krindel 671 Posted May 23, 2013 I think Daikiho is having the worst makuuchi debut that I can personally remember...I know what you mean, but the worst Makuuchi debut I can remember is Towanoyama's. Well, true, but an injury is an injury (I also remember Masunoyama's more recent bad luck in his debut)... Daikiho seems to be fine physically, just performing really bad... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugman 380 Posted May 23, 2013 I have to admit i didn't think Kisenosato would have beaten Harumafuji today, and certainly not by making it look easy as he did, i'm impressed, thing is though Hakuho's fire is on fire, and i think he'l take the Yusho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Igordemorais 75 Posted May 23, 2013 Kisenosato is looking beastlike.... he will likely run through Kotoshogiku. This Yusho is anyone's to take at this point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 17,280 Posted May 23, 2013 Nobody's remembering Daimanazuru? For shame... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,431 Posted May 23, 2013 Aioyama won't be winning any Oscars with that performance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted May 23, 2013 Oh boy, Harumafuji really wanted to give the right inside to the Kid, didn't he... (Sigh...) Kise was considerably ahead on the tachi-ai. It was all downhill from there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 17,280 Posted May 23, 2013 Oh boy, Harumafuji really wanted to give the right inside to the Kid, didn't he... (Sigh...) Kise was considerably ahead on the tachi-ai. It was all downhill from there. No, no, no, anytime something happens that will be appreciated by the audience in some way, it's been engineered. Anything else is completely impossible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,431 Posted May 23, 2013 Oh boy, Harumafuji really wanted to give the right inside to the Kid, didn't he... (Sigh...) Kise was considerably ahead on the tachi-ai. It was all downhill from there. Yep, he just looks totally in the zone. His whole career has been periods of improvement followed by plateaus where he stagnates for a while. Maybe he's just reached that point where he can finally get to the next level? I'm happy to call shenanigans on the Osh match because Aioyama couldn't have tried any less, but the Kise one looked completely legit. Let's see if he can handle the pressure and get to the final day unbeaten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 42,292 Posted May 23, 2013 Oh boy, Harumafuji really wanted to give the right inside to the Kid, didn't he... (Sigh...) Hey, cover yourself..your ST is hanging out again..:-)) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 671 Posted May 23, 2013 Oh boy, Harumafuji really wanted to give the right inside to the Kid, didn't he... (Sigh...) Kise was considerably ahead on the tachi-ai. It was all downhill from there. Yep, he just looks totally in the zone. His whole career has been periods of improvement followed by plateaus where he stagnates for a while. Maybe he's just reached that point where he can finally get to the next level? I'm happy to call shenanigans on the Osh match because Aioyama couldn't have tried any less, but the Kise one looked completely legit. Let's see if he can handle the pressure and get to the final day unbeaten From now on, I only see a possibility in Hakuho beating Kise, anyone of the two remaining Ozeki managing to best him would be a HUGE surprise for me.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,157 Posted May 23, 2013 Nobody's remembering Daimanazuru? For shame... I wanted to say something similar, but I prefer this link. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 671 Posted May 23, 2013 Nobody's remembering Daimanazuru? For shame... I wanted to say something similar, but I prefer this link. The way Daikiho is going, he has a real chance of out-performing them all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 17,280 Posted May 23, 2013 Nobody's remembering Daimanazuru? For shame...I wanted to say something similar, but I prefer this link.The way Daikiho is going, he has a real chance of out-performing them all...Or maybe in-performing, given the direction... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,595 Posted May 23, 2013 Nobody's remembering Daimanazuru? For shame... I wanted to say something similar, but I prefer this link. There is one handy rule for the guts-based gamer: Rikishi in a division debut tend to be quite successful, except when they are oldies who just got promoted as part of the typical ebb and flow movements in a career. Compared to other low-performing debutants, Daikiho is really exceptional as he is so young (23). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 17,280 Posted May 23, 2013 There is one handy rule for the guts-based gamer: Rikishi in a division debut tend to be quite successful, except when they are oldies who just got promoted as part of the typical ebb and flow movements in a career.I don't know if I agree with that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wanderer 159 Posted May 23, 2013 Kisenosataurs finally hatches after we waited him for 65 million years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsubame 332 Posted May 23, 2013 Unexpected leading with 12-0 is the perfect moment to finish with 12-3 :-P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 1,842 Posted May 23, 2013 Oh boy, Harumafuji really wanted to give the right inside to the Kid, didn't he... (Sigh...) I saw Moti's video just now and take everything back. It looked quite dodgy for me seeing it live, but now I will gladly renounce. (Glad to see though that not only my reflexes seem to be in good shape, eh?) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronnie 221 Posted May 23, 2013 Nobody's remembering Daimanazuru? For shame... I wanted to say something similar, but I prefer this link. There is one handy rule for the guts-based gamer: Rikishi in a division debut tend to be quite successful, except when they are oldies who just got promoted as part of the typical ebb and flow movements in a career. Compared to other low-performing debutants, Daikiho is really exceptional as he is so young (23). Isn't he Hakuho's favourite spank toy for keiko? He's probably burned out by the time a basho comes around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,157 Posted May 23, 2013 Isn't he Hakuho's favourite spank toy for keiko? He's probably burned out by the time a basho comes around. That remembers me of Ryuo... he at least had a 10-5 makuuchi debut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,170 Posted May 23, 2013 That remembers me of Ryuo... he at least had a 10-5 makuuchi debut.Yup, been there when he did - I probably jinxed him. One of the most unmongolian Mongolians ever (bodywise), too bad his neck prevented him from further glory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,349 Posted May 23, 2013 Didn't Kise's beya finally agree to start going to degeiko recently? Maybe getting to beat up on someone other than Takanoyama was what Kisenosato needed? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 202 Posted May 23, 2013 Didn't Kise's beya finally agree to start going to degeiko recently? Maybe getting to beat up on someone other than Takanoyama was what Kisenosato needed? Or Takayasu mostly nowadays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw3T2k7XdgE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukonoso 266 Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) This is the second time I've noticed what appears to be Hakuho slapping his opponent really hard in the side of their belly. Is that a common technique or just something he personally uses to break the opponent's concentration? I'll be watching for it again when he meets Kise and they get stuck in a hold. Edited May 23, 2013 by Mukonoso Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Washuyama 600 Posted May 23, 2013 This is the second time I've noticed what appears to be Hakuho slapping his opponent really hard in the side of their belly. Is that a common technique or just something he personally uses to break the opponent's concentration? I'll be watching for it again when he meets Kise and they get stuck in a hold. I think he uses that slap to elicit a reaction from his opponent so he can readily counter. Hakuho is the best I've ever seen at countering others moves. It's easier said than done, but if a rikishi doesn't beat Hakuho immediately after the tachi-ai, their chances of winning decrease significantly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
