Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted May 14, 2004 Hokutoriki continues his series of really impressive and powerful wins he displayed this basho and ended the rensho streak of Asashoryu at 35 wins. He seems to finally break through his pattern of getting big kachi-koshi below the joi-jin and big make-koshi in the joi-in. He has now swept all four Yokozuna and Ozeki and did also beat 5-1 Tamanoshima, so he has to be considered as a serious yusho contender now. It will be interesting to see how his oshi-style fares against big Kotonowaka tomorrow. Kinkaiyama is the only other rikishi at 6-0 with a win against listless Toki. Futeno missed it losing to Hakuho, while Tokitsuumi lost against Kokkai. Wakanosato won against Miyabiyama and is also in the big group of 5-1 rikishi. Toyonoshima, Tokitenku and Otsukasa all won, and extended their lead in the Juryo division as only Takanotsuru was able to stay one win behind. -- Doitsuyama Day 6 Juryo J13w Toyonoshima (6-0) yorikiri J12e Dewanofuji (2-4) J12w Hagiwara (4-2) oshidashi J14w Wakakosho (3-3) J11e Hamanishiki (4-2) hikiotoshi J14e Tochifudo (0-6) J10w Tokitenku (6-0) uchigake J13e Daishodai (1-5) J10e Kotooshu (4-2) hatakikomi J7w Gojoro (1-5) J6e Takanotsuru (5-1) uwatehineri J9w Sumanofuji (1-5) J7e Ama (3-3) oshidashi J5e Chiyotenzan (4-2) J9e Bushuyama (3-3) hatakikomi J5w Kitazakura (2-4) J8w Wakanoyama (4-2) hatakikomi J4e Kaido (1-5) J3w Wakatoba (4-2) oshidashi J6w Roho (4-2) J2e Kasugao (4-2) kotenage J4w Oikari (1-5) J2w Otsukasa (6-0) tsukiotoshi J1e Tamakasuga (0-6) J3e Yotsukasa (3-3) tsukiotoshi J1w Toyozakura (1-5) Makuuchi M16e Hakuho (4-2) yorikiri M15w Futeno (5-1) M12w Jumonji (3-3) oshidashi M16w Takanowaka (2-4) M11w Hayateumi (3-3) oshitaoshi M17e Kobo (2-4) M13w Kinkaiyama (6-0) yorikiri M10w Toki (1-5) M12e Kaiho (4-2) okuridashi M9e Kotoryu (3-3) M9w Tosanoumi (4-2) oshidashi M14w Asanowaka (1-5) M8e Takekaze (3-3) oshidashi M11e Aminishiki (2-4) M10e Harunoyama (3-3) yorikiri M6w Iwakiyama (4-2) M5w Tamanoshima (5-1) hatakikomi M8w Tochisakae (3-3) M7e Kokkai (5-1) oshidashi M4e Tokitsuumi (5-1) M7w Kyokushuzan (2-4) uwatenage M3e Shimotori (3-3) M5e Kotonowaka (3-3) yorikiri M2e Asasekiryu (1-5) M1e Tochinonada (2-4) oshitaoshi M6e Buyuzan (1-5) S1e Wakanosato (5-1) oshitaoshi K1e Miyabiyama (1-5) K1w Kotomitsuki (3-3) shitatedashinage S1w Kyokutenho (1-5) O1w Kaio (4-2) yorikiri M3w Dejima (1-5) M2w Kakizoe (3-3) yorikiri O1e Chiyotaikai (3-3) O2e Musoyama (3-3) oshidashi M4w Takamisakari (2-4) M1w Hokutoriki (6-0) oshitaoshi Y1e Asashoryu (5-1) Day 7 Makushita Ms8e Chiyohakuho (2-1) Ms6w Katayama (2-1) Ms3e Kotonomine (1-2) Ms3w Daimanazuru (1-2) Ms2e Juzan (3-0) Ms9w Fujinoyama (3-0) Ms5w Kotoshogiku (2-1) Ms1w Maikaze (2-1) Ms1e Kotokasuga (2-1) Ms4w Ichinotani (2-1) Juryo J13e Daishodai (1-5) J12w Hagiwara (4-2) J12e Dewanofuji (2-4) J14e Tochifudo (0-6) J11e Hamanishiki (4-2) J14w Wakakosho (3-3) J10w Tokitenku (6-0) J6w Roho (4-2) J6e Takanotsuru (5-1) J13w Toyonoshima (6-0) J10e Kotooshu (4-2) J5w Kitazakura (2-4) J5e Chiyotenzan (4-2) J9e Bushuyama (3-3) J4e Kaido (1-5) J9w Sumanofuji (1-5) J8w Wakanoyama (4-2) J3w Wakatoba (4-2) J3e Yotsukasa (3-3) J7e Ama (3-3) J4w Oikari (1-5) J1w Toyozakura (1-5) J1e Tamakasuga (0-6) J7w Gojoro (1-5) Makuuchi M17e Kobo (2-4) J2e Kasugao (4-2) J2w Otsukasa (6-0) M16w Takanowaka (2-4) M13w Kinkaiyama (6-0) M12w Jumonji (3-3) M11e Aminishiki (2-4) M16e Hakuho (4-2) M10e Harunoyama (3-3) M15w Futeno (5-1) M9e Kotoryu (3-3) M14w Asanowaka (1-5) M12e Kaiho (4-2) M8w Tochisakae (3-3) M7e Kokkai (5-1) M9w Tosanoumi (4-2) M10w Toki (1-5) M6w Iwakiyama (4-2) M6e Buyuzan (1-5) M11w Hayateumi (3-3) M8e Takekaze (3-3) M5w Tamanoshima (5-1) M7w Kyokushuzan (2-4) M3w Dejima (1-5) M5e Kotonowaka (3-3) M1w Hokutoriki (6-0) M1e Tochinonada (2-4) M2w Kakizoe (3-3) K1e Miyabiyama (1-5) K1w Kotomitsuki (3-3) S1e Wakanosato (5-1) M2e Asasekiryu (1-5) O2e Musoyama (3-3) S1w Kyokutenho (1-5) M4e Tokitsuumi (5-1) O1w Kaio (4-2) O1e Chiyotaikai (3-3) M3e Shimotori (3-3) Y1e Asashoryu (5-1) M4w Takamisakari (2-4) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calchan 0 Posted May 14, 2004 Sumo recording of the sixth day is here: <a href="ed2k://|file|sumo20040514.asf|118755937|B8C1F99EDC1516DE82AEE4FC9F90EEF7|/">sumo20040514.asf</a> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted May 14, 2004 Kinkaiyama is the only other rikishi at 6-0 with a win against listless Toki. Futeno missed it losing to Hakuho, All four of these rikishi are having noteworthy basho. Toki's second awful basho in a row: something is seriously wrong there. Kinky is finally doing well in makuuchi after a long elevator streak. Hakuho and Futeno are both here to stay, and I think their rivalry amongst themselves will be exciting. But today's boy's is Hoku, no doubt B-) When is the last time a (sekiwake or lower) rikishi defeated all yokozuna and ozeki in a basho? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted May 14, 2004 (edited) When is the last time a (sekiwake or lower) rikishi defeated all yokozuna and ozeki in a basho? Hmm, I checked the last few basho, and found Takamisakari, Asashoryu and Tosanoumi coming close, only losing to one. M4 Kaiho in Aki 2001 won all three of his bouts against Yokozuna Musashimaru and Ozeki Musoyama and Miyabiyama, and didn't fight the other two Ozeki Kaio and Chiyotaikai because they went kyujo before it was their turn to get Kaiho. Does this count? If indeed all Yokozuna and Ozeki must be faced who are active on shonichi (remember, Hokutoriki didn't beat Tochiazuma...) then Sekiwake Dejima in Nagoya 1999 is the answer. He won against Yokozuna Akebono and Takanohana and against Ozeki Takanonami and Chiyotaikai. Yokozuna Wakanohana was kyujo the whole basho and Yokozuna Musashimaru is in the same stable as Dejima. Edited May 14, 2004 by Doitsuyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 300 Posted May 14, 2004 Hokutoriki continues his series of really impressive and powerful wins he displayed this basho and ended the rensho streak of Asashoryu at 35 wins. He seems to finally break through his pattern of getting big kachi-koshi below the joi-jin and big make-koshi in the joi-in. He has now swept all four Yokozuna and Ozeki and did also beat 5-1 Tamanoshima, so he has to be considered as a serious yusho contender now. It will be interesting to see how his oshi-style fares against big Kotonowaka tomorrow. By the way, I must say that I very much appreciate the comments which accompany your daily "Results and pairings" reports, Doitsuyama. No nonsense - crisp and to the point. B-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,959 Posted May 14, 2004 If indeed all Yokozuna and Ozeki must be faced who are active on shonichi (remember, Hokutoriki didn't beat Tochiazuma...) then Sekiwake Dejima in Nagoya 1999 is the answer. Who, incidentally, won the yusho and all three sansho there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted May 14, 2004 Good data, thank you B-) ("Does this count?" -- sure, I wasn't looking for a very precise question/answer, just general knowledge in this area). Out of curiosity, has there been a case where a sekiwake or lower rikishi faced and defeated all the ozeki and yokozuna on the banzuke? If no same-heya exemptions, and none of the ozeki/yokozuna were kyujo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted May 14, 2004 I have made the bout movies for Juryo and Makuuchi today, because Dale seems to have satellite/receiver problems. Find them as usual at http://www.banzuke.com/~juryoika/. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokimori 0 Posted May 14, 2004 Look at Asa's glare at the end of their bout! Hokutoriki will have a hard time next time they clash, mark my words... And thx, Doitsuyama! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Higashimori 0 Posted May 14, 2004 By the way, I must say that I very much appreciate the comments which accompany your daily "Results and pairings" reports, Doitsuyama. No nonsense - crisp and to the point. B-) Just wanted to second that. When I was on the SML only, your's was the post I always looked forward the most, even though I had watched most of the previous day's action (well, Makuuchi anyway). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 300 Posted May 14, 2004 Look at Asa's glare at the end of their bout! Hokutoriki will have a hard time next time they clash, mark my words... I get the impression that Asashoryu is a bad loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokimori 0 Posted May 14, 2004 Me too. That is why he almost never loses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted May 14, 2004 Exactly. If I was Hokutoriki, I'd be scared stiff of meeting Asa in Nagoya - he will rip him apart if at all humanly possible. (Foot in mouth...) And yes, as Kai-zeki says - pity poor Sakke who is unfortunate enough to face riled up Shoryu tomorrow. B-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted May 14, 2004 Hokutoriki may be advised to watch his back before next basho as well. Asa might just seek him out for a keiko session. (Foot in mouth...) (Foot in mouth...) (Of course I have no idea if they're even in the same ichimon, but that might not stop Shoryu). B-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 206 Posted May 14, 2004 I join the frontier in appreciating Doitsuyama's daily results post with comments. It always was the best way to sum up a day and turn eyes to next day. If Doitsuyama would suddenly stop those reports, vacuum would appear. Me too. That is why he almost never loses Eggsallad! (Applauding...) Sums up essentials well! Shoryu is clearly a prime example of a rikishi who hates losing more than anything. Naturally it is easy to assume that noone wants to lose but in some rikishi's case the will to win is overwhelming and visible. Hagiwara has all those features too. Simply hates to lose and analyzes every loss carefully. Kotooshu is another one who detests losing. With such determined attitude day after day, these guys stay in top shape and tuned up sumo becomes a regular event for them whereas rikishi who get heated up only occasionally and on other days do more or less office clerk sumo, they don't have automatic tuning up process for every bout. Very important feature to have that in order to have good stability. Winning streak often triggers that though and then every day is like the decisive bout and loss is the biggest boogie-man on earth. See Asasekiryu in Haru for example. He went above all limits and simply refused to lose his bouts. Hokutoriki must feel the same way now and sees himself only as winner against anyone. Tomorrow's musubi-no-ichiban will have many interesting details: 1. Will Sakke shiver from horror? 2. Will Shoryu do excessive thigh slap maneuvres when going to get salt for the last time? 3. Will Shoryu try to go for all out tsuki or will he go for the belt? 4. If Sakke wins, it will be the most bizarre situation as Kokugikan erupts completely, Shoryu suffers an immense shock as losing to Sakke would be disaster to him at this point, fan-man may injure himself and Sakke cries from confusion and joy utterly yatta yatta yatta 5. If Shoryu wins, it will be interesting to see if he gives Sakke extra punishment after beating him. Or maybe calms down in a second and in composed manner offers a helping hand. 6. Will kensho amount be astronomical? 7. Will Sakke get a grip? He is amazingly good against Shoryu IF he gets a grip Other bouts to pay special attention to: Kotoshogiku vs Maikaze in makushita. Both knock juryo gates and Kotoshogiku needs this one to be in good position on second week. Kotonowaka bs Hokutoriki Kotonowaka is 3-0 against Hoku and has taken his best shots before too meaning that Hokutoriki has been able to push with all his might before without success. Very interesting to see this bout. Kotomitsuki vs Miyabiyama Interesting from Koto's point of view. He is doing very strong sumo despite 3-3 record. Lot of good old pre-elbow crisis Koto present. Will he continue his awesome yotsu sharpness? Kokkai vs Tosanoumi Will Kokkai be able to stop Tosanoumi's charge and get his forward leaning oshi going? Kotooshu vs Kitazakura Kitazakura has hundreds of bouts of experience against Roho. How will he do against Kotooshu's sumo? Kitazakura is strong and very tall. Kotooshu hasn't met Kitazakura-caliber rikishi before in honbasho when it comes to reach I think. And many other good bouts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 300 Posted May 14, 2004 I am obviously a minority here, but I don't think being a bad loser is a good thing. You don't have to be John McEnroe in order to win - you can be Bj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted May 14, 2004 I am obviously a minority here, but I don't think being a bad loser is a good thing. You don't have to be John McEnroe in order to win - you can be Bj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coo-cook 0 Posted May 14, 2004 I think Shoryu is a different man now. He will give a fatherly kiss to Sakari tomorrow. You will see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takanobaka 0 Posted May 14, 2004 I think Shoryu is a different man now.He will give a fatherly kiss to Sakari tomorrow. You will see. (Applauding...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sekihiryu 51 Posted May 15, 2004 Exactly. If I was Hokutoriki, I'd be scared stiff of meeting Asa in Nagoya - he will rip him apart if at all humanly possible. (Applauding...) why wait for Nagoya? there is a chance that the could play eachother again in a Yusho playoff if all the stars align on Day 15, I would love to see that (Sign of approval) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoshidango 0 Posted May 15, 2004 (edited) the concept of bad loser and not wanting to lose are somewhat mixed up here. Just one example. I don't know if he does not bow at the end normally. But this time did not - just glared. I saw this few times. I am sure there are many wrestlers who don't want to lose(!). Isn't it supposed to disrespecful? But I rarely recall, actually I cannot recall now anyone takes that kind of attitude. That should be something Uchidate to jump up on shouldn't it? Edited May 15, 2004 by hoshidango Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted May 15, 2004 the concept of bad loser and not wanting to lose are somewhat mixed up here. Just one example. I don't know if he does not bow at the end normally. But this time did not - just glared. I saw this few times. I am sure there are many wrestlers who don't want to lose(!). Isn't it supposed to disrespecful? But I rarely recall, actually I cannot recall now anyone takes that kind of attitude. That should be something Uchidate to jump up on shouldn't it? Takanohana used to be the same way. When he lost he sometimes wouldn't bow to his opponent either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoshidango 0 Posted May 15, 2004 the concept of bad loser and not wanting to lose are somewhat mixed up here. Just one example. I don't know if he does not bow at the end normally. But this time did not - just glared. I saw this few times. I am sure there are many wrestlers who don't want to lose(!). Isn't it supposed to disrespecful? But I rarely recall, actually I cannot recall now anyone takes that kind of attitude. That should be something Uchidate to jump up on shouldn't it? Takanohana used to be the same way. When he lost he sometimes wouldn't bow to his opponent either. Really, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
