Hatsu 2014 Discussion - *contains spoilers

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

He said "One last time, bitch, one last time..."

[Kintamayama 47,343]

Just wondering if there are any lip reading Bulgarian sumo fans out there who could let me know what Kotooshu said after his bout with Kisenosato?

It looked to me like the only word in Bulgarian I know- "Maĭnata". I'm prettttty sure he said that and I am not joking.

Edited January 23, 2014 by Kintamayama

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

Miyabiyama!! Jesus...I probably watched it. How about before that??? Pretty rare I reckon.

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

And Akinomaki...thanks for quoting the Miyabiyama info...I don't read all the threads and I actually thought that my question had very likely already been asked (and answered). My bad (laziness).

[Akinomaki 41,850]

Looks like Kisenosato has dislocated his right big toe, so far he cooled it with ice.

Kitanoumi riji-cho expects it to be difficult for him to get kachi-koshi

http://sankei.jp.msn.com/sports/news/140123/mrt14012320070006-n1.htm

[ALAKTORN 346]

Oh my god, what’s happening to our ōzeki…

[Kintamayama 47,343]

Looks like Kisenosato has dislocated his right big toe, so far he cooled it with ice.

Kitanoumi riji-cho expects it to be difficult for him to get kachi-koshi

http://sankei.jp.msn.com/sports/news/140123/mrt14012320070006-n1.htm

No way. His big toe was Shirley injured before. Kudos to the Japanese announcer who caught the big toe thing immediately, as I quoted on the day 12 video.

[Akinomaki 41,850]

Miyabiyama!! Jesus...I probably watched it. How about before that??? Pretty rare I reckon.

Same with 6 basho later Asashio (now Takasago, former ozeki) even won that first ozeki bout against Takanohana I, but he already had a top-knot.

Winning in the 7th basho were Musoyama (top-knot?) against Konishiki and Yutakayama (also later ozeki) against Kotogahama in 1962.

http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20140123/sum14012305210001-n1.html

[Kintamayama 47,343]

Winning in the 7th basho were Musoyama (top-knot?) against Konishiki and Yutakayama (also later ozeki) against Kotogahama in 1962.

http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20140123/sum14012305210001-n1.html

Musouyama also beat Akebono in that basho and got his first kinboshi. He faced the Hanada brothers who were Ozeki and lost to them both. He faced the three Ozeki (including Konishiki and also Akebono- in the first four days). He was ranked M3. Endou is M10..Yutakayama-also M3. Miyabiyama was M7. Asashio was M6. Just in case.

[Asashosakari 20,287]

Miyabiyama!! Jesus...I probably watched it. How about before that??? Pretty rare I reckon.

Same with 6 basho later Asashio (now Takasago, former ozeki) even won that first ozeki bout against Takanohana I, but he already had a top-knot.

Winning in the 7th basho were Musoyama (top-knot?) against Konishiki and Yutakayama (also later ozeki) against Kotogahama in 1962.

http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20140123/sum14012305210001-n1.html

Nikkan says that Endo winning today would have been the first no-top knot victory against an ozeki in the six-basho era, so I guess Musoyama already had one. Edited January 23, 2014 by Asashosakari

[dingo 1,483]

Didn't Takayasu put his hand down first there? Sure looked like it to me.

And Aoiyama is back to his trusty hatakikomis that we saw a lot of just a few basho ago.

[Asashosakari 20,287]

Kisenosato-Hakuho already tomorrow - they want to keep Hakuho-Kakuryu for the last day.

I was surprised at the posts here thinking they’d still have Kise on senshūraku. I’m really no sumō expert, but I thought they’d keep the most exciting match for the final day.

It's only a switch of one Y-O match with another Y-O match, that probably made it more likely this time. They didn't switch Hakuho-Haru (Y-Y) and Hakuho-Kise (Y-O) all the times that Kise performed better than Haru though. Edited January 24, 2014 by Asashosakari

[Vikanohara 171]

Ipponzeoi!! Satoyama pulled one against Tochinowaka.

I already gave him credits for using rare kimarite this basho, now even an ipponzeoi, wow !

[Vikanohara 171]

From recent history, this guy won 3x by ipponzeoi in his career : twice as Sato, once as Marikomaru.

This fellow as well, under his first shikona, his second and his third. :-) And one more in the eighties.

Recent rikishi having won twice by ipponzeoi : Takekaze, Sagatsukasa (once as Isobe), Nionoumi & Mizakura.

Tochinowaka isn't the only one having lost twice this way.

And this was probably the most famous one.

Almost as rare, Tenkaiho's chongake against Sotairyu, of which this is an example.

Kyokutaisei has no less than 14 of them (of 224/2 in the sumo database).

That's even more than half of them since 2008 !!!

Tokitenku has 4 of them. Asasekiryu is on a decent 3-0, twice against Wakanosato, who's on 0-3.

And then there was also a 3rd zubuneri this basho, almost reaching 300 entries in the database.

Last one in Makuuchi though was in 1998.

Hirosegawa had an 11-4 record as a sekitori in the '40s-'50s. Weird that he also lost 4x by zubuneri.

It would make a nice band name. (Band playing...)

Edited January 24, 2014 by Vikanohara

[Mintofuji 18]

Chiyoo has his 13th straight yorikiri bout, a win against Yakanoyama.

[kuroimori 1,634]

Big Mongolian Makushita Tsukedashi

Ichinojo

beat Amuru today and finishes 6-1.

To erveryone in upper makushita, Juryo and lower Makuuchi: Be afraid, be very afraid! :-S

[Jakusotsu 6,401]

To erveryone in upper makushita, Juryo and lower Makuuchi: Be afraid, be very afraid! :-S

Except for Yamatofuji, of course B-)

[Masumasumasu 902]

Endo takes down Kotoushu.

Kokonoe has a fancy watch.

[ALAKTORN 346]

Ōsh has a really tough opponent in Endō tomorrow, I think… I think Endō will win…

I was hoping to be wrong.

Kisenosato better not beat Kakuryū tomorrow. Aoiyama has had another day able to do his own sumō, I like it. Endō will probably win a sanshō.

[Andreas21 221]

Endo has just cleared the Ozeki space he is soon to occupy.

(I know, technically it doesn't make sense...)

[CT3* 331]

I'm really curious to see what Kotooushuu does next. Even recovering from an injury, he managed to get some quality wins. Does he attempt to make it back to Ozeki over the next two basho? Or does he pack it in?

[Vikanohara 171]

decisive day 13, on discussion page 13, how convenient, and therefor in 13 lines :

- it will be a Yonamine-Tokkoriki playoff in Jonokuchi, a rematch of day 1, which went to the new kid

- at least Ryuden won his first one after another abscence, though only against a guy with a 125-307 record

- in Jonidan it will be a decider between Asakoki & Kotoninsei, 2nd Jd Yusho for the former or 2 in a row for the latter ?

- so no Daishoki, who lost to veteran Fujiarashi, while Asakoki managed to beat the Sd title candidate on next line

- no playoff in Sandanme, as Kisenowaka lost to hand another Yusho to Horikiri (after that small hickup last basho)

- Tamao isn't back to Ms yet, though at least he managed a 5-2, while Ikeru still finished on 4-3 after that 1-3 start

- in Makushita we were expecting a big 6-1 kettei-sen, though Higoarashi simply beat Tosayutaka to remain undefeated

- so Ichinojo, Kairyu, Hitenryu & two others had to settle for a Jun-Yusho, Ishiura must be happy with 5-2 (still not worse than that)

- at the back, Masakaze managed to survive in Makushita, but only just, while Baraki is sent down again without a single win

- in the midfield, Onosho & Koba still managed to get their KK, so no wall yet for them, while Sasanoyama also finishes 4-3

- in Juryo, Seiro & Homarefuji continued their winning streak, to respectively 7 and 5

- Jokoryu could beat yesterday's leader, but not Chiyomaru today, while Sadanoumi now lost to Terunofuji

- and this probably was the most spectacular bout in Makuuchi, and an important one as well !

to finish, the usual kimarite stuff :

- first kimetaoshi this basho, and two at once, by Terunofuji & Hasugeyama

- Oseumi has an impressive 15-0 record in it, Towanoyama on 9 (3 shikona), Orora has 6, Tamanotaka on 6-1 & Maeta has 5

- while Okoryu seems to have picked it up (2-3)

- Ishiura performed the first uchigake of the basho, of which this was a famous one (though Hakuho over Baruto even more)

- Tokitenku has 17 behind his name, of which two against both Futeno & Aran

- though the master has been Satonofuji with 23-0, though 22 under his old shikona Asatofuji (up until 2007)

- Wakasuruga came close with a 21-0 record

- old Kaiho had 13, Takanoyama is on 11-1, Yamanaka 7-0 (in just a couple of basho !), Hidaka had 6 & Takekaze has 5

- Futeno even lost 4x by it, Kokkai 3 times

[Vikanohara 171]

Chiyoo has his 13th straight yorikiri bout, a win against Yakanoyama.

Actually, it's already his 16th, as last 3 of previous basho were also by Yorikiri.

[kuroimori 1,634]

Chiyoo has his 13th straight yorikiri bout, a win against Yakanoyama.

Actually, it's already his 16th, as last 3 of previous basho were also by Yorikiri.

Wow, that is quite a kimarite preference here!

Next up is a shikona change, the new one should be

Chiyoorikiri ;-)

[Akinomaki 41,850]

Day 12, 8517 spectators

http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20140124/sum14012405020000-n1.html

Kisenosato today aggravated his injury, a severe toe ligament damage, with no bone broken and no dislocation but surely much pain. Usually 3-4 weeks fixated are needed to fully heal it, but he won't go kyujo.

http://www.daily.co.jp/newsflash/sumo/2014/01/24/0006660295.shtml