yorikiried by fate 2,028 Posted November 23, 2014 Pretty cool Doitsuyama's birthday falls on this record-tying day. B-) Yeah, but he miserably failed to become 32. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuBa 76 Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) I would like to congratulate him on the achievement. I used to call him a vanilla Yokozuna, but today I'll take my words back. If I remember right I heard him saying in a Mongolian TV interview that he is not contemplating becoming a Japanese citizen, so he will probably follow Asa's path. On a total side note, as it was discussed earlier, I heard him saying that he once broke his finger because it caught in Aminishiki's leg contraption. As for what he said in Mongolian: "I, a descendant son of Burte Chino and Goo Maral, am happy to be able to repay my beloved Yokozuna Taiho by achieving what I have promised. I am also happy to show that if we the Mongolian people are strong and united we can achieve great things." Burte Chino and Goo Maral are the mythical ancestors of Mongols. Edited November 23, 2014 by BuBa 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,477 Posted November 23, 2014 I would like to congratulate him on the achievement. I used to call him a vanilla Yokozuna, but today I'll take my words back. If I remember right I heard him saying in a Mongolian TV interview that he is contemplating not becoming a Japanese citizen, so he will probably follow Asa's path. He said repeatedly though in Japanese interviews that he wants to become oyakata and raise new talents, if possible in his own heya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachiyama 115 Posted November 23, 2014 His wife is Japanese and his three children crowing up in Japan. Sumo is Hakuho's life. No way he's leaving Japan! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuBa 76 Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) As I understand that is why there is this talk about ichiday toshiori, because he wants to be a part of sumo after. He also said though, there is no pressure from Kyokai one way or other. And this is coming from him not a reporter. Obviously It doesn't matter to me. Edited November 23, 2014 by BuBa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilwaldo 11 Posted November 23, 2014 It is possible that his decision may not be a popular decision in Japanese culture and would prefer to keep the decision to himself until he retires. There could be some cultural reasons behind the decision. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,052 Posted November 23, 2014 Impressive performance from Terunofuji in beating both Sekiwake as well as Tochiozan and Kotoshogiku, maintaining a position in the joi for the third straight basho. He's still rather young and I wouldn't be surprised to see him as an Ozeki a few years down the road. His stable-mate Takarafuji also managed three straight wins to end the basho, getting his first joi KK. It helps these guys out quite a bit that they never have to face each other or Harumafuji and Aminishiki. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monnodo 60 Posted November 23, 2014 I am really glad, that Hakuho won this one. To me, he is the best there is, was and ever will be (he is the Bret Hart of sumo^^). But seriously, I feel so ubelievably glad to see Hakuho wrestle, he is absolutely amazing, his technique and ring inteligence seem unmatchable. I really do not care if he goes back to mongolia or stays in japan, I just want to see a Dai Yokuzuna wrestle, and when he is not able to do that anymore, he should do what feels right for him. Because I think he ows nobody something, he gave us his sumo for free. Well, kinda for free but you know what I mean^^ Sounds a bit corny :D But this is ho I feel right now. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highway 46 Posted November 23, 2014 Hakuho is champion of champions. A true master of his art if there ever was one. It is a privilege to watch him wrestling. Glad Aoiyama made that 8th win. He did well alongside Ichni at sekiwake. Let's see if either of these two guys can start pushing for ozeki, given that I think at least one will of the ozeki will lose his status next basho. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rzombie1988 159 Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Hakuho is champion of champions. A true master of his art if there ever was one. It is a privilege to watch him wrestling. Glad Aoiyama made that 8th win. He did well alongside Ichni at sekiwake. Let's see if either of these two guys can start pushing for ozeki, given that I think at least one will of the ozeki will lose his status next basho. There's almost no way Ichinojo doesn't make Ozeki at some point. I think he's easily the favorite against anyone but the Yokozuna's. He's fresh and beating people with much more experience, so it's hard to think he's going to get worse. The only thing that can stop him is an injury at this point. I find Aoiyama disappointing. There's no reason he shouldn't be doing better with his size. He's also never lost less than 4 in a basho. Four losses will never get you a basho win. That's bordering on not even getting an Ozeki promotion. Edited November 23, 2014 by rzombie1988 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,028 Posted November 23, 2014 Aoiyama is 28. I would be surprised if the current basho and maybe a couple of the following ones wouldn't be called "his prime" in a few years time. His mobility (which is not too shabby considering his weight) - mostly responsible for his current impact - can only decrease from here, IMHO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,028 Posted November 23, 2014 And Hakuho, record and everything, dominance, go-with-the-flow, ladida. Respect and stuff, but he's a few smashed rearview-mirrors short of being THE MAN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rzombie1988 159 Posted November 23, 2014 Thoughts: Another good basho for Hakuho. I thought he'd lose two for a bit there, but he held out. He outsmarted Kak today as Kak wasn't locked in and when he took his hands off the ground he was done. Hard to not see Hak taking the next one, but we'll see what happens. I'm thinking it may be a while before Harumafuji's next title. He's still the most explosive rikishi but he missed two tournaments due to injury and Hak/Kak and others are heating up. I hope we don't see him injured any more and he HAS to stop losing matches so early. What sets Hakuho apart from everyone else is that he rarely loses early. Kakuryu looked good early then fell apart near the end, going back to the old Kakuryu. He lost his final match before it even started, but he looked more promising. Similar to Kakuryu, Kisenosato looked good early as well and then took an embarassing loss to Hakuho. I hope he goes back to the Kisenosato we saw earlier this year at some point. Kotoshogiku was embarassing and looked like he was enrolled in a tumbling class for half the basho, after looking good last time. He just didn't look like himself at all. Goeido was bad. Ichinojo was a bit disappointing, but at least he mostly stopped the henka's. I thought he should have had double digit wins here and I would have liked to have seen him get a victory over a Yokozuna. At worst, he's even with the Ozeki's at the moment and probably better than all of them, maybe minus Kisenosato. He should be a force to be reckoned with and he has to get double digit wins next time. Tochinoshin was impressive but should have gotten another win. I really hope he can keep it up and make it to sanyaku. Kyokutenho seemed to stop putting in a ton of effort after his KK and I do admire Osuna for coming back from injury and doing alright. Looking forward to the next tournament. Just hoping someone will put it on online. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumozumo 240 Posted November 24, 2014 Getting kk at sekiwake is so difficult that I would never call that disappointing. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) Kyokutenho seemed to stop putting in a ton of effort after his KK and I do admire Osuna for coming back from injury and doing alright. Not pushing himself to the limit every single bout is part of the reason he's been around so long I think. If he knows he is very likely going out, in an untenable* position, he doesn't push it. It might make for more boring sumo, but there might be a lot less guys wrapped up like mummies if more tried this approach. *or should I have said, an "un-Tenho-able position"? :-D Edited November 24, 2014 by Asameshimae 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inhashi 2,363 Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) This Sankei column article demands that he should be made the first foreigner toshiyori when he retires, maybe voices like this will become louder, especially if he surpasses Taiho in yusho numbers next year. Hakusho surely knows that he has to have a japanese citizenship to be an oyakata after his retirement from active sumo. So, when he didn't applied for one until now, I conclude, that he doesn't plan to stay. Or he's simply genuinely undecided yet... Its not exactly an easy decision, choosing what to do with the rest of your life, is it? I can't imagine his Japanese wife along with all of his children leaving Japan to live in Mongolia or elsewhere. Possibly too settled (including the Yokozuna). Edited November 24, 2014 by inhashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumozumo 240 Posted November 24, 2014 Hakuho living in Japan while being excluded from sumo activities would look really ridiculous, this might be his strategy to induce change. Actions is louder than words, especially in Japanese business situations... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hakuhonofan 334 Posted November 24, 2014 I've posted about this here before. Hakuho's dad has been ill for some time. I think it's just not a proper time for him to do it yet. He'll do it in his pace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsubame 361 Posted November 24, 2014 Getting kk at sekiwake is so difficult that I would never call that disappointing. Especially for someone in his second makuuchi basho at all... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bettega 431 Posted November 24, 2014 And I had the impression that he don't tried that hard for his KK. Some respectful lost fights here and there goes a long way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted November 24, 2014 I think the guy deserves more credit from some. Many thought he would just bowl over the top guys, and he didn't. He knows that taking it slow and easy and use his massive frame, and then wait for his opening while his opponent struggles against him. This is only going to be amplified when he's going against the best that sumo has to offer. Assuming no injury, I think he is going to steadily improve and we will soon forget any doubts. If I have to eat those words, I am also okay with that. ;-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bettega 431 Posted November 24, 2014 I think you wouldn't have to eat your words - I agree with them :) What I think is that he played a "Kyokutenho Basho" - not loosing on purpose, but not exactly giving the max of himself. What would be amazing after all, getting a KK in his second makuuchi basho as Sekiwake. He'll be Ozeki in no time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted November 25, 2014 Hakuho and Asashoryu were both 8-7 as shin sekiwake, albeit after DD shin komusubi performances. Ichinojo did well, I thought, when one considers the media spotlight that was suddenly thrown upon him as well as all the general expectation. He's still only 21, too. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,477 Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Kitanoumi had declared that Hakuho won't be given the special ichi-dai toshiyori status as long as he doesn't take on the Japanese citizenship. This Sankei column article demands that he should be made the first foreigner toshiyori when he retires, maybe voices like this will become louder, especially if he surpasses Taiho in yusho numbers next year. Hakusho surely knows that he has to have a japanese citizenship to be an oyakata after his retirement from active sumo. So, when he didn't applied for one until now, I conclude, that he doesn't plan to stay. Or he's simply genuinely undecided yet... Its not exactly an easy decision, choosing what to do with the rest of your life, is it? I can't imagine his Japanese wife along with all of his children leaving Japan to live in Mongolia or elsewhere. Possibly too settled (including the Yokozuna). Kitanoumi is kept getting asked if Hakuho might be made a Mongolian oyakata and again confirmed "There is the rule that Japanese citizenship is required for becoming toshiyori. That's part of the traditional culture. We maintained it since the old days. Our intention is to stick to that." http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/20150104-OYT1T50096.html Edited January 5, 2015 by Akinomaki 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted February 3, 2015 The Big Sandy talk I heard from all the die hard fans who sit and watch sumo all day everyday (mostly retired people obviously) was that there was talk among wrestlers (especially ones that had taken the forearm) that Osuna could very well be hiding some piece of metal or the like in the wrapping he had on his forearm when he executed that "move". Regardless of the veracity of this claim, it seems the forearm move is no longer in Big Sandy's repetoire. I've seen some BS on this forum before but that takes the biscuit. Gotta say bud I'm really surprised you would put that kind of nonsense out there. Even if you did hear it from the drunk gossipers, it's surprising you didn't have the common sense to dismiss it immediately. Is all the negativity your masu mate pours out finally getting to you? 1) People are entitled to their opinions. To blame me for another person's comment is like blaming Booty for the atrocities of ISIS. 2) One person's 'negativity' is another person's reality. Interesting you should write of Daesh...There was an incident just last tournament regarding a prominent foreign rikishi from Egypt. 首相官邸の周辺では、日本の外交の脆弱さを非難する活動家がデモを繰り返しているんですが、中には右翼系の連中で“大相撲からイスラム教を追い出せ”と叫んでいる者もいて、国技館の千秋楽では....“おい、イスラム国!”と心ないヤジが飛びました "In the final day of the tournament at the Kokugikan, someone cruelly jeered at him, "Hey, Isuramu-koku (Islamic State)!"http://news.infoseek.co.jp/article/cyzo_20150202_622761 Disgusting stupidity, hope Boody didn't hear it at the time or doesn't read about it. Hope this kind of racist slurs don't increase in the wake of the horrible fate of the two murdered Japanese hostages. :-( 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites