Topic for debate: Should the Royal Family reclaim its divine heritage?

[勝 Katsu 20]

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[IzumoTaisha 2]

No. There's no need for that anymore.

[Mukonoso 273]

No to divinity, but I would like the rules to be changed to allow a female to ascend to the top position.

[krindel 671]

Trying to revert to their claims for divinity would be an excellent way to become an instant subject of derision worldwide. Besides,

I don't think there is even an open issue on their part or any public debate in Japan on the matter whatsoever, is there?

[勝 Katsu 20]

Trying to revert to their claims for divinity would be an excellent way to become an instant subject of derision worldwide. Besides,

I don't think there is even an open issue on their part or any public debate in Japan on the matter whatsoever, is there?

No. But as a dissenting Amherikhan...and a huge fan of Jhapaneez culture, it's been an issue for me personally.

Was thinking some folks on the board had considered the same thing but hadn't said anything.

[IzumoTaisha 2]

No to divinity, but I would like the rules to be changed to allow a female to ascend to the top position.

It will definitely happen, when it needs to happen. They were all set to change the law when Hisahito was born and the matter was dropped. It's a relatively modern law in any case, only became as such in 1889. Prior to that there were examples of Empresses ruling in their own right and, perhaps equally as important, nobody cared about the Imperial household. By the time of the Meiji Restoration, many people in Japan weren't even aware there still WAS an Emperor, such had their status fallen since the 12th century.

[勝 Katsu 20]

True. I certainly wouldn't mind a single ruler/ Empress in Jhapan but I guess I'm asking the members to take the idea seriously as a matter of cultural survival. The issue for me is that Amherikha simply came in and said "you can't believe what you want to anymore" and that's something that shouldn't happen anywhere.

Edited December 2, 2012 by Otokonoyama
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[IzumoTaisha 2]

True. I certainly wouldn't mind a single ruler/ Empress in Jhapan but I guess I'm asking the members to take the idea seriously as a matter of cultural survival. The issue for me is that Amherikha simply came in and said "you can't believe what you want to anymore" and that's something that shouldn't happen anywhere.

As far as that is concerned the 1947 constitution was pretty much a re-write of the 1889 one anyway.

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

Has the forum gone from banning religious / political discussion to allowing threads on the same?

I didn't notice anything in the rules that forbids it, but these sort of discussions have been discouraged due to the tendency for things to get nasty. Forum rules are currently being examined and revised, and will hopefully be updated soon. One of those revisions is:

Strongly discouraged actions:

2. Discussion of politics and religion that have no relevance to sumo.

The forum is dedicated to our interest and love of sumo, and that shouldn't be clouded by heated and unresolvable discussions on those two heat-prone topics. Discussions that wander into religion and politics will be monitored and locked the moment discussion becomes anything less than polite and rational. All members are encouraged to let the moderators know if some topic seems precariously close to irrational discussion and flaming. Outright provocations and trolling on political and religious subjects will not be tolerated, and may end in banning.

That is what we'll do here. Keep an eye on things, and shut it if and when necessary.

Edited December 2, 2012 by Otokonoyama

[勝 Katsu 20]

Has the forum gone from banning religious / political discussion to allowing threads on the same?

I didn't notice anything in the rules that forbids it, but these sort of discussions have been discouraged due to the tendency for things to get nasty. Forum rules are currently being examined and revised, and will hopefully be updated soon. One of those revisions is:

Strongly discouraged actions:

2. Discussion of politics and religion that have no relevance to sumo.

The forum is dedicated to our interest and love of sumo, and that shouldn't be clouded by heated and unresolvable discussions on those two heat-prone topics. Discussions that wander into religion and politics will be monitored and locked the moment discussion becomes anything less than polite and rational. All members are encouraged to let the moderators know if some topic seems precariously close to irrational discussion and flaming. Outright provocations and trolling on political and religious subjects will not be tolerated, and may end in banning.

That is what we'll do here. Keep an eye on things, and shut it if and when necessary.

Thanks much, apologies if the meme seemed inflamatory...for me it just drove home the point. Strange...I really wasn't trying to be pohlitikal.....how odd that it would perceived that way.

No one was disagreeing or upset soooo...and for the love of Sumo...I feel that love of Jhapahn is not quite seperable...hence the topic;

anyway, folks, is still "Do you think the royal family should reclaim its divine status as accorded in Shinto?"

(I'm simply wondering...culturally speaking...whether or not the members feel this would be beneficial for Jhapahn)

Earlier, another member mentioned that this is a non-issue. I read an article this morning that might just

bring the question up again (damn the internet connection here...it's a lovely morning, I'm having coffee andd chatting about Jhapahn...suddenly the net Radio stops and I can't even get to yahoo....)

Anyway,,the article is at REUTERS nooz. It's on a rising Jhapahneez nashunalizm. (Hahaa...which then makes this thread slightly more pohlitikhal...sorry...)