kuroimori 1,634 Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Just published at the NSK website: Makuuchi Hakuho Y Harumafuji Kakuryu Y Kisenosato O Kotoshogiku O Goeido Terunofuji S Okinoumi Tamwawashi K Myogiryu Tochiozan M1 Ichinojo Sadanoumi M2 Takarafuji Takayasu M3 Aoiyama Takekaze M4 Tochinoshin Toyonoshima M5 Endo Aminishiki M6 Kaisei Homarefuji M7 Tokushoryu Shohozan M8 Tokitenku Yoshikaze M9 Jokoryu Kyokushuho M10 Kitataiki Osunaarashi M11 Kyokutenho Chiyootori M12 Kotoyuki Ikioi M13 Sokokurai Sadanofuji M14 Arawashi Toyohibiki M15 Gagamaru Amuru M16 Chiyomaru Edited February 22, 2015 by kuroimori 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Juryo Kagamio J1 Chiyotairyu Kagayaki J2 Asahisho Fujiazuma J3 Tamaasuka Seiro J4 Wakanosato Daido J5 Asasekiryu Daieisho J6 Takanoiwa Hidenoumi J7 Chiyoo Tenkaiho J8 Kitaharima Onosho J9 Shotenro Masunoyama J10 Satoyama Tosayutaka J11 Sotairyu Abi J12 Amakaze Kotoeko J13 Akiseyama Ishiura J14 Kizenryu Edited February 22, 2015 by kuroimori 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,919 Posted February 22, 2015 Shikona changes not previously announced: Sd23e Daikiho -> Yamaguchi (acceptance that he's not sekitori material any more?) Sd92e Omori -> Saidaiji Jd21e Gojinryu -> Arikawa Jd68w Shirai -> Sorokaze Jk16e Maruyama -> Kenshin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,478 Posted February 22, 2015 Daikiho never struck me as someone that would be a makuuchi regular- he seemed to make poor decisions in the ring - but I expected he'd be a steady juryo performer. Anyone know what's responsible for his drop down the banzuke? He had the problem with a...detached retina, wasn't it? Or is another injury at play here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senkoho 552 Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Daikiho never struck me as someone that would be a makuuchi regular- he seemed to make poor decisions in the ring - but I expected he'd be a steady juryo performer. Anyone know what's responsible for his drop down the banzuke? He had the problem with a...detached retina, wasn't it? Or is another injury at play here? Chronic dorsal collapsia. Edited February 22, 2015 by Senkoho 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
botev1921 33 Posted February 22, 2015 This is just ridiculous. Sadanoumi and Myogiryu both with 9:6 from M8 and somehow they end with a whole rank between them! Sadanoumi should have been M1 at the expense of Ichinojo but I guess they are all about the hype too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScreechingOwl 343 Posted February 23, 2015 This is just ridiculous. Sadanoumi and Myogiryu both with 9:6 from M8 and somehow they end with a whole rank between them! Sadanoumi should have been M1 at the expense of Ichinojo but I guess they are all about the hype too! I don't see anything ridiculous about how these three rikishi were ranked. A 6-9 record can certainly result in a drop of more than 2 ranks, and perhaps 2.5 is more common, but it has to be remembered that Ichinojo is dropping out of the sanyuka, and typically rikishi dropping out of the sanyaku are treated slightly more leniently, perhaps in recognition or the quality of opposition they faced (or perhaps because of the salary drop). In any case, in the previous basho Ikioi was given the same two rank demotion from sanyaku after a 6-9 records. As for Myogiryu, he was extremely lucky to get to komusubi from M8 with "only" a 9-6 record, but such is life. Sadanoumi still moves up a sweet 6.5 ranks on a 9-6 records, so he has nothing to complain about. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,919 Posted February 23, 2015 This is just ridiculous. Sadanoumi and Myogiryu both with 9:6 from M8 and somehow they end with a whole rank between them! Sadanoumi should have been M1 at the expense of Ichinojo but I guess they are all about the hype too! And here I thought it was ridiculous how far Sadanoumi was moved up. Myogiryu they "have to" move into Komusubi, but there are plenty of people that can take the top spots of the maegashira once sanyaku is filled. I'm thinking with both of these arguments in mind, they went somewhere in the middle where it makes least logical sense, but is a compromise between more logical solutions. Ichinojo as M1 is pretty standard for a 6 win Sekiwake without anyone else with a compelling record. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,815 Posted February 23, 2015 Wow. Somebody must really hate Gagamaru. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,919 Posted February 23, 2015 Same people who hated Tokitenku last basho, yet Kitataiki is at an appropriate rank for his record. The anti-foreigner bias continues. Also consider Tochinoshin's 3 rank drop as a 6-9 M1w to Aminishiki's 2 rank drop with the same record/rank previous basho. Aoiyama is reasonable to be ranked ahead of Tochinoshin, but Takekaze? Toyonoshima's 8-7 from M6e wasn't good enough to outrank Aminishiki for Hatsu, but Takekaze's 9-6 from M9w outranks Tochinoshin for Haru. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shumitto 418 Posted February 23, 2015 The anti-foreigner bias continues. I was waiting for that, but I beg to disagree. Tokitenku has been on the receiving end of some good treatment throughout his career, but not last time. The banzuke was harsh on Gagamaru, and although I am yet to carefully analyse it, his surroundings were fairly or even harshly promoted and it is hard find a most fitting rank for Gaga - without some more tough demotions - barring a swap with Toyohibiki that wouldn't amount to much though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 807 Posted February 24, 2015 Shikona changes not previously announced: Sd23e Daikiho -> Yamaguchi (acceptance that he's not sekitori material any more?) More likely a hope that it will bring a change of fortune. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teo_heel 33 Posted February 24, 2015 Same people who hated Tokitenku last basho, yet Kitataiki is at an appropriate rank for his record. The anti-foreigner bias continues. Also consider Tochinoshin's 3 rank drop as a 6-9 M1w to Aminishiki's 2 rank drop with the same record/rank previous basho. Aoiyama is reasonable to be ranked ahead of Tochinoshin, but Takekaze? Toyonoshima's 8-7 from M6e wasn't good enough to outrank Aminishiki for Hatsu, but Takekaze's 9-6 from M9w outranks Tochinoshin for Haru. But Amuru get his position in Makuuchi clearly, because someone think, that he won't get his position in Makuuchi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hakuhonofan 334 Posted March 1, 2015 That was awesome! (Laughing...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luispereira 383 Posted March 1, 2015 muhaha nice :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adil 232 Posted March 1, 2015 Fabulous stuff, Tenshinhan! Loved it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highway 46 Posted March 2, 2015 It's a very flaky Sekiwake and Komusubi spreading. I see all 4 of those guys dropping straight back down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mongolith 51 Posted March 2, 2015 It's a very flaky Sekiwake and Komusubi spreading. I see all 4 of those guys dropping straight back down. Hope Fuji keeps his spot. His bouts are pretty fun. Thinking him and ichi are the next ozeki. May be a while as they gotta balance the 3 yoks with some locals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inhashi 2,363 Posted March 2, 2015 Same people who hated Tokitenku last basho, yet Kitataiki is at an appropriate rank for his record. The anti-foreigner bias continues.. Tokitenku is now a naturalized Japanese citizen. Wiki: Tokitenkū became a Japanese citizen in January 2014. This will enable him to stay in the sumo world as an elder of the Japan Sumo Association upon his eventual retirement from active competition. He has already secured the Magaki kabu or stock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mongolith 51 Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Same people who hated Tokitenku last basho, yet Kitataiki is at an appropriate rank for his record. The anti-foreigner bias continues.. Tokitenku is now a naturalized Japanese citizen. Wiki: Tokitenkū became a Japanese citizen in January 2014. This will enable him to stay in the sumo world as an elder of the Japan Sumo Association upon his eventual retirement from active competition. He has already secured the Magaki kabu or stock. Does anyone really think naturalized makes them considered true japanese. Hell they even went for the foreign born designation as they saw naturalized Japanese as cheating their already highly restricted system. Pretty sure none of the news covered Kyokutenhō as being the first Japanese winner since 2006 or so. *Correcting some mindless shortening of words. Edited March 2, 2015 by Mongolith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mongolith 51 Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) The way you use the work "Japs" or "Jap" is very insulting. You dick. Did not mean it that way as I usually shorten words. Guess I don't think when I type and honestly was not trying to insult the culture or anything negative like that. I am not bitter about Japanese wanting locals to succeed I understand its their national sport and it a business. Just sad that big guys like Tochinowaka don't have the mindset to succeed in sumo like great Japanese fighters like Kaio and mediocre sekiwakes like Goedo are propped up to the Ozeki ranks. Also I don't think their is some inherent bias about the mid megashira ranking of foreigners, honestly other than the top ranks I sincerely doubt fans care if someone is M6 v. M8. Edited March 2, 2015 by Mongolith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,815 Posted March 2, 2015 The way you use the slur "Japs" or "Jap" is very insulting.... Ill-bred tactless dick. Moderator Notice That's more than enough name calling for now. Please behave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taigiin khuu 42 Posted March 3, 2015 I noticed today that Okinoumi is leading the popularity vote by almost 2 thousand votes. Is this a real change in popularity over Endou, or is it just a consequence of his Sekiwake promotion? Has Okinoumi been getting more TV attention in Japan? I'd be interested to know. Last basho Ichinojo and Kyokutenho were out in front, with Endou I think, and I assumed that the 2 of them were getting plenty of TV time which caused the votes to pour in. This basho (so far) they are lingering down in 18th and 19th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CT3* 331 Posted March 3, 2015 I think that now that Hakuho has broken the record, Kisenosato has a much better chance of winning a tournament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
