Hatsu 2014 Discussion - *contains spoilers

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

Woot!

Toyonoshima scalps Kisenosato in their shonichi match up!

[Masumasumasu 902]

Woot!

Toyonoshima scalps Kisenosato in their shonichi match up!

What the hell is 'woot'?

[shimodahito 336]

and one of the biggest blood baths I've seen in kyokushuho vs chiyootori

[krindel 688]

Wow... Kise's loss must have put a biiiig damper on the local crowd enthusiasm for this basho. And Endo / Chiyotairyu / Myogiryu losing as well, doesn't help.

Looking at the bout, it seems to me like Kise's left ankle gave way when pressed laterally? There was some report about a sprained ankle before the basho, wasn't there?

[ALAKTORN 346]

What the hell is up with Hakuhō? And is it normal for a rikishi to not hand the kenshō to the yobidashi?

[bettega 433]

Does Hakuho have some grudge against Tochiozan? Seems like he tried to make some point.

[Yubinhaad 11,975]

And is it normal for a rikishi to not hand the kenshō to the yobidashi?

It was the last bout of the day, there is no next rikishi for the winner to hand the chikara-mizu to, so he goes straight back to the shitaku-beya.

[kuroimori 1,634]

What the hell is up with Hakuhō? And is it normal for a rikishi to not hand the kenshō to the yobidashi?

He is veeeeery generous, you know? ;-)

(Although, I guess Tochiozan would disagree....)

[Kintamayama 47,318]

Does Hakuho have some grudge against Tochiozan? Seems like he tried to make some point.

Clearly, he did not like the matta, and even gave O3 a hefty push right after it.

[wsfrmn 0]

I might have missed the matches, but where was Homasho? And Kotoyuki?

[bettega 433]

Does Hakuho have some grudge against Tochiozan? Seems like he tried to make some point.

Clearly, he did not like the matta, and even gave O3 a hefty push right after it.

I`m watching sumo for not very long (in fact, only since Natsu 2011 - only 17 basho) and in that time I only saw Hakuho doing that was with Kise once and now. He must be pissed, really :D

(I know henkas are despised in general, but that henka from Hauko after three matta was nice :D )

Edit: was Nagoya '12:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYlEl-E63dI

Edited January 12, 2014 by bettega

[Kintamayama 47,318]

I might have missed the matches, but where was Homasho? And Kotoyuki?

They are out of the tournament with injuries.

[Kintamayama 47,318]

(I know henkas are despised in general, but that henka from Hauko after three matta was nice :D )

Henkas are despised by certain people. I love henkas. Henkas done by Yokozuna and Ozeki are despised by nearly everyone, including myself. A flamboyant, wowowow henka is a thing of beauty!

Edited January 12, 2014 by Kintamayama

[Fukurou 534]

Does Hakuho have some grudge against Tochiozan? Seems like he tried to make some point.

Clearly, he did not like the matta, and even gave O3 a hefty push right after it.

I`m watching sumo for not very long (in fact, only since Natsu 2011 - only 17 basho) and in that time I only saw Hakuho doing that was with Kise once and now. He must be pissed, really :D

(I know henkas are despised in general, but that henka from Hauko after three matta was nice :D )

Edit: was Nagoya '12:

video snipped

This didn't involve matta, but it did involve the start. My favorite Hakuho henka was also from Natsu, but 2005, vs Dejima. M6 Dejima was 5 years removed from his Ozeki days (and still 4 years or so from retirement). SE Hakuho thought Dejima was taking too long to start, so stood up - 3 times 2 times, and very obviously complained to the gyoji both times. When it did start....

Edited January 12, 2014 by Fukurou

[wsfrmn 0]

I might have missed the matches, but where was Homasho? And Kotoyuki?

They are out of the tournament with injuries.

Thanks! Man, this banzuke has just been shredded in the last few weeks. I'm relatively new to sumo, so let me ask a naive question. Does the banzuke ever get edited after it's initially published?

[Asojima 2,874]

I might have missed the matches, but where was Homasho? And Kotoyuki?

They are out of the tournament with injuries.

Thanks! Man, this banzuke has just been shredded in the last few weeks. I'm relatively new to sumo, so let me ask a naive question. Does the banzuke ever get edited after it's initially published?

The banzuke is set in concrete about 3 days after each basho, but not announced and published until 2-3 weeks before the start of the next basho. People can die, retire, get injured, etc. in the interim, but the banzuke does not change.

[Harry 67]

I might have missed the matches, but where was Homasho? And Kotoyuki?

They are out of the tournament with injuries.

Thanks! Man, this banzuke has just been shredded in the last few weeks. I'm relatively new to sumo, so let me ask a naive question. Does the banzuke ever get edited after it's initially published?

The banzuke is set in concrete about 3 days after each basho, but not announced and published until 2-3 weeks before the start of the next basho. People can die, retire, get injured, etc. in the interim, but the banzuke does not change.

Well, there was that one time...

http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=16086&hl=%2Bbanzuke+%2Bblacked#entry152873

[Mark.Buckton 68]

I might have missed the matches, but where was Homasho? And Kotoyuki?

They are out of the tournament with injuries.

Thanks! Man, this banzuke has just been shredded in the last few weeks. I'm relatively new to sumo, so let me ask a naive question. Does the banzuke ever get edited after it's initially published?

The banzuke is set in concrete about 3 days after each basho, but not announced and published until 2-3 weeks before the start of the next basho. People can die, retire, get injured, etc. in the interim, but the banzuke does not change.

Well, there was that one time...

http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=16086&hl=%2Bbanzuke+%2Bblacked#entry152873

and the banzuke did not change.

Were any ranks altered?

[Ajisen 15]

Special guest today was Daemon but the very special guest to me was former Miyabiyama. Good to see him back on screen.

Daemaon then did the past present and future stars of sumo.

Nice run down on 2013 with clips of Miyabiyama and Robo and Baruto.

Then came the Kise-promo clips "worthy opponent " of the Yokozuna. Very telling they (Japanese commentators) consider the worthy opponent is Hakuho not Harumafuji.

NB Ross is a KISS fan. Who knew??

Edited January 13, 2014 by Ajisen

[Mark.Buckton 68]

Special guest today was Daemon but the very special guest to me was former Miyabiyama. Good to see him back on screen.

Daemaon then did the past present and future stars of sumo.

Nice run down on 2013 with clips of Miyabiyama and Robo and Baruto.

Then came the Kise-promo clips "worthy opponent " of the Yokozuna. Very telling they (Japanese commentators) consider the worthy opponent is Hakuho not Harumafuji.

NB Ross is a KISS fan. Who knew??

of course - look at the consistency

[Jakusotsu 6,401]

If anyone is doing big-man sumo these days, it's Satoyama (Exclamation...)

I'd rather call it submarine sumo.

[ALAKTORN 346]

Did Chiyonokuni injure himself again by doing the splits?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKjWaEr0PM

Also I thought this was a nice throw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTuuPhz6kS0

Hopefully Aoiyama is fine.

[Akinomaki 41,845]

Day 1: full house with 10605 spectators.
http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20140113/sum14011305020002-n1.html
Hakuho was happy about his 800th career win, fasted with 76 basho (jiji mentioned 77), surpassing Taiho's 79, satisfied with his henka sumo: "(After tottari failed) Attacking sharp and swift, I managed to go forward."
http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2014/01/12/kiji/K20140112007374720.html
706 makuuchi wins are the most for a rikishi of foreign origin, equalling Musashimaru.
http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2014/01/13/kiji/K20140113007374580.html
http://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/sports/sumou/223518/

[Akinomaki 41,845]

Toyonoshima expected raw eggs being thrown at him - instead the fans yesterday for 30 minutes demanded his sign and to take photos with him.
http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/sumo/news/p-sp-tp3-20140113-1243373.html

[Jakusotsu 6,401]

Toyonoshima expected raw eggs being thrown at him - instead the fans yesterday for 30 minutes demanded his sign and to take photos with him.

Seems like Kisenosato isn't quite as popular as some people want him to be.