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not a single kensho for a koreyori sanyaku bout???

not much applause from the audience as well when the 3rd last bout was announced by the gyoji...

which bout are you referring to Black Forest (gateau)?

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Fun to see Osh attempt a henka and lose.... by henka.

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not a single kensho for a koreyori sanyaku bout???

not much applause from the audience as well when the 3rd last bout was announced by the gyoji...

It wasn't supposed to be a koreyori sanyaku bout while the sponsors had time to place their kensho.

It also were 3 different gyoji for the 3 last bouts - Inosuke had one kyujo bout.

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not a single kensho for a koreyori sanyaku bout???

not much applause from the audience as well when the 3rd last bout was announced by the gyoji...

which bout are you referring to Black Forest (gateau)?

G

Fun to see Osh attempt a henka and lose.... by henka.

sorry,

Washi vs. O3

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NHK mentioned that no ozeki ever came from behind to win the yusho by winning against a yokozuna in a play-off after beating him in the main bout, Chiyotaikai did it as sekiwake.

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I assume this is the first time that brothers have won two consecutive Juryo Yushos? (Scratching chin...)

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did any monogolian ozeki-/yokozuna-candidate ever miss out on his run?

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Wasn't Kisenosato meant to be the Oseki with his run... :-D

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What a tough day for Satoyama today:

at first it looked like he won his kachikoshi clinching bout against Takayasu.

Then a mono-ii was called, resulting in a hansoku loss as Satoyama pulled Takayasu's top knot.

This loss meant:

- no kachi-koshi

- no Technique Prize (Gino-sho)

- Juryo demotion very likely

On the other hand, Takayasu had his arm wrapped in a way I thought Satoyama might have broken or dislocated something. At least he did not.

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What a final day!!! Kakuryū looked different to me this basho. But still, he probably won’t follow up this performance next basho. Turns out like my jokes became real, he’s on a yokozuna run now. I can’t believe Kisenosato went kyūjō… I thought he’d fight even if it were just to do a tachi-ai and fall on his back…

I was kind of hoping for a Hakuhō zenshō, but this was cool too.

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When Kakuryu won, I woke up my neighbours... :)

Same here, my throat still hurts.
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Kakuryu in a Yok run, Kise kadoban, Endou sanyaku (or at least in the meat grinder), probably 3 Sekiwake ... next basho seems very promising!

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What a final day!!! Kakuryū looked different to me this basho.

The amazing thing is, Kakuryu looked just like his old self again in the playoff.
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When in a playoff against the best (maybe the all time best) you're already a winner. Kakuryu was big this basho, but Hakuho is Hakuho (more 5 basho to go! 33 FTW)

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Endo's performance was a silver lining for the Japanese crowd, but seriously, even the possibility of yet another Mongolian Yokozuna must send shivers down the collective spine of the NSK...

Even the idea of Kakuryu getting a yusho before a Japanese guy getting one must be frightening to them. Kyokutenho was already bad enough...

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Is Kakuryu now on the Yokozuna run?

The last time he collected more than 10 wins was in 2012. And he has done that only twice while at Ozeki rank.

As good as he was this basho, all talk about any Yokozuna run is premature until he keeps this level of performance going for a few more basho. Just remember what happened with Kotooshu and Baruto (and they both actually won a tournament).

Next tournament will be very telling and interesting in this regard.

If he pulls another splendid performance, then we can talk about a Yok-run.

Edited by JariM
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Did any one else observe the wonderful poise of the ring sweeper at the end of the Hakuho Kakuryu bout?

As at least a ton of rikishi was barreling toward his corner, the ring sweeper calmly removes the water bucket, allows the Yokozuna and Ozeki fly past his shoulder, replaces the bucket and continues sweeping as the crowd goes wild.

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ST-genetically induced tin-foil-hat talk: Hakuho was nowhere near intending to win the regulation bout. Let's call it "Career Strategy".

Re. Kakuryu

He has been a very convenient opponent for so many other rikishi in need of a win in the past, I assume that his book has quite a few assets noted down. If the top three Mongolians would play it for real, the Japanese interest in the sport would already have folded by now. Kakuryu is a far more superior wrestler as he usually cares to show. IMHO.

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ST-genetically induced tin-foil-hat talk: Hakuho was nowhere near intending to win the regulation bout. Let's call it "Career Strategy".

Re. Kakuryu

He has been a very convenient opponent for so many other rikishi in need of a win in the past, I assume that his book has quite a few assets noted down. If the top three Mongolians would play it for real, the Japanese interest in the sport would already have folded by now. Kakuryu is a far more superior wrestler as he usually cares to show. IMHO.

I agree completely on both points.

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This basho, I noted something interesting while watching Kakuryu bouts. In contrast to so many other guys who really have to test their limit in order to succeed, he seems to lose any kind of aggression right at the instant when he ensured victory. He then seems to instantly switch to some kind of calm or even gentle mode of introspection. Maybe that's his personality, but to me it comes across as if he didn't even have to go all out in order to take care of most of his opponents.

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