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&having=8&day=1,2,3&rank1=y,o&onlyl1=on The margin is amazing. Even more considering Takayasu's win and Hakuho day 2 win are really super super lucky ones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,807 Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Nantonoyama said: The margin is amazing. Even more considering Takayasu's win and Hakuho day 2 win are really super super lucky ones It's already more than the record for 4 days and they haven't even fought that yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 1,989 Posted January 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Nantonoyama said: The margin is amazing. Even more considering Takayasu's win and Hakuho day 2 win are really super super lucky ones Which somewhat emphasizes the concept of variance and statistical outliers. With all likelyhood, we won't see a result like this again in our lifetime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,726 Posted January 15, 2019 On 14/01/2019 at 16:46, Asashosakari said: Don't think I've ever mentioned this before: Fukuzono (Prompted by Shuji who is currently four deep into that run.) The reverse of that (the "lightbulb turns on" award?) would be 0-7 to 1-6 etc. The longest string I can see is 1-6, 2-5, 3-4, 4-3, 5-2; performed by 9 rikishi, the last one Shobushi starting in 11/2016. How close did any of these guys come to 6-1 in the next basho? Only one of them even made 5 wins, the aforementioned Shobushi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,815 Posted January 16, 2019 20 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: And while we're at it, there have never been so many losses by Y-O after day 3:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&having=8&day=1,2,3&rank1=y,o&onlyl1=on Update:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&having=10&day=1,2,3,4&rank1=y,o&onlyl1=on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamitsuumi 384 Posted January 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: Update:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&having=10&day=1,2,3,4&rank1=y,o&onlyl1=on One bout off the 6-day record, with 2 days to go... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,074 Posted January 19, 2019 Hokutofuji is only the third sekitori ever to get back-to-back fusensho. The other two instances were through pairs of yokozuna going kyujo: -Haru 1999, M5w Tochinonada wins by fusen against Wakanohana and Takanohana, days 10-11 -Aki 1999, M1w Tamakasuga wins by fusen against Takanohana and Akebono, days 3-4 All 51 fusen matchups of the 25 sekitori basho with multiple fusensho 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,901 Posted January 19, 2019 What's the most yusho/heya in a single basho? Has there ever been a clean sweep of all divisions by a single heya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,546 Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Benihana said: What's the most yusho/heya in a single basho? Has there ever been a clean sweep of all divisions by a single heya? I looked into this myself some years back, although I only went back to the start of the seven-bouts-per-basho for lower divisions in 1960. Since then my notes say there have been 8 basho in which 50% of the yusho were won by rikishi from one heya, most recently Onomatsu-beya in 2008 Kyushu. 1961 Aki - Nishonoseki1961 Kyushu - Tokitsukaze1963 Nagoya - Tokitsukaze1967 Aki - Kasugano1972 Aki - Hanakago1984 Haru - Takasago1997 Nagoya - Kitanoumi2008 Kyushu - Onomatsu 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,074 Posted January 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said: most recently Onomatsu-beya in 2008 Kyushu. Sadly those three yusho winners combined went 1-2-12 as sekitori. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,726 Posted January 19, 2019 Kisenosato's intai leaves five rikishi from the old Narutobeya (now Tagonoura): Adachi (33), highest rank Sd74 Awajiumi (25), Sd7 Sekizuka (21), Sd81 Takayasu (28), O Terunosato (40), Sd23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 1,989 Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) We are so much used to Hakuho smashing every record, we tend to forget about the extent of his lead in certain categories. Today, Hakuho secured his (Makuuchi) KK on Nakabi for the 46th time. Which is utterly insane. Here's the top 5 with a couple of comments: 46 Hakuho achieved participating in 83 basho (sit-outs excluded) -> 55.42% 1x as Sekiwake, 1xOzeki, rest Y at least one Makuuchi Nakabi KK in every single year between 2006 and 2019 (both including) five years with five Nakabi KKs (four of which in consecutive years 11-14) only person ever to achieve at least five Nakabi KKs in a single year (six has never happened) 25 Chiyonofuji in 75 basho -> 33.33% 2xSekiwake at least one Nakabi KK in each year 1980-1990 23 Asashoryu in 52 basho -> 44.23% 1xSekiwake, 3xOzeki most likely (I didn't really know how to check this) the only one ever to achieve a Nakabi KK in every single basho fought as an Ozeki (3/3) at least one Nakabi KK in each year 2002-2009 22 Taiho in 64 basho -> 34.38% 1xMaegashira, 1xSekiwake, 1xOzeki at least one Nakabi KK in each year 1960-1969 and 1971 20 Kitanoumi in 74 basho -> 27.03% 1xSekiwake, 2xOzeki at least one Nakabi KK in each year 1974-1975, 1977-1981 and 1984 Here's the query. Edited January 20, 2019 by yorikiried by fate error and bracket 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamitsuumi 384 Posted January 21, 2019 4 hours ago, yorikiried by fate said: most likely (I didn't really know how to check this) the only one ever to achieve a Nakabi KK in every single basho fought as an Ozeki (3/3) He is the only one since 1958. Futabayama's two bashos as Ozeki (Jan, May 1937) were both zensho-yusho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,433 Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Kamitsuumi said: He is the only one since 1958. Futabayama's two bashos as Ozeki (Jan, May 1937) were both zensho-yusho. But as those were basho of 11 and 13 bouts, the KKs were secured on days 6 and 7 respectively. I suppose that’s still technically ‘nakabi’ but not quite the same as a streak of 8 wins (although I fully appreciate that in his particular case they were part of his record win streak). Edited January 21, 2019 by Eikokurai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,786 Posted January 21, 2019 On 19/01/2019 at 14:22, Yubinhaad said: I looked into this myself some years back, although I only went back to the start of the seven-bouts-per-basho for lower divisions in 1960. Since then my notes say there have been 8 basho in which 50% of the yusho were won by rikishi from one heya, most recently Onomatsu-beya in 2008 Kyushu. An extended search unsurprisingly turns up a ton of pre-WWII Dewanoumi results, led by this near-sweep in October 1927. Also another 7 basho with 4 divisional yusho between 1914 and 1928. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,472 Posted February 3, 2019 On 10/04/2018 at 22:02, Sakura said: 3-9-3 - 19 instances. Most recently, Aminishiki in January 2018. More mid basho absences than one might imagine. 4-7-4 - 18 instances. Most recently, Sotairyu in 2015. Intriguingly, Kotoyutaka had a fusen loss on Day 9, then returned on Day 14 and got a win, by fusen. Updating the above palindromic W-L-A. I noticed Kotoyuki had a 4-7-4 this past basho, but Hokutofuji had one back in May bringing the total to 20. Of the 3-9-3 we also now have Akua and Kaisei for three in 2018 alone bringing that up to 21 total instances. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nantonoyama 246 Posted February 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Sakura said: Updating the above palindromic W-L-A. I noticed Kotoyuki had a 4-7-4 this past basho, but Hokutofuji had one back in May bringing the total to 20. Of the 3-9-3 we also now have Akua and Kaisei for three in 2018 alone bringing that up to 21 total instances. Kaisei's one last Kyushu being particularly original. Mirroring the mid-basho absences, he went on mid-basho presence (absent days 1, 2, 15, fusen day 14) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,786 Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) Hatsu 2019 set a new all-time record for the number of sekitori who achieved kachikoshi while not completing the full tournament. Edited February 7, 2019 by Asashosakari 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,922 Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&year=>1950&day=14&m=on&wins1=8&offset=350 This is the first time since 1964 that there have been 0 Makuuchi rikishi with 8 wins after Day 14. It's hard to tell how often it happened before then because of the limitations of working with the bout database to search for this occurrence. As one might expect, no Makuuchi rikishi with 7 wins after Day 14 has never happened in the 6-basho year. But there have been as few as 1, most recently in 2000. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&year=>1950&day=14&m=on&wins1=7&offset=350 Edited March 24, 2019 by Gurowake 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites