Sumozumo 240 Posted October 31, 2015 That reminds me, it's been a year since I've added the ages and people are ageing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tenshinhan 1,510 Posted October 31, 2015 I'm rather surprised by Sato, a month younger than Onosho, having a chance to end the latter's run as youngest sekitori so soon. Onosho was so young at the time he was promoted to Juryo there was no one in Makushita younger than him. Now there's at least Takayoshitoshi as well as Sato, but I haven't checked to see how many other there might be by now. I looked it up. Sato and Takayoshitoshi are indeed the only two rikishi in makushita younger than Onosho. Speaking of youngest sekitori: Does Kisenosato hold this record? He was about 17 years and 10 month old at his Juryo debut... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 2,372 Posted October 31, 2015 Takanohana born August 1972, Juryo debut November 1989 = 17 years, 3 months. He set a lot of age-related records according to this article. It lists youngest sekitori, Makuuchi rikishi, Makushita Yusho winner, rikishi to beat a Yokozuna, and Makuuchi Yusho winner. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumozumo 240 Posted November 16, 2015 Kyushuu 2015 Half Time Update Saionji's record needs to behave better this time! I posted this at a weird time so if you're sensitive to spoilers please wait until you review all your necessary Day 9 videos!!! Shikona Age Country Heya Debut KK Current Rank Yushos Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Shodai23TokitsukazeNatsu 20149 Juryo 5 West262-170.795 11-4 7-1 Sato18TakanohanaKyushu 20146 Makushita 7 West238-80.826 6-1 D 3-1 Mitakeumi22DewanoumiHaru 20154 Makuuchi 11 West139-130.750 12-3 4-4 Iwasaki23OitekazeHaru 20154 Makushita 37 West027-50.844 6-1 3-1 Omoto22IrumagawaHaru 20154 Sandanme 7 West024-80.750 5-2 2-2 Kotonawa18SadogatakeHaru 20154 Sandanme 29 East022-100.688 5-2 1-3 Daiki23HakkakuNatsu 20153 Makushita 25 East223-20.920 7-0 Y 3-1 Ura23KiseNatsu 20154 Makushita 54 Westt123-20.920 5-2 4-0 Asayamabana22TakasagoNatsu 20153 Sandanme 52 West019-60.760 6-1 2-2 Saionji21ShikihideNatsu 20153 Sandanme 65 Easst017-80.680 5-2 1-3 Hirotsukasa22IrumagawaNatsu 20154 Sandanme 90 West019-5-10.792 5-2 4-0 Inoue16KiseNatsu 20154 Jonidan 3 East018-80.692 4-3 4-1 Toshinofuji18IsegahamaNatsu 20153 Jonidan 23 East015-100.600 4-3 3-1 Chiyonoumi22KokonoeNagoya 20152 Sadanme 19 East217-10.944 7-0 Y 3-1 Kiribayama19MichinokuNagoya 20153 Sandanme 96 West015-30.833 6-1 4-0 Homarenishiki20NishikidoNagoya 20153 Jonidan 8 East014-50.737 6-1 4-1 Tsukimoto23IsenoumiNagoya 20153 Jonidan 27 East014-40.778 5-2 4-0 Nobody has hit the wall... yet. Shodai continues to be impressive in Juryo and still leads the Arasoi from 4 rikishi. Sato probably lost an early yusho decider against Chiyoshoma... as long as Chiyoshoma doesn't get exchanged into dust and some lower level Makushita takes the yusho. Mitakeumi isn't having as much fun as Shodai this basho, he's right on the edge still. Daiki took a lost on Day 1 against a normal Makushita rikishi, while Ura is still perfect but is fighting at a lower rank. I hope they both get up to Makushita-joi at the same time. Inoue, at 16 years old, took his fourth consecutive kachikochi, amazing. All the guys at the bottom of the list have already booked their ticket to the next Wall. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumozumo 240 Posted November 24, 2015 Kyushuu 2015 It's all over! Shikona Age Country Heya Debut KK Current Rank Yushos Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Shodai24TokitsukazeNatsu 201410 Juryo 5 West368-180.791 11-4 13-2 Y Sato18TakanohanaKyushu 20146 Makushita 7 West238-110.776 6-1 D 3-4 Mitakeumi22DewanoumiHaru 20155 Makuuchi 11 West143-160.729 12-3 8-7 Iwasaki23OitekazeHaru 20155 Makushita 37 West029-60.829 6-1 5-2 Omoto22IrumagawaHaru 20155 Sandanme 7 West026-90.743 5-2 4-3 Kotonawa18SadogatakeHaru 20154 Sandanme 29 East024-110.686 5-2 3-4 Daiki23HakkakuNatsu 20154 Makushita 25 East225-30.893 7-0 Y 5-2 Ura23KiseNatsu 20154 Makushita 54 Westt126-20.929 5-2 7-0 D Asayamabana22TakasagoNatsu 20153 Sandanme 52 West020-80.714 6-1 3-4 Saionji21ShikihideNatsu 20153 Sandanme 65 Easst018-100.643 5-2 2-5 Hirotsukasa22IrumagawaNatsu 20154 Sandanme 90 West021-6-10.778 5-2 6-1 Inoue16KiseNatsu 20154 Jonidan 3 East019-90.679 4-3 5-2 Toshinofuji18IsegahamaNatsu 20154 Jonidan 23 East016-120.571 4-3 4-3 Chiyonoumi22KokonoeNagoya 20153 Sadanme 19 East218-30.857 7-0 Y 4-3 Kiribayama19MichinokuNagoya 20153 Sandanme 96 West118-30.857 6-1 7-0 Y Homarenishiki20NishikidoNagoya 20153 Jonidan 8 East016-50.762 6-1 6-1 Tsukimoto23IsenoumiNagoya 20153 Jonidan 27 East016-50.762 5-2 6-1 Mitsuuchi19OnomatsuAki 20152 Jonidan 42 East012-20.857 6-1 6-1 Nobody has hit the wall... yet. Shodai convincingly took the Juryo Yusho for his first sekitori yusho. We will be able to see him in makuuchi in January! Sato after his loss to Chiyoshoma dropped the next 3 to go MK. Kind of unexpected since he beat 3 guys around his rank, I guess. Hopefully, it isn't due to injury. He might float around makushita joi a bit like Abiko. Mitakeumi won out the last 3 days of the basho to save his kachikoshi. Daiki and Ura seem to be headed for the same area on the banzuke, hope they get another chance to go at it! More people got to see Ura's unorthodox resting style during the Makushita playoff that makes it very hard to push him out with the leverage from bales. He lost and it makes my back hurt. Iwasaki and Omoto became wall aces, but Kotonawa did not. Inoue, is still extremely young. Toshinofuji marks not only his 4th kachikoshi but also his 4th '4-3' record. This has happened 13 times since at least 1963. A couple guys had 5 '4-3' records to start, including Maenoshin who later became Yamahibki oyakata and then suddenly disappeared during a basho to escape debt collector. He was fired from NSK for that. Then, if the DB is correct, there is Nishito who had 5 '4-3' records and then retired! Kiribayama took the Sandanme yusho and keeps the wall's collective yusho count at 10, with Sato's departure. The only guy that could have been added, Mitsuuchi, took a 6-1 record. There is nobody who could be added after Hatsu basho. There is one guy Himekatsuyama (姫勝山? Really? Jeez...) who came in late, so for the purpose of this thing I'm just going to ignore this basho and put him in after March if he can manage it. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 2,372 Posted November 24, 2015 When Himekatsuyama's shikona was first announced I thought about saying something about a shikona with 姫 in it, but I have to wonder if 姫勝 together means something a bit more manly. I dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torquato 1,075 Posted November 24, 2015 When Himekatsuyama's shikona was first announced I thought about saying something about a shikona with 姫 in it, but I have to wonder if 姫勝 together means something a bit more manly. I dunno. I was curious and looked him up. He is from Ehime Prefecture (愛媛県). Different Kanji, but same (kun-)reading and meaning. I'd think the shikona shall mean something like 'the winning mountain from Hime'. Nice, actually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumozumo 240 Posted November 25, 2015 That makes more sense, but there's no way he isn't catching constant shit from his heya mates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 2,372 Posted November 25, 2015 It might not be as derogatory in Japan. They probably have a much more favorable view of their royalty than others, especially Americans since we don't have any. The connotations might be completely different than they are in English. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted November 26, 2015 Actually, from what manga I read, no man would like to be called "princess". ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
