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On 1/21/2018 at 12:21, PawnSums said:

and a 50kg rikishi named Ko.

 

On 1/21/2018 at 15:17, Yukiarashi said:

How about a very arrogant Yokozuna that's named I?

Tochinowaka the last one was called Ri for awhile.

Sometimes I actually do support and learn about rikishi for their names. Most recently Aqkua. Tobizaru the flying monkey was another but his technique is really good aswell. I still supported Aragyoshi when he was no longer U. 

If a 300 kg+ rikishi would be named O, wouldn't the 50 kg rikishi be named I ?

 

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45 minutes ago, Yamanashi said:

 

If a 300 kg+ rikishi would be named O, wouldn't the 50 kg rikishi be named I ?

 

Took me a while but good job here :) 

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Ura got kensho after his guest appearance in Makuuchi, when he was still in Juryo.
I don't think that Juryo bouts are allowed to have kensho. The kensho are a distinguishing part of the top division, and an extra incentive to appear on the dohyo.

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1 hour ago, orandashoho said:

I don't think that Juryo bouts are allowed to have kensho.

Well, the aforementioned Wajima vs Yutakayama bouts were allowed (according to Wikipedia anyway),  maybe as a one-time exception. 

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Is it possible to query most makuuchi visits whilst ranked in  juryo? That might give us some idea. 

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3 minutes ago, ryafuji said:

Is it possible to query most makuuchi visits whilst ranked in  juryo? That might give us some idea. 

Sure.

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Least wins in a calendar year with full makuuchi attendance (* = did not drop to juryo afterwards):

31  1965  Maedagawa (one fusenpai)

32  1967  Toyokuni
32  1976  Owashi

33  1998  Ganyu*
33  2000  Asanowaka*
33  2012  Miyabiyama*

34  1960  Tamanoumi*
34  1979  Takamiyama*
34  1981  Aobayama
34  1995  Tochinowaka*
34  1997  Tochinowaka*
34  2014  Tochinowaka

35  1964  Kainoyama*
35  1968  Fujinishiki (-> intai)
35  1978  Oshio
35  1980  Tamanofuji*
35  1996  Kotoinazuma*
35  1996  Mitoizumi*
35  1998  Asahiyutaka*
35  2000  Hamanoshima*
35  2002  Kyokushuzan*
35  2012  Wakakoyu

(Six-basho era, excludes 2011.)

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Only 31 wins in a year and didn't drop to juryo, that's some banzuke luck.

Ok I see he went down the next year but still.

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4 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

33  1998  Ganyu*

That's an interesting pattern of results.

On unrelated news, I think next basho we'll have no kadoban Ozeki for the third basho in a row, which I think is the longest stint since 2013. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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10 minutes ago, Sakura said:

On unrelated news, I think next basho we'll have no kadoban Ozeki for the third basho in a row, which I think is the longest stint since 2013. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The last stretch longer than two tournaments was 2012.01 to 2012.09 (5 basho).

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Just now, Asashosakari said:

The last stretch longer than two tournaments was 2012.01 to 2012.09 (5 basho).

Thanks.

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Kaisei has the worst record ever against Yokozunae: 0-30. "There is something that does not let me beat the Yokozunae." he said. Oh..

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On day 14 Kaisei met M13e Dishomaru after facing Y1e Kakuryu on day 13. Those are 17 full ranks difference between consecutive days. Is there a way to query such a thing, as it sounds very extreme (aka a result of the circumstances)? A record maybe even?

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3 hours ago, yorikiried by fate said:

On day 14 Kaisei met M13e Dishomaru after facing Y1e Kakuryu on day 13. Those are 17 full ranks difference between consecutive days. Is there a way to query such a thing, as it sounds very extreme (aka a result of the circumstances)? A record maybe even?

Back in Kyushu, Endo met Hakuho followed the next day facing M12w Kagayaki, going from last bout of the day to first in division and a difference of 33 slots on the banzuke. Coincidentally, the difference between Kakuryu and Daishomaru, this basho, is also 33 slots on the banzuke.

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On 24.3.2018 at 21:22, yorikiried by fate said:

On day 14 Kaisei met M13e Dishomaru after facing Y1e Kakuryu on day 13. Those are 17 full ranks difference between consecutive days. Is there a way to query such a thing, as it sounds very extreme (aka a result of the circumstances)? A record maybe even?

Took me quite a while to query that question. Since 1995 there have only been four occasions where a Makuuchi rikishi's opponents were more than 50 half-ranks apart on consecutive days:

1. M7w Asanosho, Hatsu 1996, day 10 Y1e Takanohana, day 11 M16e Tamakasuga, 54 half-ranks apart
2. M8w Higonoumi, Kyushu 1995, day 12 Y1e Takanohana, day 13 M15w Aogiyama, 53 half-ranks apart
3. M8e Tosanoumi, Aki 1995, day 10 M15e Tokitsunada, day 11 Y1e Takanohana, 52 half-ranks apart
4. M9w Kotonowaka, Nagoya 1998, day 11 M15e Kinkaiyama, day 12 Y1w Takanohana, 51 half-ranks apart

Looks like the Futagoyama Factor fully in charge.

The recent Kaisei case (33 halfranks apart) is only ranked 334th in this list.

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@Jakusotsu Serious question: How have you arrived at those figures?

There are only 42 slots in Makuuchi, with 41 half ranks between Y1E and the lowest maegashira.

BTW, 33 half ranks between Y1E and M13E adds up fine...

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On 3/24/2018 at 14:07, Kintamayama said:

Kaisei has the worst record ever against Yokozunae: 0-30. "There is something that does not let me beat the Yokozunae." he said. Oh..

I thought his Achilles Heel has already been exposed in the media...
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44 minutes ago, RabidJohn said:

There are only 42 slots in Makuuchi, with 41 half ranks between Y1E and the lowest maegashira.

Hmm....you're right (and 1995 there were even less) - should have switched my brain on before publishing those numbers.

What I used was the internal ordering number of the banzuke tables in the sumodb which are neatly arranged from 1-42 for the most recent banzuke, but apparently there are holes in the older ones. Need to investigate further, but not today...

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7 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

Part of my irregular series on rare but otherwise not particularly interesting results patterns:

Mitakeumi's 9-8-9-8-9-8

Mitakeumi's 9-8-7 as sanyaku

Endo's 9-9-9 as maegashira
 

This seems like a set of mixes that would be well suited for the Ozeki crowd.

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