ronnie 221 Posted February 1, 2014 Hakuho's career income (from salary, prize money and basho bonus!) matches the cost of Christiano Ronaldo's most recent haircut.Ball games aren't popular with Islam. Cricket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,010 Posted March 27, 2014 More money has been earned. Career Income from Salary, Basho Bonus and Prize Money ● Until Natsu 2014 Name Rank Income ¥ Basho Bonus ¥ Prize Money ¥ Sum ¥ Appr. $ Appr. € Hakuho 299.394.000 139.360.000 294.000.000 732.754.000 7.290.170 5.729.404 Harumafuji 236.982.000 36.610.000 82.400.000 355.992.000 3.541.764 2.783.501 Wakanosato 252.367.178 47.482.000 28.600.000 328.449.178 3.267.741 2.568.144 Kyokutenho 250.900.766 42.510.000 22.000.000 315.410.766 3.138.022 2.466.197 Kotooshu 255.550.000 33.586.000 18.600.000 307.736.000 3.061.665 2.406.188 Aminishiki 230.552.000 38.642.000 20.000.000 289.194.000 2.877.191 2.261.208 Kisenosato 198.784.000 24.842.000 18.500.000 242.126.000 2.408.912 1.893.183 Kotoshogiku 193.088.000 19.996.000 16.000.000 229.084.000 2.279.157 1.791.208 Asasekiryu 180.002.000 23.740.000 10.200.000 213.942.000 2.128.509 1.672.812 Baruto 160.126.000 18.620.000 30.800.000 209.546.000 2.084.773 1.638.440 Kakuryu 160.448.000 15.502.000 28.300.000 204.250.000 2.032.083 1.597.031 Takekaze 177.588.000 20.640.000 6.000.000 204.228.000 2.031.864 1.596.859 Toyonoshima 160.948.000 19.856.000 22.300.000 203.104.000 2.020.682 1.588.070 Tokitenku 156.654.000 17.348.000 4.600.000 178.602.000 1.776.911 1.396.489 Homasho 127.310.000 16.234.000 16.300.000 159.844.000 1.590.288 1.249.820 Goeido 124.972.000 14.008.000 19.400.000 158.380.000 1.575.723 1.238.373 Yoshikaze 133.406.000 14.262.000 6.400.000 154.068.000 1.532.823 1.204.658 Tochiozan 126.924.000 14.578.000 10.300.000 151.802.000 1.510.278 1.186.940 Toyohibiki 109.298.000 11.608.000 10.200.000 131.106.000 1.304.374 1.025.118 Tochinoshin 92.518.000 9.856.000 8.500.000 110.874.000 1.103.085 866.924 Kitataiki 97.622.000 10.590.000 2.000.000 110.212.000 1.096.499 861.748 Tamaasuka 89.432.000 10.970.000 5.000.000 105.402.000 1.048.644 824.138 Tamawashi 89.334.000 9.124.000 2.500.000 100.958.000 1.004.431 789.391 Aran 82.370.000 9.050.000 6.100.000 97.520.000 970.226 762.509 Shotenro 79.954.000 8.952.000 6.000.000 94.906.000 944.220 742.070 Wakakoyu 80.932.000 8.630.000 2.300.000 91.862.000 913.935 718.269 Kimurayama 79.184.000 7.670.000 4.000.000 90.854.000 903.906 710.387 Okinoumi 74.182.000 7.590.000 4.500.000 86.272.000 858.320 674.561 Gagamaru 66.652.000 6.948.000 6.600.000 80.200.000 797.910 627.084 Hochiyama 63.364.000 6.104.000 2.400.000 71.868.000 715.015 561.936 Myogiryu 50.094.000 5.062.000 14.500.000 69.656.000 693.008 544.640 Sagatsukasa 59.220.000 5.266.000 2.500.000 66.986.000 666.444 523.764 Tosayutaka 59.444.000 5.704.000 1.800.000 66.948.000 666.066 523.466 Kaisei 54.866.000 5.242.000 6.000.000 66.108.000 657.708 516.898 Satoyama 58.128.000 5.266.000 2.500.000 65.894.000 655.579 515.225 Shohozan 52.702.000 4.886.000 5.200.000 62.788.000 624.678 490.939 Sadanofuji 55.300.000 4.890.000 2.000.000 62.190.000 618.728 486.264 Takayasu 51.490.000 5.478.000 4.500.000 61.468.000 611.545 480.618 Daido 54.754.000 5.274.000 300.000 60.328.000 600.203 471.705 Takarafuji 51.156.000 4.766.000 300.000 56.222.000 559.353 439.600 Tochinowaka 51.156.000 4.838.000 0 55.994.000 557.084 437.817 Masunoyama 47.992.000 4.432.000 2.300.000 54.724.000 544.449 427.887 Oiwato 50.274.000 4.122.000 0 54.396.000 541.186 425.322 Fujiazuma 48.104.000 4.464.000 0 52.568.000 522.999 411.029 Aoiyama 44.182.000 4.422.000 2.800.000 51.404.000 511.418 401.928 Yoshiazuma 41.006.000 4.464.000 0 45.470.000 452.381 355.530 Chiyonokuni 39.046.000 3.672.000 2.200.000 44.918.000 446.889 351.214 Ikioi 37.086.000 3.500.000 4.000.000 44.586.000 443.586 348.618 Chiyotairyu 35.560.000 3.870.000 4.000.000 43.430.000 432.085 339.579 Tokushinho 39.368.000 3.144.000 500.000 43.012.000 427.926 336.311 Tenkaiho 39.046.000 3.480.000 300.000 42.826.000 426.076 334.856 Sotairyu 37.842.000 3.186.000 100.000 41.128.000 409.182 321.580 Kotoyuki 35.882.000 3.168.000 2.000.000 41.050.000 408.406 320.970 Kyokushuho 33.264.000 2.930.000 2.200.000 38.394.000 381.982 300.203 Takanoyama 33.810.000 3.278.000 0 37.088.000 368.989 289.991 Asahisho 33.264.000 2.958.000 500.000 36.722.000 365.347 287.129 Ryuo 33.264.000 2.950.000 0 36.214.000 360.293 283.157 Tokushoryu 31.738.000 2.758.000 400.000 34.896.000 347.180 272.852 Jokoryu 28.686.000 2.594.000 2.900.000 34.180.000 340.057 267.253 Chiyootori 28.574.000 2.534.000 2.200.000 33.308.000 331.381 260.435 Nionoumi 27.482.000 2.500.000 0 29.982.000 298.291 234.429 Towanoyama 25.176.128 2.710.000 1.000.000 28.886.128 287.388 225.861 Takanoiwa 23.884.000 2.042.000 2.300.000 28.226.000 280.820 220.699 Homarefuji 25.410.000 2.190.000 500.000 28.100.000 279.567 219.714 Akiseyama 24.864.000 2.064.000 600.000 27.528.000 273.876 215.241 Daikiho 21.266.000 1.804.000 500.000 23.570.000 234.498 184.294 Sadanoumi 20.720.000 1.702.000 800.000 23.222.000 231.036 181.573 Masuraumi 20.720.000 1.664.000 500.000 22.884.000 227.673 178.930 Shironoryu 18.648.000 1.588.000 0 20.236.000 201.328 158.225 Kitaharima 18.648.000 1.496.000 0 20.144.000 200.413 157.506 Kagamio 17.668.000 1.522.000 0 19.190.000 190.921 150.047 Azumaryu 17.668.000 1.344.000 0 19.012.000 189.150 148.655 Tanzo 16.576.000 1.324.000 1.000.000 18.900.000 188.036 147.779 Kimikaze 15.050.000 1.252.000 2.500.000 18.802.000 187.061 147.013 Endo 12.544.000 1.152.000 4.000.000 17.696.000 176.058 138.365 Osunaarashi 11.998.000 1.056.000 600.000 13.654.000 135.844 106.761 Dairaido 12.432.000 1.078.000 100.000 13.610.000 135.406 106.417 Oniarashi 10.360.000 1.020.000 500.000 11.880.000 118.194 92.890 Kotoyutaka 10.360.000 960.000 500.000 11.820.000 117.597 92.421 Terunofuji 8.834.000 758.000 2.000.000 11.592.000 115.329 90.638 Tochihiryu 10.360.000 824.000 400.000 11.584.000 115.249 90.575 Chiyomaru 8.834.000 734.000 2.000.000 11.568.000 115.090 90.450 Seiro 10.360.000 826.000 300.000 11.486.000 114.274 89.809 Arawashi 10.360.000 948.000 0 11.308.000 112.503 88.417 Chiyoo 10.360.000 826.000 0 11.186.000 111.290 87.463 Kotokuni 8.288.000 1.070.000 500.000 9.858.000 98.077 77.080 Chiyoarashi 8.288.000 642.000 300.000 9.230.000 91.829 72.169 Amuru 6.216.000 624.000 500.000 7.340.000 73.026 57.391 Yotsuguruma 6.216.000 606.000 500.000 7.322.000 72.847 57.251 Higonojo 6.216.000 482.000 400.000 7.098.000 70.618 55.499 Dewaotori 6.216.000 484.000 100.000 6.800.000 67.653 53.169 Masakaze 6.216.000 480.000 0 6.696.000 66.619 52.356 Sensho 4.144.000 436.000 800.000 5.380.000 53.526 42.066 Kaonishiki 4.144.000 436.000 100.000 4.672.000 46.482 36.530 Kotomisen 4.144.000 402.000 0 4.546.000 45.228 35.545 Hitenryu 4.144.000 360.000 0 4.504.000 44.810 35.217 Kizenryu 2.072.000 160.000 700.000 2.932.000 29.170 22.925 Toyonokuni 2.072.000 180.000 500.000 2.752.000 27.380 21.518 Keitenkai 2.072.000 160.000 500.000 2.732.000 27.181 21.362 Ryuden 2.072.000 160.000 500.000 2.732.000 27.181 21.362 Dewanosato 2.072.000 270.000 0 2.342.000 23.301 18.312 Sakigake 2.072.000 164.000 0 2.236.000 22.246 17.483 Hishofuji 2.072.000 160.000 0 2.232.000 22.206 17.452 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,010 Posted June 8, 2014 Here it goes again. Our exclusive tax authority special service: Career Income from Salary, Basho Bonus and Prize Money ● Until Nagoya 2014 Name Rank Income ¥ Basho Bonus ¥ Prize Money ¥ Sum ¥ Appr. $ Appr. € Hakuho 305.034.000 144.990.000 304.000.000 754.024.000 7.501.785 5.895.714 Harumafuji 242.622.000 38.334.000 82.400.000 363.356.000 3.615.029 2.841.081 Wakanosato 254.439.178 48.174.000 28.600.000 331.213.178 3.295.240 2.589.756 Kyokutenho 253.518.766 43.216.000 22.000.000 318.734.766 3.171.092 2.492.187 Kotooshu 255.550.000 33.586.000 18.600.000 307.736.000 3.061.665 2.406.188 Aminishiki 233.170.000 39.336.000 20.000.000 292.506.000 2.910.142 2.287.104 Kisenosato 203.478.000 25.570.000 18.500.000 247.548.000 2.462.855 1.935.578 Kotoshogiku 197.782.000 20.516.000 16.000.000 234.298.000 2.331.031 1.831.976 Asasekiryu 182.074.000 24.144.000 10.200.000 216.418.000 2.153.143 1.692.172 Kakuryu 166.088.000 16.142.000 28.300.000 210.530.000 2.094.563 1.646.134 Baruto 160.126.000 18.620.000 30.800.000 209.546.000 2.084.773 1.638.440 Takekaze 180.206.000 21.036.000 6.000.000 207.242.000 2.061.851 1.620.425 Toyonoshima 163.566.000 20.344.000 22.300.000 206.210.000 2.051.583 1.612.356 Tokitenku 159.272.000 17.674.000 4.600.000 181.546.000 1.806.201 1.419.508 Goeido 128.358.000 14.466.000 21.400.000 164.224.000 1.633.865 1.284.067 Homasho 129.928.000 16.650.000 16.300.000 162.878.000 1.620.473 1.273.543 Yoshikaze 136.792.000 14.612.000 6.400.000 157.804.000 1.569.992 1.233.869 Tochiozan 130.310.000 15.058.000 10.300.000 155.668.000 1.548.741 1.217.168 Toyohibiki 111.916.000 11.950.000 10.200.000 134.066.000 1.333.823 1.048.262 Kitataiki 100.240.000 10.910.000 2.000.000 113.150.000 1.125.729 884.720 Tochinoshin 92.518.000 9.856.000 9.000.000 111.374.000 1.108.060 870.833 Tamaasuka 91.504.000 11.318.000 5.000.000 107.822.000 1.072.721 843.060 Tamawashi 91.952.000 9.422.000 2.500.000 103.874.000 1.033.442 812.191 Aran 82.370.000 9.050.000 6.100.000 97.520.000 970.226 762.509 Shotenro 82.026.000 9.270.000 6.000.000 97.296.000 967.998 760.757 Wakakoyu 83.004.000 8.918.000 2.300.000 94.222.000 937.415 736.722 Kimurayama 79.184.000 7.670.000 4.000.000 90.854.000 903.906 710.387 Okinoumi 76.800.000 7.940.000 4.500.000 89.240.000 887.849 697.768 Gagamaru 69.270.000 7.268.000 6.600.000 83.138.000 827.140 650.056 Myogiryu 52.712.000 5.438.000 14.500.000 72.650.000 722.795 568.050 Hochiyama 63.364.000 6.104.000 2.400.000 71.868.000 715.015 561.936 Tosayutaka 61.516.000 5.908.000 1.800.000 69.224.000 688.710 541.262 Kaisei 57.484.000 5.520.000 6.000.000 69.004.000 686.521 539.542 Satoyama 60.200.000 5.486.000 2.500.000 68.186.000 678.383 533.146 Sagatsukasa 59.220.000 5.078.000 2.500.000 66.798.000 664.573 522.294 Shohozan 55.320.000 5.206.000 5.200.000 65.726.000 653.908 513.912 Sadanofuji 57.372.000 5.098.000 2.000.000 64.470.000 641.412 504.091 Takayasu 54.108.000 5.854.000 4.500.000 64.462.000 641.332 504.028 Daido 56.826.000 5.212.000 300.000 62.338.000 620.201 487.421 Takarafuji 53.774.000 5.040.000 300.000 59.114.000 588.125 462.212 Tochinowaka 53.774.000 5.098.000 0 58.872.000 585.718 460.320 Masunoyama 50.610.000 4.692.000 2.300.000 57.602.000 573.082 450.390 Fujiazuma 50.176.000 4.664.000 0 54.840.000 545.603 428.794 Oiwato 50.274.000 4.122.000 0 54.396.000 541.186 425.322 Aoiyama 46.800.000 4.730.000 2.800.000 54.330.000 540.529 424.806 Ikioi 39.704.000 3.774.000 6.000.000 49.478.000 492.257 386.868 Yoshiazuma 43.078.000 4.718.000 0 47.796.000 475.522 373.717 Chiyonokuni 41.664.000 3.912.000 2.200.000 47.776.000 475.323 373.561 Chiyotairyu 38.178.000 4.242.000 4.000.000 46.420.000 461.833 362.958 Tokushinho 41.440.000 3.322.000 500.000 45.262.000 450.312 353.904 Tenkaiho 41.118.000 3.680.000 300.000 45.098.000 448.680 352.621 Kotoyuki 37.954.000 3.380.000 2.000.000 43.334.000 431.130 338.829 Sotairyu 39.914.000 3.188.000 100.000 43.202.000 429.817 337.796 Kyokushuho 35.882.000 3.170.000 2.200.000 41.252.000 410.416 322.549 Takanoyama 35.882.000 3.496.000 0 39.378.000 391.772 307.897 Asahisho 35.336.000 3.158.000 500.000 38.994.000 387.951 304.894 Tokushoryu 34.356.000 3.012.000 400.000 37.768.000 375.754 295.308 Jokoryu 31.304.000 2.836.000 2.900.000 37.040.000 368.511 289.616 Chiyootori 31.960.000 2.790.000 2.200.000 36.950.000 367.616 288.912 Ryuo 33.264.000 2.950.000 0 36.214.000 360.293 283.157 Takanoiwa 26.502.000 2.292.000 2.300.000 31.094.000 309.354 243.124 Homarefuji 27.482.000 2.384.000 500.000 30.366.000 302.111 237.432 Nionoumi 27.482.000 2.500.000 0 29.982.000 298.291 234.429 Akiseyama 26.936.000 2.232.000 600.000 29.768.000 296.162 232.756 Towanoyama 25.176.128 2.710.000 1.000.000 28.886.128 287.388 225.861 Daikiho 23.338.000 1.984.000 500.000 25.822.000 256.903 201.902 Sadanoumi 20.720.000 1.942.000 800.000 23.462.000 233.423 183.449 Masuraumi 20.720.000 1.664.000 500.000 22.884.000 227.673 178.930 Kagamio 19.740.000 1.770.000 0 21.510.000 214.003 168.187 Azumaryu 19.740.000 1.536.000 0 21.276.000 211.675 166.357 Endo 15.162.000 1.412.000 4.000.000 20.574.000 204.691 160.868 Shironoryu 18.648.000 1.588.000 0 20.236.000 201.328 158.225 Kitaharima 18.648.000 1.496.000 0 20.144.000 200.413 157.506 Tanzo 16.576.000 1.324.000 1.000.000 18.900.000 188.036 147.779 Kimikaze 15.050.000 1.252.000 2.500.000 18.802.000 187.061 147.013 Osunaarashi 14.616.000 1.304.000 600.000 16.520.000 164.357 129.170 Terunofuji 11.452.000 1.000.000 2.000.000 14.452.000 143.783 113.000 Chiyomaru 11.452.000 976.000 2.000.000 14.428.000 143.544 112.813 Arawashi 12.978.000 1.188.000 0 14.166.000 140.938 110.764 Seiro 12.432.000 994.000 300.000 13.726.000 136.560 107.324 Dairaido 12.432.000 1.078.000 100.000 13.610.000 135.406 106.417 Chiyoo 12.432.000 1.000.000 0 13.432.000 133.635 105.025 Oniarashi 10.360.000 1.020.000 500.000 11.880.000 118.194 92.890 Tochihiryu 10.360.000 824.000 400.000 11.584.000 115.249 90.575 Amuru 8.288.000 876.000 500.000 9.664.000 96.147 75.563 Higonojo 8.288.000 644.000 400.000 9.332.000 92.844 72.967 Chiyoarashi 8.288.000 642.000 300.000 9.230.000 91.829 72.169 Dewaotori 6.216.000 484.000 100.000 6.800.000 67.653 53.169 Masakaze 6.216.000 480.000 0 6.696.000 66.619 52.356 Sensho 4.144.000 436.000 800.000 5.380.000 53.526 42.066 Kaonishiki 4.144.000 436.000 100.000 4.672.000 46.482 36.530 Kotomisen 4.144.000 402.000 0 4.546.000 45.228 35.545 Hitenryu 4.144.000 360.000 0 4.504.000 44.810 35.217 Sakigake 4.144.000 330.000 0 4.474.000 44.512 34.982 Ichinojo 2.072.000 160.000 2.000.000 4.232.000 42.104 33.090 Kizenryu 2.072.000 160.000 700.000 2.932.000 29.170 22.925 Toyonokuni 2.072.000 180.000 500.000 2.752.000 27.380 21.518 Keitenkai 2.072.000 160.000 500.000 2.732.000 27.181 21.362 Ryuden 2.072.000 160.000 500.000 2.732.000 27.181 21.362 Dewanosato 2.072.000 270.000 0 2.342.000 23.301 18.312 Hishofuji 2.072.000 160.000 0 2.232.000 22.206 17.452 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,484 Posted June 9, 2014 I see these lists and I think it's interesting and a little dismaying at how many of these professional wrestlers will have to find another job after their sports career finishes. I mean, those that can put away 1 to 2 million dollars might be able to retire, if they invest carefully and live frugally, without having to hunt for other work. But for most of them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,110 Posted June 9, 2014 * I see these lists and I think it's interesting and a little dismaying at how many of these professional wrestlers will have to find another job after their sports career finishes.Oh, the horror. ;-) In any case, most of those in the upper half of that table will have a job for life in the Kyokai if they wish. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,484 Posted June 9, 2014 Athletes and artists typically have a very short window in which to earn their career income. Most forgo a formal education in order to excel at their vocation, so when they're 'done' they have little to fall back on. I don't know whether these are before- or after-tax figures, and the fact they get cost of living paid should be a consideration. Take Takanoyama. He spent a reasonable number of tournaments in the top division. That's turned into ~30,000 a year since he started in sumo. I'll admit, I don't know how those salaries hold up relative to other jobs in Japan, but as a North American comparison, he could have earned as much as a retail employee at a department store and moderately less working full time at a fast food joint. Maybe some of these guys had no prospects when they joined sumo, so they really aren't forgoing much other income. So, take it all with a handful of salt. But if you're going to pursue a career in something, you can see why a lot of the other candidates end up falling into sumo as a last resort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,110 Posted June 9, 2014 Take Takanoyama. He spent a reasonable number of tournaments in the top division. That's turned into ~30,000 a year since he started in sumo. I'll admit, I don't know how those salaries hold up relative to other jobs in Japan, but as a North American comparison, he could have earned as much as a retail employee at a department store and moderately less working full time at a fast food joint.By that notion, why would anyone pursue any type of vocation that doesn't pay by the hour? Among those who try their hand at professional sumo and stay in for a reasonably long amount of time (let's say, 3+ years, counting anyone from Hakuho to Moriurara-types), about 7% end up getting a comfortable living out of it, as in 5+ years as sekitori. What's the rate for sports like football, baseball, golf, tennis, boxing? (Let alone people who work in acting and music.) I dare say it's much lower. There's more money in those activities, but the competition for it is also a lot more fierce. Also, as in many sports, top sumotori have the opportunity to make quite a bit of money on the side. There are no endorsements in Ozumo, of course, but I bet not much has changed since the 1980s, in that a steady sekitori with enough people skills to get along with his koenkai members never has to spend a single yen of his regular salary. That said, there's a lot more that the Kyokai can do to help its younger members achieve a decent education alongside their training, which is an area where they're still lagging behind other sports. But on the other hand the number of new recruits who have finished high school on their own is rather high these days - and I really don't think a kid who goes into Ozumo at 18 and washes out at 23 is any worse off than a kid who goes into Yakyu at 18 and washes out at 23. That's just the price to pay for pursuing a career in pro sports; some make it, many don't. Last not least, Takanoyama really isn't who I'd think of for a particularly successful Ozumo career. He's a late-bloomer who's got the equivalent of maybe 2 MLB seasons at the minimum salary - that's $1 million (pre-tax). Takanoyama's $400k don't look too bad to me compared to that. There are Takanoyama-equivalents in dozens of other sports who don't make nearly that much and who only survive as semi-pro athletes or with governmental assistance. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,010 Posted June 9, 2014 My parents have just returned from a trip to Georgia. By their accounts, Tochinoshin will return with enough wealth not only to lead a more than decent live by himself, but also with a little extra to take care of his extended family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treblemaker 254 Posted June 10, 2014 Perhaps someone with time on their hands (and no life, apparently) can average out what Hakuho has earned and given the average time spent on the dohyo over a 15-bout period, and come up with just how much the Big Guy earns per hour during a tournament. I figure 15 bouts x 8 seconds/bout x 6 annual tournaments x years of earned income divided by hour or some such calculation. And yes, this is not taking into account the time practicing, doing keiko, etc etc.... Just the bouts, ma'am, just the bouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,031 Posted June 10, 2014 That's like counting an accountant's hours by how long it takes him to fill in the data on your tax return and not counting all the research into tax law and pouring over the records of your business that went into coming up with all the figures for it. There's no way you can be in the ring without doing the work outside of it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusev 10 Posted June 10, 2014 Well i think out of the top 10 in the list, other guys will not have as much money. I am from Bulgaria, so when i look at Aoyama numbers, he can easily surpass this salary working as a bouncer in night club for example, but we still need to consider other things. I dont know if they pay for food, they dont pay for accomodation (which will be necessary if he works here in Bulgaria as he is from small town where he wont be able to make more than 300E). So if he has no expences eg clothes, food, flat, if this is the clean amount that he can put aside, its pretty good number. Also you need to consider that people who do sumo are not there for the money, they are competitors, they want success. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,010 Posted June 10, 2014 Bulgarian bouncers earn 10.000€ per month (i.e. Maegashira salary)?! Who would have thunk... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) Asashosakari said above "There are no endorsements in Ozumo." By endorsements we mean appearing in print and TV for products for money? Sure they do, not nearly as often as other celebrities but they do. Anyway, in several posts above "room and board" being paid was mentioned. It is my understanding that most wrestlers, upon evidence that they have some staying power in the sekitori ranks, tend to move out to their own place, coming in only for practice. So I guess if they stick around for chanko after practice they save some money, but other meals and certainly rent, must be paid. I mean, except for the most gregarious, who would want to live in a communal dorm their whole life if they didn't have to? And yes a lot of these guys do get married, most especially after becoming a sekitori (some even in upper makushita when things are looking good) and I doubt their wives would put up with them living in the heya. There are exceptions. I heard Musashimaru never bothered to move out of his heya. Another factor is sekitori are expected to go everywhere with their tsukebito and yes, in many cases they are paid for, but certainly not all. In these cases they are expected to pay for their tsukebito, and these are often expensive places. I have heard one of the reasons some wrestlers go into pro wrestling is they have no other viable way to support themselves after retiring, which means they didn't save up enough money. Of course, as was mentioned, many go into jobs working for the kyokai. I wouldn't doubt if many would rather do something else (a lot of them don't look like very much fun), but you gotta pay the bills. Edited June 10, 2014 by Asameshimae Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted June 10, 2014 To be honest, I have had a little trouble interpreting these numbers. So these figures are how much a rikishi has earned to date, correct? And the periods in the number are substitutes for commas? So, Hakuho has earned 754 million yen and change, correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted June 10, 2014 To be honest, I have had a little trouble interpreting these numbers. So these figures are how much a rikishi has earned to date, correct? And the periods in the number are substitutes for commas? So, Hakuho has earned 754 million yen and change, correct? When in doubt about dots/commas in numbers: If you find at least two dots or commas in a seven-digit or even bigger number, then you should wonder why you are still wondering ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) Well, I guessed that, but I worried that the last zeroes might possibly superfluous zeroes that got left over in the process. I am always the one in the room who is never afraid to ask the stupid question just in case. My friends call it one of my charm points. (In jonokuchi...) Edited June 10, 2014 by Asameshimae 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,110 Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) Asashosakari said above "There are no endorsements in Ozumo." By endorsements we mean appearing in print and TV for products for money? Sure they do, not nearly as often as other celebrities but they do.I was thinking more in terms of equipment sponsorship, which is the financial backbone for many rank-and-file athletes in other individual sports. Major endorsements for products unrelated to sport tend to be limited to superstars. Anyway, in several posts above "room and board" being paid was mentioned. It is my understanding that most wrestlers, upon evidence that they have some staying power in the sekitori ranks, tend to move out to their own place, coming in only for practice. So I guess if they stick around for chanko after practice they save some money, but other meals and certainly rent, must be paid. I mean, except for the most gregarious, who would want to live in a communal dorm their whole life if they didn't have to?Sekitori do get a personal room. As far as I know it's partially a question of individual heya culture - technically any sekitori is free to move out of the heya even if he's unmarried, but in some stables it's more frowned upon than in others. Edited June 10, 2014 by Asashosakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted June 10, 2014 Yeah, I was going to mention sekitori get their own room (they're big boys now!). Hard to imagine (or maybe funny to imagine) Musashimaru (in the past) tucked in his futon with young wrestlers snoring on the tatami next to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,031 Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) And the periods in the number are substitutes for commas? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousands_separator (actually goes to decimal mark, but whatever) Different countries have different rules about how to separate digits in large numbers. It is especially annoying when trying to copy tables of such numbers into Excel because I've not found out a way to tell Excel that it should treat commas and periods in the data differently than normal. edit: I've now read that French Canadians follow the French style and English Canadians follow the English style, so one might say that if you're writing numbers accompanying English text, you should follow the English style for writing numbers. But I'm sure most people will just say the way they originally learned is clearly the correct way. Edited June 11, 2014 by Gurowake 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,010 Posted June 11, 2014 I would have never suspected that the number format might be considered cumbersome. (But then again, I had never given it any thought whatsoever...) It is certainly true that English texts should be accompanied by English style numbers and I seem to remember that I tried to do so at other places in the past. Nevertheless, because I'm used to my own language's style, the flood of commas in the English format makes my eyes bleed. So I'm undecided. More importantly, if it is not clear what these tables are about, it might be a good idea to refer to the very first post of this thread. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted June 11, 2014 I have seen the system of using periods where my language/country would use commas. I was just confirming. Go on as you have done it. No worries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,110 Posted June 11, 2014 Different countries have different rules about how to separate digits in large numbers. It is especially annoying when trying to copy tables of such numbers into Excel because I've not found out a way to tell Excel that it should treat commas and periods in the data differently than normal.Somewhere in Excel's settings ("International" or whatever it's called in current versions) you can switch the delimiters/separators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,031 Posted June 11, 2014 Thank you! I switched the delimiters in the options, pasted in a bit of the table, and the data was read as being numbers correctly; I just had to switch back to make it display "proper" for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Afrozuna 8 Posted June 15, 2014 Also has to do with the strength of ones home currency and the cost of living. In my country (South Africa) many of the rikishis with more than $300000 would be able to live reasonably well if their mortgages etc are already paid up. A 3 bedroom house in a decent surburb costs around $60 000. That is precisely why some Britons/Americans go to Asian countries (particularly Thailand) to retire because the cost of living is usually much lower than in London/New York and the strength of the British pound renders them wealthy in the currencies of their chosen retirement country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mihasan 13 Posted June 18, 2015 To bad this tread went cold..., does anyone have any new data about the rikishi carrier earnings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites