Trivia bits

[torquato 1,075]

1 minute ago, Yamanashi said:

Ah, yes, I forgot about that one. Named for that little fishing village where they make all those chopsticks

Yes, exactly. But I forgot about the chopsticks…

[Benihana 1,929]

Aminishiki now is the oldest and the second oldest rikishi to ever get makuuchi promotion, Takekaze in third place. The amazing geriatric duo.

[Akōgyokuseki 228]

On 22/04/2018 at 16:46, rhyen said:

True, I still like it when Ichinojo's shikona sounds a lot like his first name. 

Is it just mere coincidence?

Can anyone provide me with some more info on Ichinojō's shikona. Would it be considered a form of ateji? (I'm learning Japanese and this would be helpful to me) thanks in advance

[Akinomaki 40,480]

5 hours ago, Akōgyokuseki said:

Can anyone provide me with some more info on Ichinojō's shikona. Would it be considered a form of ateji? (I'm learning Japanese and this would be helpful to me) thanks in advance

Many shikona have some ateji-like parts, but only a few are just that, like Baruto - Ichinojo has a proper shikona story:

On 11/28/2013 at 10:53, Akinomaki said:

Continues to be new recruit:

The shikona for Ichinnorow: 逸ノ城 Ichinojō

His real name for the sound of the first kanji, the meaning being outstanding talent, and the jō (castle) from his high school Tottori Jōhoku.

http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/sumo/news/f-sp-tp3-20131128-1224342.html

[Akōgyokuseki 228]

Many thanks Akinomaki. The info you provided me with makes me appreciate how clever his shikona is, especially the ジョウ part.

(Unfortunately I am listed as an inactive member and cannot show appreciation for your post, sorry)

[Asashosakari 19,320]

Takayasu's withdrawal from Natsu basho makes it the first basho since Hatsu 1982 to start with only one ozeki on the Day 1 schedule, and the first since Haru 1925 while having two ozeki actually present on the banzuke. (However, for completenes: Hatsu 1991 had one of its two ozeki withdrawing from his scheduled shonichi bout.)

[Naganoyama 5,911]

Obama

[Benihana 1,929]

Not a shikona, but a good name for a kung fu master: Gu Ning

[Asashosakari 19,320]

Rikito's results (7-28) from Nagoya to Haru seem to have tied for the worst ever full-attendance 5-basho run by a reasonably competent lower-division rikishi (i.e. not Moriurara types in or barely out of jonokuchi).

Query - only Iwakikaze in 1961 and Hamamura in 1964/65 also went the full 7-28, the rest missed matches.

Honourable post-WWII mentions to Wakanishiki who went 6-30 across 5 and 8-36 across 6 tournaments in 1960/1961 (first two still in the 8-bout era, so excluded above), and Hakuiyama who went an astounding 6-34 in 1956/57 - directly after getting demoted from juryo, no less.

Edited May 16, 2018 by Asashosakari

[shimodahito 315]

Day 15 Kakuryu vs Hakuho.  The last time they met was Kyushu 2016.  That's more than a year ago!!!   What's the longest gap between 2 yokozuna matches?

[Kintamayama 45,116]

Tochinoshin trivia:

60 bashos to Ozeki since entering Makuuchi-tied for most ever with Masuiyama 2.

73 bashos to Ozeki  since entering sumo - tied for 9th place with Takayasu.

30 years and 7 months old at promotion-  4th  oldest since the 6 basho a year system was established.

 

 

 

 

[Eikokurai 3,437]

3 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Tochinoshin trivia:

60 bashos to Ozeki since entering Makuuchi-tied for most ever with Masuiyama 2.

73 bashos to Ozeki  since entering sumo - tied for 9th place with Takayasu.

30 years and 7 months old at promotion-  4th  oldest since the 6 basho a year system was established.

 

 

 

 

When is the promotion counted from? When it appears on the banzuke or from the end of the tournament previous?

[Kintamayama 45,116]

8 hours ago, Eikokurai said:

When is the promotion counted from? When it appears on the banzuke or from the end of the tournament previous?

Banzuke.

[Atenzan 1,081]

On 1/7/2016 at 11:06, Atenzan said:

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&form1_wins=15&form1_j=on

All retired rikishi who achieved a 15-0 juryo yusho went on to become Ozeki. Tochinoshin is the only active rikishi with a 15-0 juryo yusho to his name.

And all is good in the world. 

[Asashosakari 19,320]

Fourth time in the seven-bout era that nobody in the makushita top 5 ranks scored better than 4-3.

[ryafuji 814]

Was just reading a Google translation of Hokutoumi's Wikipedia article (as you do) and it said that his match with Asahifuji in July 1991 was the last bout to date between two Japanese-born yokozuna. That's 27 years! And if Kisenosato retires before the next Japanese yokozuna is promoted (which seems likely) we could be waiting quite a while longer.

[Ryoshishokunin 288]

I don't know how to make a query of this, but while playing GKA this basho I noted that (Kyujo Kisenosato aside) the top 16 (actually 19) are all from different heya.  Kise/Takayasu spoil thing on paper, so I wonder what the record is for most different heya before a repeat at the top of the banzuke--I couldn't come up with a good way to query that out of the DB.

Edited July 6, 2018 by Ryoshishokunin

[Jakusotsu 5,969]

I looked back to 2002 only, and the most diverse top-rankers I found was in Natsu 2005 with the first repeat being Sadogatake at M5e. That's 16 rikishi from different heyas on top, exactly the magic number for a perfect round-robin (which didn't happen, of course...).

[Asashosakari 19,320]

That reminds me of what might have been my very first foray into trivia on the forum:

TL;DR There were only three basho between 1945 and 2003 where all sanyaku-rankers were from different stables, so in general the first repeated heya has come very early on the banzuke. (Having frequently much bigger diversity at the top is a recent phenomenon, largely driven by the one-foreigner-per-stable rule. As you'll note at the end of the thread, Doitsuyama already predicted that development back then.)

Edited July 6, 2018 by Asashosakari

[Ryoshishokunin 288]

And, checking those three banzuke pointed out in that thread, the Natsu 2005 basho is the 'most diverse at the top' that I was looking for.  Thanks to both of you.

[Chijanofuji 113]

If I'm not mistaken Kakuryu's absence today (Nagoya 2018, day 6) marks the first day in a Honbasho since Natsu 2006, when Asashoryu - the  lone Yokozuna at the time - went kyujo on day 3, that no match involving a Yokozuna was fought and no Yokozuna dohyo-iri was performed (so that goes for days 3 through 15 of that basho).

Did I get that right?

Edited July 13, 2018 by Chijanofuji

[Chijanofuji 113]

I looked a bit further in the past (back to just before the period in 1992/1993) where there were no Yokozuna on the banzuke and (if I didn't make any mistakes) on the following days in the last 26 years are the days during Honbasho that no battles involving a Yokozuna took place at all and no Yokozuna Dohyo-iri was performed.

Nagoya 2018, days 6 through 15 - 3 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Kisenosato kyujo from the start; Hakuho kyujo from day 4, Kakuryu kyujo from day 6.
Natsu 2006, days 3 through 15 - 1 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Asashoryu kyujo from day 3.
Nagoya 2003, days 10 through 15 - 2 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Musahimaru kyujo from day 6, Asashoryu from day 10.
Hatsu 2003, days 9 through 15 - 2 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Musashimaru kyujo from from the start, Takanohana kyujo and intai from day 9.
Kyushu 2002, days 6 through 15 - 2 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Takanohana kyujo from the start, Musashimaru kyujo from day 6.
Hatsu 2002, days 4 through 15 -  2 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Takanohana kyujo from the start, Musashimaru kyujo from day 4.
Haru 1999, days 11 through 15 - 3 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Akebono kyujo from the start, Wakanohana kyujo from day 10, Takanohana kyujo from day 11.
Aki 1994, days 1 through 15 - 1 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Akebono kyujo from the start.
Nagoya 1994, days 1 through 15 - 1 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Akebono kyujo from the start.
Natsu 1994, days 12 through 15 - 1 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Akebono kyujo from day 12.
Nagoya 1992 day 1 through Hatsu 1993 day 15 - no Yokozuna on the banzuke.
Natsu 1992, days 1 through 15 - 1 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Hokutoumi kyujo and intai from the start.
Haru 1992, days 3 through 15 - 1 Yokozuna on the banzuke; Hokutoumi kyujo from day 3.

Edited July 13, 2018 by Chijanofuji

[Jakusotsu 5,969]

25 minutes ago, Chijanofuji said:

(if I didn't make any mistakes)

You didn't.

[Yubinhaad 11,683]

Chiyonokuni is only the fourth rikishi to collect two fusensho wins against Yokozuna in the same basho. The last to do so, Tamakasuga, is now Kataonami-oyakata and was serving as a shimpan for Chiyonokuni's bout today.

[Eikokurai 3,437]

1 minute ago, Yubinhaad said:

Chiyonokuni is only the fourth rikishi to collect two fusensho wins against Yokozuna in the same basho. The last to do so, Tamakasuga, is now Kataonami-oyakata and was serving as a shimpan for Chiyonokuni's bout today.

What is the record for most fusensho against any rank in a single tournament? How about all sanyaku?