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The results for yokozuna and ozeki in 6 basho time:

I didn't get it... can you (someone else) explain your table?

I have read it as (the count of yusho as ozeki / the count of yusho as yokozuna) and + means active rikishi.

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Harumafuji is not only fighting for Yokozuna promotion but also for the longest Ozeki winning streak and for the top ten of all winning streaks and for the rare double zensho all of which used to be strictly Dai-Yokozuna territory. So this talk of mediocre Yokozuna (if at all) is a bit off. Normally, the promotion of a mediocre Yokozuna had to be helped by the Kyuju of the other Yokozuna(s), did not happen this time.

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Normally, the promotion of a mediocre Yokozuna had to be helped by the Kyuju of the other Yokozuna(s), did not happen this time.

He did it with three Ozeki missing, all of which he would have had to face. Still, almost every Yokozuna promotion happens when key top figures are out.

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Sorry to bring up yesterday's news but upon review of the slow motion replay, it is intuitively obvious that Henka-ho COCKED his arm arm and threw the elbow ON PURPOSE.

Watch from 5:18:

This isn't Ali vs. Frasier. This isn't the UFC.

The Yokozuna has become the bad guy.

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Harumafuji is not only fighting for Yokozuna promotion but also for the longest Ozeki winning streak and for the top ten of all winning streaks and for the rare double zensho all of which used to be strictly Dai-Yokozuna territory. So this talk of mediocre Yokozuna (if at all) is a bit off. Normally, the promotion of a mediocre Yokozuna had to be helped by the Kyuju of the other Yokozuna(s), did not happen this time.

I don't think anyone is denying that Harumafuji is putting on a stellar performance. The question for me is if he'll manage to continue on the same level? I guess we'll only see that next basho. He shouldn't be denied yokozunahood based on if's though.

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The results for yokozuna and ozeki in 6 basho time:

I didn't get it... can you (someone else) explain your table?

I have read it as (the count of yusho as ozeki / the count of yusho as yokozuna) and + means active rikishi.

The first is actually the count of all makuuchi yusho as not yokozuna - including yusho as ozeki, but also yusho as sanyaku or maegashira.

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I don't think anyone is denying that Harumafuji is putting on a stellar performance. The question for me is if he'll manage to continue on the same level? I guess we'll only see that next basho. He shouldn't be denied yokozunahood based on if's though.
Based on his Makuuchi win ratio of currently 61.5% I'd expect a rather short yokozuna career of less than two years. (http://www.sumoinfo.de/Trivia/Die_meisten_Siege_in_Makuuchi/die_meisten_siege_in_makuuchi.html , maybe someone can come up with a list more suitable)

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The Harumafuji question was aptly addressed by Tamanoi Oyakata, IIRC. "As long as he's healthy, he'll be OK. The problems will begin if he gets injured-because of his relative light weight, he will not be able to rely on his sheer weight to cover for an injury as many heavier rikishi do. Without his speed and technique, it's going to be hard".

Edited by Kintamayama

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Still, almost every Yokozuna promotion happens when key top figures are out.

Hakuho being one of the exceptions! (But not Asashoryu and Takanohana)

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Day 14. An amazing recovery by Jd83 Oshio in his match against Jd88 Hasegawa. I am waiting to see what kimarite they give this one . It sounded like they called it an Izori.

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Day 14. An amazing recovery by Jd83 Oshio in his match against Jd88 Hasegawa. I am waiting to see what kimarite they give this one . It sounded like they called it an Izori.

Good stuff!

Folks on twitter also saying it was an izori.

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Day 14. An amazing recovery by Jd83 Oshio in his match against Jd88 Hasegawa. I am waiting to see what kimarite they give this one . It sounded like they called it an Izori.

What a cool way to clinch kachikoshi!

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Still, almost every Yokozuna promotion happens when key top figures are out.

Hakuho being one of the exceptions! (But not Asashoryu and Takanohana)

Well, you could make an argument that Hakuho's ride was just as easy as Harumafuji's. Granted, there were three other Ozeki instead of two today, but Asashoryu went on self-destruct at the end of the basho.

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Firstly, this is my first post so hello to everyone.

I just tuned in to today's match in time to see Jokoryu win his bout. Looks like an interesting day of matches atop the juryo standings, with rikishi in each of the final 4 bouts (beginning with Jokoryu) all vying for the championship, each coming in at 9-4. Great stuff.

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There are 9 makuuchi rikishi going into senshuraku with a 7-7 record, and only 2 of them are matched together.

Edited by Asojima

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The mongolian Yokozuna Backscratcher Club work as indeed... no resistence from Kakuyru today

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WHAT DID I TELL YOU. WHAT. DID. I TELL YOU. AUGUST 13 YO!

You did fine... here your cookie: (Yusho winner...)

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Whoa, Hakuho just performed the mother of all slap downs - looked like Kise would crush right through the clay surface surface and take a sip of the sacred sake that is kept inside the dohyo.... again a display of high intensity by the yokozuna

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That is the third day in a row in which Hakuho throws that violent upper arm strike on the tachi-ai. He uses his left arm to touch the opponent so as to get balance and direct himself better, then smashes right in there with that right arm. Smells like bullshit to me.

Anyway tomorrow we have the H-bomb versus Hakuho as pissed as I've ever seen him be. This will be good!

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Henka-ho tried knocking out Kisenosato with that same elbow nonsense. Just like a wounded animal.

Looks like its time for the ill-mannered Yokozuna to retire in shame. Hakuho clearly is a reprobate, through and through.

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Henka-ho tried knocking out Kisenosato with that same elbow nonsense. Just like a wounded animal.

Looks like its time for the ill-mannered Yokozuna to retire in shame. Hakuho clearly is a reprobate, through and through.

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What 'story'? I told no 'story', 'bro'.

The hate ends with you.

Peace out.

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