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Nonetheless, a quite disappointing number!

Hatsu+Haru combined has improved nearly 40% on last year's (55 after 40), and the total is already almost what it was during the entire last year (56). Not sure what you were expecting...

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Nonetheless, a quite disappointing number!

Hatsu+Haru combined has improved nearly 40% on last year's (55 after 40), and the total is already almost what it was during the entire last year (56). Not sure what you were expecting...

Well, expecting is not the right expression, rather what I hoped or wished. I've only compared the Haru Basho's of the last years. 40 % sounds maybe good, but the total numbers are still poor. The benchmark can't be the last couple of years. Everything below 50 for the Haru Basho is low and will not stop the decline in total at least on the medium term.

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Well, expecting is not the right expression, rather what I hoped or wished. I've only compared the Haru Basho's of the last years. 40 % sounds maybe good, but the total numbers are still poor. The benchmark can't be the last couple of years. Everything below 50 for the Haru Basho is low and will not stop the decline in total at least on the medium term.

The recovery has to start somewhere - it's unrealistic to expect (or wish) things to get back to good from one year to the next. They're on course now for 70-75 shindeshi on the year, they only need to get back to 80-90 annually to be in good shape in the long run, IMO.

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Besides, an even better metric for judging the influx of recruits should be tenacity, not just appearing for the tests.

I don't have the numbers, but I get the impression that last years batch contained an unusually large percentage of guys who quit after only a few months. Then again, without checking I could be wrong about that...

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Besides, an even better metric for judging the influx of recruits should be tenacity, not just appearing for the tests.

I don't have the numbers, but I get the impression that last years batch contained an unusually large percentage of guys who quit after only a few months. Then again, without checking I could be wrong about that...

As it happens I just took a quick look at that before my previous post. :-) The usual washout rate of late seems to be about 30-35% within the first two years, though with some fairly large variation within that (sometimes many first-year quitters, sometimes more in the second year). Based on that the 2012 classes don't look too unusual to me so far at 0/6 Hatsu, 7/34 Haru, 2/10 Natsu. And occasional high washout rates aren't a new development - Haru 1999 had 101 recruits, but 45 were already gone after two years. (Hatsu and Natsu weren't any better that year - 4/11 and 5/10 gone.)

I agree though that that's an often overlooked aspect. I'm actually hopeful that the massive influx of fresh blood among heya owners over the last few years (which isn't finished yet) will have a positive effect on rikishi longevity, simply because they're a bit more in tune with today's youngsters.

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Takumi Kondo (17) born in Fukushima pref., now Niigata, new to Otake-beya, judo background, 168cm, 75 kg.
Was impressed by an ippon-zeoi from Sagatsukasa. He himself made a phone call to the heya and had a trial week there in December, going to greet Taiho once then.
He wants to gain weight till 125 kg and aims for juryo. He also likes Takanoyama and Satoyama, hobby is sumo and training.

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Edit: this time I was a few minutes in front - and why not multiple very much different posts on the same subject - that is nothing compared to all the redundancy within quotes

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A 17-year-old judo practitioner has joined Otake-beya, putting it into the news for something other than Taiho's death again. Takumi Kondo 近藤 匠 hails from Murakami-shi in Niigata prefecture and he enjoys sumo, but so far only watching, not doing. He's been following the goings-on intently for about three years now and as might be expected his favourites all come from the more technical side - Sagatsukasa, Takanoyama, Satoyama - with Sagatsukasa's ipponzeoi a couple of years ago having left an especially strong impression.

He called up the stable and arranged to spend a week testing the waters last December. Kondo took to the atmosphere immediately and quickly decided that pro sumo was his thing. On getting to see Taiho briefly during his stay, he recalls, "I was very tense meeting him. He told me to keep at it, and I'll do that and gambarize." Moving into the stable for good he brought some 20 DVDs of past sumo greats with him (including some of Taiho, naturally) and intends to keep studying them alongside practice. Other than his lack of sumo experience his size is an issue for now - he clocks in at just 168 cm / 75 kg. Well aware of it, Kondo plans to get to about 125 kg eventually. "I want to do sumo that will excite the audience. My first goal is juryo!" he proclaimed enthusiastically.

Edit: Oops, too slow.

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Takanohana-beya will become the first stable ever to have two pairs of twins simultaneously with the introduction of 15-year-olds Tsuyoshi 剛 and Satoshi 賢 Kamiyama 上山. They're from Sakai-machi in Ibaraki and represented their prefecture nationally in basketball, reaching third place. Their 22-year-old sister Eri also used to play soccer in national competitions during high school, so they're from a very sportive family background. No sumo experience for the brothers yet, but their father really wanted them to go into Ozumo and apparently it's been clear for some five years that they'd be taking this path eventually. They've chosen Takanohana-beya (or maybe their father has...) due to his reputation from his active days.

Older brother Tsuyoshi (distinguished by a mole near his upper lip) measures 186 cm / 120 kg and "wants to become a sumotori who can win both with technique and with power", while 187 cm / 125 kg Satoshi "wants to do sumo that takes advantage of my height and athleticism". They'll be the sixth pair of twins currently active.

Takatoshi, Satoshi, Tsuyoshi, Takageppo:

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Edit: Do they look like 120 kg to you?

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Powerhouse Sakaigawa-beya has attracted another promising recruit. 18-year-old Toshiki(?) Sakae 榮豊志樹 has just graduated from - no, not Saitama Sakae, however appropriate that would be - Kagoshima Commercial HS, another staple on the amateur sumo circuit of late. The 173 cm / 117 kg Sakae was prompted by his sumo enthusiastic father back in his kindergarten days and turned out to like the sport himself. An oshi specialist, he won a Kyushu regional tournament last year and reached the quarterfinals in last year's Kokutai junior competition. (He also captained the team to the Kokutai quarterfinals - to be seen in action

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- and the National Inter-High semis.) Originally he hails from Amami-oshima, a small island in the prefecture that's a hotbed of sumo - Sakae will be the 7th active rikishi from a population of under 70,000.

His club manager commends Sakae, "His enthusiasm for sumo is second to none, and he always did his best and never complained in his three years here." On Thursday he received a ceremonial send-off from his school, with some 800 of his co-students in attendance. "I want to repay all the people who helped me along by becoming sekitori as quickly as possible", Sakae offered in one of the less original statements ever produced by shindeshi. His inspiration is same-middle school, same-high school alum Satoyama. "I've been looking forward to turning pro. I'm not nearly strong enough yet but I'm determined to work hard and become a rikishi who does enjoyable sumo," Sakae added. He is the fourth member of the high school sumo club to go pro.

At the ceremony:

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15-year-old Katsumasa(?) Yakabe 矢ヶ部克将 from Moriguchi-shi in Osaka prefecture is joining Chiganoura-beya

Katsumasa is right, and Chiganoura-beya also have a second recruit named Kimura Masaya, who is from Aichi and that's all I have.

Meanwhile, according to the Oitekaze-beya website they'll have a total of four newbies this basho. We already know about Endo and the Mongolian Shijirbayar, although the latter has now been given the shikona Daishoho (大翔鵬).

The other two are both 15 years old. Omae Hokuto is 170cm, 110kg and from Kagawa, and will be Daishozen. Shimogama something 歩樹 is 181cm, 115kg and from Hyogo, and will be Daishoki.

Endo and Shijirbayar/Daishoho:

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Daishozen and Daishoki:

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Takasago has two new guys, very promising it seems. 22 year old Nishimura, 1.85/146 trained by ex-Makuuchi Fujinokawa at Toukai Gakuen. The other guy is 19 year old monster 1.90/176 Ueno. "I'd like to become a sekitori in three years," said Nishimura. Ueno studied to become a civil servant for one year after his high school graduation. "I just hope I don't get injured. I really have no idea regarding the banzuke," he said, seemingly wanting to let things take their natural course.

Takasago have had a sekitori for 135 consecutive years. This record is now in danger as their last sekitori Asasekiryuu is down at Juryo 11. "I hope Nishimura will be able to help keep the streak going," said ex Fujinokawa.

"Both guys have large bodies, so it seems there is a lot to expect.. Looking good.." said Takasago Oyakata.

This is shaping up to be an interesting class.

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Shindeshi-kensa today. All 39 cleared the criteria. From this time on only for the Haru basho, for those expected to get their graduation from middle school the height limit is lowered to 165 cm from 167 cm.
These 2 passed with 165 and 166 cm, Ryuta Motokashiwa (Hakkaku, Hiroshima) and Shinya Kimura (Chiganoura, Aichi, 133kg), both 15 of course.
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Takanohana-beya will become the first stable ever to have two pairs of twins simultaneously with the introduction of 15-year-olds Tsuyoshi 剛 and Satoshi 賢 Kamiyama 上山. They're from Sakai-machi in Ibaraki

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OK, something is seriously wrong with this recruit batch... Where are the baseball dropouts and windmill career changers we are used to?

These seem like young people who actually intend to do sumo and look to have a fighting potential. Impressive!

Really seems like a (small) ray of hope.

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I have to say, ever since this, I just can't get enough of those "Tochiazuma measuring shindeshi with a studious look on his face" pictures...

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OK, something is seriously wrong with this recruit batch... Where are the baseball dropouts and windmill career changers we are used to?

Those tend to populate the Natsu to Kyushu classes. The ones in Hatsu and Haru are usually kids who actually knew that they wanted to go into Ozumo.

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A few more from the shindeshi kensa, at which Endo was studiously measured at 184cm and 143kg.

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These 2 passed with 165 and 166 cm, Ryuta Motokashiwa (Hakkaku, Hiroshima) and Shinya Kimura (Chiganoura, Aichi, 133kg), both 15 of course.

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Both had some treatment for being bigger on the day.

Motokashiwa is usually 163cm, Hakkaku-oyakata tread on his back in the morning to get the 2cm. In the past he used a device for growing longer by dangling. Now he wants to show that a small one can win, too. In school he was always involved in brawls: "Exercise is my strong point. I want to rise as fast as possible."

Kimura let his hair grow the last two years and bought a "dream stretcher" machine with New Year gift money about a year ago and also used supplements for children mixed in milk. He started sumo at primary 3rd grade, being 3rd at a wampaku sumo tournament in 4th grade, also entering a national tournament.

Another 15 year old is Tatsunami-beya's Shouta Nakata from Amami-ooshima (Kagoshima pref.), starting sumo at 5th grade in primary school. His village headman is acquainted with Tatsunami-oyakata (Asahiyutaka).

Takanohana-beya will become the first stable ever to have two pairs of twins simultaneously with the introduction of 15-year-olds Tsuyoshi 剛 and Satoshi 賢 Kamiyama 上山. They're from Sakai-machi in Ibaraki

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The heya formerly was Futagoyama (twins mountain).

Tsuyoshi, the elder, was 183 cm, 115 kg: "Cause my younger brother has a bigger physique, I win by technique"

Satoshi, 186cm, 122kg: "I don't worry about my elder brother. My rival is me myself."

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back strength measured (who?)

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Four new recruits for Hakkaku-beya as well. From left: Aoto, ?hashi (掛橋), Motokashiwa and Yamada.

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Yubinhaad, on 03 Mar 2013 - 17:29, said:

Four new recruits for Hakkaku-beya as well. From left: Aoto, ?hashi (掛橋), Motokashiwa and Yamada.

My trusty database offers Kakehashi as the reading for that.
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Yubinhaad, on 03 Mar 2013 - 17:29, said:

Four new recruits for Hakkaku-beya as well. From left: Aoto, ?hashi (掛橋), Motokashiwa and Yamada.

My trusty database offers Kakehashi as the reading for that.

that is correct most of the time, although Kakebashi is an alternative reading my neighbor has lived with for many years.

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NSK data:

SHIKONA KANJI NAME HEYA HEIGHT WEIGHT DOB BIRTHPLACE
Aoto 青砥 Yoshikazu Aoto Hakkaku 180 142 25 - June - 1997 Shimane
Asano 朝野 Ryuya Asano Michinoku 178 120 28 - June - 1991 Kagoshima
Endo 遠藤 Shota Endo Oitekaze 184 143 19 - October - 1990 Ishikawa
Fujita 藤田 Ryo Fujita Isegahama 183 92 09 - April - 1997 Aichi
Fujiwara 藤原 Ryutaro Fujiwara Michinoku 181 129 13 - June - 1997 Kagoshima
Honda 本多 Asaki Honda Tomozuna 177 121 28 - January - 1995 Aichi
Imamura 今村 Yusuke Imamura Nishikido 175 93 06 - November - 1994 Nagano
Ito 伊藤 Ryota Ito Isegahama 170 111 18 - March - 1998 Aichi
Kakehashi 掛橋 Yuta Kakehashi Hakkaku 170 114 15 - August - 1994 Hokkaido
Kamiyama I 上山 Tsuyoshi Kamiyama Takanohana 183 115 13 - May - 1997 Ibaraki
Kamiyama II 上山 Satoshi Kamiyama Takanohana 186 122 13 - May - 1997 Ibaraki
Katayama 片山 Yoshiki Katayama Dewanoumi 176 131 23 - November - 1994 Kanagawa
Katsuyama 勝山 Mitsuo Katsuyama Kokonoe 177 118 13 - April - 1994 Okinawa
Kawai 川合 Yusuke Kawai Tomozuna 171 94 05 - November - 1997 Aichi
Kimura 木村 Masaya Kimura Chiganoura 166 133 26 - September- 1997 Aichi
Koba 古場 Daichi Koba Kise 171 153 12 - March - 1991 Saga
Kojima 小島 Ken Kojima Sadogatake 177 122 25 - July - 1997 Tokyo
Kondo 近藤 Takumi Kondo Otake 170 75 18 - August - 1995 Niigata
Matsuda 松田 Takahiko Matsuda Minezaki 179 89 19 - September- 1994 Nagano
Motokashiwa 元柏 Ryota Motokashiwa Hakkaku 165 76 07 - August - 1997 Hiroshima
Nakada 中田 Shota Nakada Tatsunami 185 108 09 - January - 1998 Kagoshima
Nakamura 中村 Hiromu Nakamura Kise 173 120 29 - January - 1998 Hyogo
Nishimura 西村 Masahiro Nishimura Takasago 186 147 16 - February - 1991 Osaka
Okamoto 岡本 Kenta Okamoto Fujishima 180 105 12 - March - 1997 Fukuoka
Omae 大前 Hokuto Omae Oitekaze 170 109 17 - October - 1997 Kagawa
Sakae Toshiki Sakae Sakaigawa 175 116 19 - November - 1994 Kagoshima
Sakai 酒井 Takayuki Sakai Naruto 168 102 12 - December - 1997 Aichi
Sato 佐藤 Takashi Sato Kasugano 172 162 28 - April - 1994 Tokyo
Sekizuka 関塚 Tomohiro Sekizuka Naruto 178 90 21 - April - 1997 Aichi
Shimogama 下釜 Ibuki Shimogama Oitekaze 180 116 05 - May - 1997 Hyogo
Takane 高根 Kosei Takane Kitanoumi 182 118 17 - January - 1998 Shizuoka
Takashima 高島 Hosei Takashima Nishikido 185 147 24 - June - 1997 Tokyo
Takei 竹井 Kentaro Takei Tamanoi 180 135 07 - January - 1998 Chiba
Tanikawa 谷川 Sho Tanikawa Miyagino 181 135 23 - December - 1997 Hokkaido
Tsunekawa 常川 Ryosuke Tsunekawa Arashio 180 140 17 - October - 1994 Toyama
Ueno 上野 Daisuke Ueno Takasago 189 181 25 - May - 1993 Toyama
Yakabe 矢ケ部 Katsumasa Yakabe Chiganoura 173 156 21 - April - 1997 Osaka
Yamada 山田 Yuki Yamada Hakkaku 178 141 15 - June - 1994 Hokkaido
Yanagihara 柳原 Daisuke Yanagihara Sadogatake 175 112 28 - February - 1998 Shiga
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Okamoto being the one for Musashigawa-beya.
How will they announce Kamiyama I and II ?

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Okamoto being the one for Musashigawa-beya.

How will they announce Kamiyama I and II ?

I guess they will both get shikona straight away. Like Takatoshi and Takageppo did.

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