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The Sandanme Game will run again for Natsu 2013.


Here is the usual invitation:

For the Sandanme Game, please send me your list of 15 rikishi from the usual segments of the banzuke.

Sd 1-5/6-10/11-15/16-20/21-25/26-30/31-35/36-40/41-45/46-50
51-60/61-70/71-80/81-90 and 91-100

Your rikishi earn points for each win, for a kachikoshi record, for leading their group, and a bonus for the best scoring rikishi on each team based on how close they were to the yusho winning record. The result is adjusted so that the best possible score gets a 15-0 result.

The drone Mirai knows the future and always selects the best rikishi in each group. This shows us what the best possible score would be at each stage of the game.
The drone Genzai picks the most popular rikishi from each group. This drone has tended to score well.
The drone Mukashi picks the rikishi in each group who had the best record last basho. This drone isn't expected to score well but sometimes surprises us.

Send your entries to me at nmatsuo@shaw.ca before any of your selections enter the dohyo for their match (and preferably a few hours before that).

The current banzuke for this game was posted at the end of the thread for last basho. Try this link and scroll to the end.

http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=31129&page=2

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So far I have entries from the following players:

Profomisakari

Aderechelseamaru

Holleshoryu

Chishafuwaku

Randomitsuki

Flohru

Kuroimori

Neko

Fay

Achiyama

Shiyonofuji

Itachi

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The Day 1 standings, results, and dohyo-iri are posted. We have 15 players including the 3 drones. Mirai does not appear in the standings due to lack of support but represents the best possible outcomes.

I still don't know how to eliminate the extra rows of spaces that appear before each table since the forum upgrades last year - sorry!

Thanks to everyone for playing and good luck on Day 2!

p.s. one more thing - Aoimaru did not appear for his Day 1 match and this will affect some lineups if he does go kyujo. Mukashi currently has made a different selection in expectation of the kyujo but will reclaim Aoimaru if it doesn't happen. Players who selected Aoimaru will receive Mukashi's pick for that group and there were 4 such players.

p.p.s. Aderechelseamaru sent 2 picks for each of the final 5 groups so I only entered every second one (this way I avoided a kyujo replacement).

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p.p.s. Aderechelseamaru sent 2 picks for each of the final 5 groups so I only entered every second one (this way I avoided a kyujo replacement).

i guess i din't read the rules ..... i thought it was one pick for every 10 rikishi on the banzuke. But i was wrong .... (In jonokuchi...)

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The Day 2 results are posted above.

Flohru leads.

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The Day 1 standings, results, and dohyo-iri are posted. We have 15 players including the 3 drones. Mirai does not appear in the standings due to lack of support but represents the best possible outcomes.

I still don't know how to eliminate the extra rows of spaces that appear before each table since the forum upgrades last year - sorry!

Thanks to everyone for playing and good luck on Day 2!

p.s. one more thing - Aoimaru did not appear for his Day 1 match and this will affect some lineups if he does go kyujo. Mukashi currently has made a different selection in expectation of the kyujo but will reclaim Aoimaru if it doesn't happen. Players who selected Aoimaru will receive Mukashi's pick for that group and there were 4 such players.

p.p.s. Aderechelseamaru sent 2 picks for each of the final 5 groups so I only entered every second one (this way I avoided a kyujo replacement).

Hi Itachi,

Does the same apply to Kotokensei - that I picked before I read the kyujo announcements? :-)

Neko

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The Day 1 standings, results, and dohyo-iri are posted. We have 15 players including the 3 drones. Mirai does not appear in the standings due to lack of support but represents the best possible outcomes.

I still don't know how to eliminate the extra rows of spaces that appear before each table since the forum upgrades last year - sorry!

Thanks to everyone for playing and good luck on Day 2!

p.s. one more thing - Aoimaru did not appear for his Day 1 match and this will affect some lineups if he does go kyujo. Mukashi currently has made a different selection in expectation of the kyujo but will reclaim Aoimaru if it doesn't happen. Players who selected Aoimaru will receive Mukashi's pick for that group and there were 4 such players.

p.p.s. Aderechelseamaru sent 2 picks for each of the final 5 groups so I only entered every second one (this way I avoided a kyujo replacement).

Hi Itachi,

Does the same apply to Kotokensei - that I picked before I read the kyujo announcements? :-)

Neko

Yes, somehow I missed that. You'll see him replaced with Mukashi's pick in the next results post.

Periodically, I check for rikishi that have no wins or losses (other than kyujo) and replace them. I would have noticed this one eventually.

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The day 3 results are posted.

Oops, I didn't replace Kotokensei for Neko. I'll repost once I've fixed that.

Done. The results for Akatsuki were already there but I needed to do an extra step to replace the name Kotokensei on that table.

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The Day 4 standings and results are posted.

At the top, it's still Randomitsuki followed by Flohru.

I made some kyujo replacements for Chishafuwaku and Holleshoryu so now everyones lineup is full from the start of the basho. Anyone going kyujo after having appeared for a match does not get replaced as usual in this game.

I've been compiling the player records for this game going back to the first basho in Nagoya 2006. I hope to be able to answer some questions such as how many yusho each player has won and what the best and worst win/loss records have been.

40 different players (not including the 3 drones) have participated in at least one basho of this game. This Natsu 2013 basho is our 40th basho of competition. There were only 5 human players in the first test basho and 2 of us are still active (myself and Fay). Fay was kyujo only once (last basho!) which gives her the lead in appearances (I don't count though I have never been kyujo).

More of this later.

Thanks again for playing!

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The Day 5 standings and results are posted. I didn't have time to put the detailed results in order this time but I'm designing a new system so I can do that more quickly in the future.

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Sandanme Game Natsu 2013 Final Standings - Congratulations Randomitsuki!

shikona

wins

losses

est. wins/15

kk

group

best

yusho points

score

Randomitsuki

68

37

9.71

12

6

7

15

11.65

Flohru

68

37

9.71

13

4

7

15

11.54

Kuroimori

66

39

9.43

12

5

6

12

10.96

Itachi

64

41

9.14

11

4

7

15

10.85

Neko

61

44

8.71

8

5

6

12

9.92

Holleshoryu

58

47

8.29

9

3

6

12

9.46

Shiyonofuji

57

48

8.14

10

3

6

12

9.46

Chishafuwaku

55

50

7.86

8

4

7

15

9.46

Genzai

55

50

7.86

9

3

6

12

9.12

Profomisakari

55

50

7.86

9

2

6

12

9

Fay

55

50

7.86

7

4

6

12

9

Achiyama

54

51

7.71

8

4

6

12

9

Aderechelseamaru

48

57

6.86

7

1

6

12

7.85

Mukashi

45

60

6.43

6

2

6

12

7.5

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Sandanme Game Natsu 2013 Results

Randomitsuki

Flohru

Kuroimori

Itachi

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

Sasakiyama

6

1

1

1

Aisaka

4

3

1

0

Sasakiyama

6

1

1

1

Rendaiyama

3

4

0

0

Daieisho

7

0

1

1

Daieisho

7

0

1

1

Notoazuma

4

3

1

0

Daieisho

7

0

1

1

Towanoyama

4

3

1

0

Towanoyama

4

3

1

0

Shiroryu

2

5

0

0

Ota

1

6

0

0

Amuru

6

1

1

1

Amuru

6

1

1

1

Amuru

6

1

1

1

Amuru

6

1

1

1

Kotodaigo

3

4

0

0

Kotootori

3

4

0

0

Kotootori

3

4

0

0

Kotodaigo

3

4

0

0

Hitachigo

5

2

1

1

Sasayama

4

3

1

0

Sasayama

4

3

1

0

Sasayama

4

3

1

0

Hakuyozan

5

2

1

0

Hakuyozan

5

2

1

0

Okoryu

6

1

1

1

Azumasato

5

2

1

0

Tamadaiki

5

2

1

1

Tamadaiki

5

2

1

1

Tamadaiki

5

2

1

1

Tamadaiki

5

2

1

1

Tamao

4

3

1

0

Tochihayate

2

5

0

0

Tamao

4

3

1

0

Tamao

4

3

1

0

Chiyokiryu

3

4

0

0

Takamai

4

3

1

0

Takamai

4

3

1

0

Chiyokiryu

3

4

0

0

Asanotosa

4

3

1

0

Asanotosa

4

3

1

0

Asanotosa

4

3

1

0

Owaka

4

3

1

0

Hitenryu

5

2

1

0

Hitenryu

5

2

1

0

Hitenryu

5

2

1

0

Hitenryu

5

2

1

0

Kinunonami

5

2

1

1

Kinunonami

5

2

1

1

Kinunonami

5

2

1

1

Wakayama

5

2

1

1

Fukushima

4

3

1

0

Mitotsukasa

5

2

1

0

Mitotsukasa

5

2

1

0

Hayashi

4

3

1

0

Kotomatsuo

2

5

0

0

Toho

5

2

1

0

Wakadaiju

3

4

0

0

Tochinokuni

5

2

1

0

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

totals:

68

37

12

6

totals:

68

37

13

4

totals:

66

39

12

5

totals:

64

41

11

4

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Neko

Holleshoryu

Shiyonofuji

Chishafuwaku

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

Sasakiyama

6

1

1

1

sasakiyama

6

1

1

1

Kabutoiwa

2

5

0

0

KABUTOIWA

2

5

0

0

Minanosato

3

4

0

0

Minanosato

3

4

0

0

Minanosato

3

4

0

0

DAIEISHO

7

0

1

1

Akatsuki

3

4

0

0

aratoshi

3

4

0

0

Towanoyama

4

3

1

0

AKATSUKI

3

4

0

0

Amuru

6

1

1

1

amuru

6

1

1

1

Amuru

6

1

1

1

AMURU

6

1

1

1

Kotodaigo

3

4

0

0

aiyama

4

3

1

0

Kasugaryu

4

3

1

0

IKINOSHIMA

3

4

0

0

Sasayama

4

3

1

0

sasayama

4

3

1

0

Sasayama

4

3

1

0

KENHO

4

3

1

0

Hakuyozan

5

2

1

0

okoryu

6

1

1

1

Dewanosato

2

5

0

0

HAKUYOZAN

5

2

1

0

Tochinobori

3

4

0

0

takatenshu

1

6

0

0

Yotsuguruma

4

3

1

0

TAKATENSHU

1

6

0

0

Matsubayama

6

1

1

1

ryuozan

3

4

0

0

Tamao

4

3

1

0

TAMAO

4

3

1

0

Enshunada

2

5

0

0

takamai

4

3

1

0

Chiyokiryu

3

4

0

0

DAIJO

5

2

1

1

Kainoryu

3

4

0

0

rikito

3

4

0

0

Asanotosa

4

3

1

0

DAISHONADA

3

4

0

0

Kotorikuzan

2

5

0

0

raomaru

2

5

0

0

Chiyoshuho

2

5

0

0

SHINOHARA

3

4

0

0

Oruri

5

2

1

1

fujinokaze

4

3

1

0

Kinunonami

5

2

1

1

KINUNONAMI

5

2

1

1

Kaito

6

1

1

1

Daishojo

4

3

1

0

Kaito

6

1

1

1

Daishojo

4

3

1

0

Fujinowaka

4

3

1

0

goki

5

2

1

0

Taguchi

4

3

1

0

Hayate

0

7

0

0

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

totals:

61

44

8

5

totals:

58

47

9

3

totals:

57

48

10

3

totals:

55

50

8

4

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Genzai

Profomisakari

Fay

Achiyama

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

Kabutoiwa

2

5

0

0

Kabutoiwa

2

5

0

0

Akinoyama

4

3

1

0

Kabutoiwa

2

5

0

0

Minanosato

3

4

0

0

Minanosato

3

4

0

0

Minanosato

3

4

0

0

Minanosato

3

4

0

0

Akatsuki

3

4

0

0

Akatsuki

3

4

0

0

Akatsuki

3

4

0

0

Akatsuki

3

4

0

0

Amuru

6

1

1

1

Amuru

6

1

1

1

Daikamifusa

4

3

1

0

Amuru

6

1

1

1

Kotodaigo

3

4

0

0

Wakanofuji

2

5

0

0

Kotodaigo

3

4

0

0

Wakanofuji

2

5

0

0

Sasayama

4

3

1

0

Daionami

4

3

1

0

Kotodaishin

5

2

1

1

Genkaiho

5

2

1

1

Hakuyozan

5

2

1

0

Hakuyozan

5

2

1

0

Aomihama

2

5

0

0

Okoryu

6

1

1

1

Takatenshu

1

6

0

0

Takatenshu

1

6

0

0

Wakahikari

4

3

1

0

Takatenshu

1

6

0

0

Tamao

4

3

1

0

Tamao

4

3

1

0

Tochihayate

2

5

0

0

Tamao

4

3

1

0

Takamai

4

3

1

0

Takamai

4

3

1

0

Daijo

5

2

1

1

Takamai

4

3

1

0

Asanotosa

4

3

1

0

Rikito

3

4

0

0

Kainoryu

3

4

0

0

Rikito

3

4

0

0

Hitenryu

5

2

1

0

Hitenryu

5

2

1

0

Suekawa

3

4

0

0

Hitenryu

5

2

1

0

Kinunonami

5

2

1

1

Kinunonami

5

2

1

1

Wakayama

5

2

1

1

Kinunonami

5

2

1

1

Kaito

6

1

1

1

Fukushima

4

3

1

0

Kaito

6

1

1

1

Mitotsukasa

5

2

1

0

Hayate

0

7

0

0

Taguchi

4

3

1

0

Wakadaiju

3

4

0

0

Hayate

0

7

0

0

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

totals:

55

50

9

3

totals:

55

50

9

2

totals:

55

50

7

4

totals:

54

51

8

4

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Aderechelseamaru

Mukashi

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

_

w

l

kk

gl

Kabutoiwa

2

5

0

0

Kabutoiwa

2

5

0

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Notoazuma

4

3

1

0

Minanosato

3

4

0

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Akatsuki

3

4

0

0

Akatsuki

3

4

0

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Amuru

6

1

1

1

Amuru

6

1

1

1

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Wakanofuji

2

5

0

0

Wakanofuji

2

5

0

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Sasayama

4

3

1

0

Genkaiho

5

2

1

1

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Hakuyozan

5

2

1

0

Tochikasuga

2

5

0

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Takatenshu

1

6

0

0

Takatenshu

1

6

0

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Tamao

4

3

1

0

Tamao

4

3

1

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Enshunada

2

5

0

0

Tokiarashi

3

4

0

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Daishonada

3

4

0

0

Saio

4

3

1

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Hitenryu

5

2

1

0

Hitenryu

5

2

1

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Tokutaiho

1

6

0

0

Tokutaiho

1

6

0

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Hayashi

4

3

1

0

Daishojo

4

3

1

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

Kosenho

2

5

0

0

Hayate

0

7

0

0

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

_

totals:

48

57

7

1

totals:

45

60

6

2

totals:

.

.

.

.

totals:

.

.

.

.

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The Day 6 standings and results tables are posted.

I've made new tables which take up less space while allowing easier comparision of teams. My system will now sort these in order of the current standings so you can compare your team with players near you in the competition.

I've done the same for the PTYW game but those results won't be available until after I'm asleep tonight.

Randomitsuki has a small lead over Neko in this game. You can see now that they have 4 common rikishi on their teams.

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The Day 7 standings and results are posted.

Randomitsuki has the lead.

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The Day 8 results and standings are posted.

Randomitsuki leads. Itachi and Flohru are tied in the next position.

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The Day 9 standings and results are posted. The kk, group, and best scoring rikishi points are factored in now.

Randomitsuki leads Flohru for the top spot.

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The Day 10 results and standings are posted.

Randomitsuki leads Flohru for the top position.

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The day 11 standings and results are posted.

Randomitsuki has a good lead. Flohru is next.

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The Day 12 standings and results are posted.

Randomitsuki has a smaller lead. Flohru is close behind.

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The Day 13 standings and results are posted.

*edit* not in scoring order - resorted and reposted.

Randomitsuki has a small lead over Flohru and Itachi - Flohru just a hair in front of Itachi. Kuroimori is not far behind as well.

The yusho will certainly go to one of these 4 players. You can compare their lineups and results so far in the table in post #12 above.

Quickly looking at this table, we can see that Randomitsuki has 3 rikishi who could still earn their kachikoshi while Flohru has 4, I have just one, and Kuroimori has 2. This would seem to favour Randomitsuki and Flohru. Of Flohru's 4 potential kk, 2 are shared with Randomitsuki while 2 are unique. If Flohru's unique 3-3 rikishi both earn their kk and Randomitsuki's single unique 3-3 rikishi fails, then this could be enough to propel Flohru into the lead.

The potential kk rikishi on mine and Kuroimori's team are shared with Flohru so there probably isn't a scenario where either of us could win.

Good luck in the final 2 days!

Edited by Itachi

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The Day 14 results and standings are posted. Randomitsuki continues to lead Flohru with all others falling to far behind to challenge for the yusho.

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The final standings and results tables are posted. Congratulations to Randomitsuki who takes back the yusho from Flohru who takes the jun-yusho this time!

Thanks to everyone for playing! I have to run out now but I'll work on the banzuke and update the records soon.

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