Pick The Yusho Winners Nagoya 2013

[Itachi 396]

Hi Everyone,

Until further notice, the game will run just as it has the last couple of times. I will compile the results and post them as best as I can on this thread.

This is a pre-basho game where each player selects a rikishi from each of 8 sections of the banzuke. The player earns points for each win, each kachikoshi, and each yusho earned by their team of 8 rikishi. The sections of the banzuke are these:

Sanyaku (Y through K)

Maegashira

Juryo

Upper Makushita (Ms1-15 )

Lower Makushita (Ms16-60 plus tsukedashi if any)

Sandanme

Jonidan

Jonokuchi

That's it! Simple to understand, difficult to master. The hallmarks of any engaging game.

Please send your 8 selections to me before the beginning of action on Shonichi.

Itachi: nmatsuo@shaw.ca or by pm here at the forum

As a reminder, I am only a temporary caretaker of this game until Oshirokita can address the reconstruction of his system. All banzuke, website, and records updates will be on hold until then but the game itself and results postings will continue here on this thread.

Good luck with your picks.

Don't forget to check the kyujo list and email any replacements that may become necessary!

Itachi

[Vikanohara 171]

Will the game ever be back as it was ?

[GONZABUROW 0]

Sanyaku (Y through K) Hakuho

Maegashira Okinoumi

Juryo Homasho

Upper Makushita (Ms1-15 ) Wakamisho

Lower Makushita (Ms16-60 plus tsukedashi if any) Tosayutaka

Sandanme Ishiura

Jonidan Shineiyama

Jonokuchi Ikeru

GONZABUROW

[Itachi 396]

PTYW Nagoya 2013

Gonzaburow

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Jejima

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Chishafuwaku

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Takanorappa

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w

l

k

y

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w

l

k

y

_

w

l

k

y

_

w

l

k

y

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Okinoumi

9

6

1

0

Sokokurai

6

9

0

0

Kaisei

11

4

1

0

Tochiozan

10

5

1

0

Homasho

9

6

1

0

Osunaarashi

10

5

1

0

Homasho

9

6

1

0

Osunaarashi

10

5

1

0

Wakamisho

6

1

1

0

Wakamisho

6

1

1

0

Kizenryu

3

4

0

0

Hamaguchi

2

3

0

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Amuru

6

1

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Onosho

6

1

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Daishoho

7

0

1

2

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Ikeru

7

0

1

2

Kaminoyama

5

2

1

0

Horikiri

6

1

1

0

Horikiri

6

1

1

0

total score

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total score

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total score

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total score

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73

61

19

8

4

70

59

21

7

4

68

59

21

7

2

67

58

20

7

2

Torafujii

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Achiyama

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Genzai (drone)

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Koorifuu

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w

l

k

y

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w

l

k

y

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w

l

k

y

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w

l

k

y

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Tochinoshin

3

3

0

0

Tochinoshin

3

3

0

0

Tochinoshin

3

3

0

0

Tochinoshin

3

3

0

0

Homasho

9

6

1

0

Tochinowaka

10

5

1

0

Homasho

9

6

1

0

Daikiho

7

8

0

0

Wakamisho

6

1

1

0

Wakamisho

6

1

1

0

Wakamisho

6

1

1

0

Wakamisho

6

1

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Onosho

6

1

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Daishoho

7

0

1

2

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Daishoho

7

0

1

2

Horikiri

6

1

1

0

Horikiri

6

1

1

0

Horikiri

6

1

1

0

Horikiri

6

1

1

0

total score

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total score

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total score

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total score

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66

55

16

7

4

64

55

16

7

2

63

54

17

7

2

63

53

18

6

4

Edited July 21, 2013 by Itachi

[Itachi 396]

Profomisakari

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Holleshoryu

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Mukashi (drone)

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Kuroimori

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w

l

k

y

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w

l

k

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w

l

k

y

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w

l

k

y

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Tochinoshin

3

3

0

0

Chiyonokuni

2

4

0

0

Kotoyuki

8

7

1

0

Okinoumi

9

6

1

0

Homasho

9

6

1

0

Osunaarashi

10

5

1

0

Kagamio

6

9

0

0

Homasho

9

6

1

0

Daieisho

3

4

0

0

Daieisho

3

4

0

0

Daieisho

3

4

0

0

Kimikaze

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Ryuden

1

2

0

0

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Tanahashi

5

2

1

0

Ikeru

7

0

1

2

Ikeru

7

0

1

2

Horikiri

6

1

1

0

Aokishin

5

2

1

0

total score

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total score

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total score

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total score

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62

52

19

6

4

62

52

19

6

4

61

53

27

6

2

61

52

24

7

2

Senkoho

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Vikanohara

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KitaViki

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Flohru

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w

l

k

y

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w

l

k

y

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w

l

k

y

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w

l

k

y

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Tochinoshin

3

3

0

0

Tochinoshin

3

3

0

0

Tokushoryu

9

6

1

0

Tochinoshin

3

3

0

0

Homasho

9

6

1

0

Osunaarashi

10

5

1

0

Homarefuji

7

8

0

0

Homasho

9

6

1

0

Hamaguchi

2

3

0

0

Hamaguchi

2

3

0

0

Higonojo

4

3

1

0

Kimikaze

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Kotokuzan

2

5

0

0

Ryuden

1

2

0

0

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Shineiyama

6

1

1

0

Ikeru

7

0

1

2

Horikiri

6

1

1

0

Matsuda

5

2

1

0

Ikeru

7

0

1

2

total score

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total score

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total score

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total score

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61

51

18

6

4

59

51

18

6

2

59

51

29

6

2

59

49

18

6

4

Edited July 21, 2013 by Itachi

[Itachi 396]

Aderechelseamaru

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Itachi

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Hakuho

13

2

1

2

Hakuho

13

2

1

2

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Tochinoshin

3

3

0

0

Tochinoshin

3

3

0

0

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Homasho

9

6

1

0

Osunaarashi

10

5

1

0

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Sasanoyama

2

5

0

0

Hamaguchi

2

3

0

0

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Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

Tosayutaka

5

2

1

0

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Ishiura

6

1

1

0

Ryuden

1

2

0

0

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Tanahashi

5

2

1

0

Daishoho

7

0

1

2

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Kaminoyama

5

2

1

0

Horikiri

6

1

1

0

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total score

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total score

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56

48

23

6

2

56

47

18

5

4

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Edited July 21, 2013 by Itachi

[Itachi 396]

PTYW Nagoya 2013 Final Standings - Congratulations Gonzaburow!

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score

wins

losses

kk

yusho

Gonzaburow

73

61

19

8

4

Jejima

70

59

21

7

4

Chishafuwaku

68

59

21

7

2

Takanorappa

67

58

20

7

2

Torafujii

66

55

16

7

4

Achiyama

64

55

16

7

2

Genzai (drone)

63

54

17

7

2

Koorifuu

63

53

18

6

4

Profomisakari

62

52

19

6

4

Holleshoryu

62

52

19

6

2

Mukashi (drone)

61

53

27

6

2

Kuroimori

61

52

24

7

2

Senkoho

61

51

18

6

4

Vikanohara

59

51

18

6

2

KitaViki

59

51

29

6

2

Flohru

59

49

18

6

4

Aderechelseamaru

56

48

23

6

2

Itachi

56

47

18

5

4

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Edited July 22, 2013 by Itachi

[Itachi 396]

The standings and detailed results for Day 2 are posted above.

For the detailed tables, I have been arranging them manually in order of the current standings but I won't have time to do that every day. Today, they are arranged in the default order which is roughly in the order that I received your entries.

Good luck on Day 3 and thanks for playing!

[Itachi 396]

The standings and detailed results for each team are updated for Day 3.

Last time I didn't have the teams arranged in standings order because I had forgotten about the system I had set up to do it automatically. This morning, I remembered how to use it and they will be arranged properly from now.

[Itachi 396]

The tables have been updated for Day 4.

[Itachi 396]

The tables have been updated for Day 5.

Gonzaburow shares the lead with the drone Genzai that represents the most popular choices. Fortunately for Gonzaburow he did not choose the most popular Maegashira, Tochinoshin, who appears to be injured.

[Achiyama 1,276]

It's very unfortunate to have an injured rikishi on your squad. Even if the other choices are perfect this only pick can screw up the whole basho.

As you know many other games have substitutes for such cases. And nobody can predict which rikishi will get injured.

I have a suggestion, and open it for discussion:

I suggest when we submit our teams to submit also a back-up team (of all positions as they are from different divisions). In case of an injury of a rikishi from team "A", for the rest of the basho he will be replaced with the corresponding rikishi from the back-up team (team "B").

What do you think? Is it doable?

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated for Day 6.

As for replacements, I understand the frustration. It's happened to me a few times, including this basho. This isn't the only game affected by kyujo. Luck is an element of this and every sumo game to a degree.

I would be reluctant to make any fundamental changes to this games without the approval of its creator, Oshirokita.

Also, I'm not sure that a majority of regular players would want the change. Some of us like this game partly for its simplicity.

I used to encourage players of the Sandanme Game to select a back-up team but very few ever did. I doubt many players of this game would be enthusiastic about it either. I pick back-up teams for all pre-basho entries but I believe I'm in the minority.

As for the 'doability', I could easily replace a kyujo rikishi and his record with a replacement and their record but it would be cumbersome to combine the injured rikishi's scores before going kyujo with the replacement's scores afterwards.

Any other thoughts on this?

Good luck on Day 7!

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated for Day 7.

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated for Day 8.

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated for Day 9.

Gonzaburow leads Chishafuwaku by a couple of wins.

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated for Day 10.

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated for Day 11.

Gonzaburow is leading while I have found my way past KitaViki to the other end of the standings.

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated for Day 12.

Gonzaburow has a small lead over Jejima.

I haven't incorporated any yusho scores yet. Maybe some of the yusho have been decided already. I'll look for that tomorrow.

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated for Day 13.

Gonzaburow is looking good with a 3 win lead. Second place Jejima can't gain any new kk or yusho but he does have 4 bouts left by rikishi not on Gonzaburow's team so victory is not impossible for him - yet.

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated for Day 14.

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated with the final standings.

Congratulations to Gonzaburow who wins the yusho! Jejima finished 2 points behind in second place thanks in part to his unusual decision to choose Sokokurai (unless Tochinoshin would have been his next choice).

Thanks for playing everyone!

[Vikanohara 171]

The tables are updated with the final standings.

I guess it still shows the standings after day 14, no ?

[Itachi 396]

The tables are updated with the final standings.

I guess it still shows the standings after day 14, no ?

Thanks for pointing that out. I had replaced all the team detail tables and then I probably forgot that I hadn't replaced the standings table. In the other threads, I have the standings table in the first post but here it comes after.

Anyway, I've replaced it now.