Bench Euro 2012

[Jejima 1,498]

Okay, one last post, for those players who don't know how the competition will pan out, in order to help you select your penalty takers for the quarter-finals...

Look in a post somewhere earlier to see the groups. The quarter-finals will be as follows. Predict the winners of these matches for your penalty takers for the quarter-finals :-).

Euro 2012 Quarter Finals

1st Group A v 2nd Group B

1st Group B v 2nd Group A

1st Group C v 2nd Group D

1st Group D v 2nd Group C

Edited June 3, 2012 by Jejima

[Jejima 1,498]

Nearly forgot, so one last post from me....

Please send your entries for each round to your group's gyoji (and your group's executive gyoji, if you want to double-safe your entry) in this format:-

(Remember to indicate your ® and © teams in the line-up, to make it easier for the gyoji.)

(NB: This is for demonstration only, I have not decided my actual round 1 line-up ;-))

In subject title: Jejima's line-up for round 1

Jejima: 1. Denmark, 2. Sweden ©, 3. England ®, 4. Spain, 5. Japan, 6. Swaziland, 7. Hong Kong

Comment: Please add a comment! It makes the game more fun. (I nearly made a rule that players not making a comment would get a yellow card, but realised (in time) that would be a bit too much.... But the sentiment remains ;-))

Edited June 3, 2012 by Jejima

[Kameumi 1]

Group B - I will be your gyoji!

You can send your lineups to my e-mail: Reawer51@hotmail.com or in a pm here on the forum.

My deadline will be 1 hour before the start of the first game of each round.

That makes the deadlines to send an accepted entry look as follows:

Round 1: Friday 8th June, 16:00 (BST (British SummerTime))

Round 2: Tuesday 12th June, 16:00 (BST (British SummerTime))

Round 3: Saturday 16th June, 18:45 (BST (British SummerTime))

PS. I would prefer the lineups to be sent after the following standard(Altho I will ofcourse accept any correct entry, no matter the style):

1. Nation

2. Nation

3. ® Nation

4. Nation

5. © Nation

6, Nation

7. Nation

<Witty, sharp and slightly aggressive comment>

Thank you!

PS. Wonderfull job with the rulepresentation Jejima. The simple tables are brilliant.

Edited June 3, 2012 by Kameumi

[Jejima 1,498]

PS. Wonderfull job with the rulepresentation Jejima. The simple tables are brilliant.

(On cloud nine...) (Possibly the first time this smiley has been used on this forum?)

[Asashosakari 20,289]

The Fighting Spirit Prize

This will be looked after by Asashosakari, and is roughly based on the

MCP for Bench Sumo. Asashosakari will tell us more :-)

I've found my World Cup spreadsheet, so I'll give it a try to revive that. Good thing I don't actually remember how much time I spent on that spreadsheet two years ago, because I nearly fainted when I looked at it again the other day (and basically didn't understand my own work)...

On the upside, having the spreadsheet means we have an exact implementation of the final World Cup rules available, so I'll double-check your tables later today or tomorrow.

Just in case you have been skimming through the posts with the rules....

You need to send me your list of penalty takers for the quarter-final matches (see the post above for details) before Thursday, 7th June,19:00 (local time), Saturday, 9th June, 01:00 (JST).

Friday? :-)

[Jejima 1,498]

The Fighting Spirit Prize

This will be looked after by Asashosakari, and is roughly based on the

MCP for Bench Sumo. Asashosakari will tell us more :-)

I've found my World Cup spreadsheet, so I'll give it a try to revive that. Good thing I don't actually remember how much time I spent on that spreadsheet two years ago, because I nearly fainted when I looked at it again the other day (and basically didn't understand my own work)...

On the upside, having the spreadsheet means we have an exact implementation of the final World Cup rules available, so I'll double-check your tables later today or tomorrow.

Just in case you have been skimming through the posts with the rules....

You need to send me your list of penalty takers for the quarter-final matches (see the post above for details) before Thursday, 7th June,19:00 (local time), Friday, 9th 8th June, 01:00 (JST).

Friday? :-)

Thursday! :-)

Edited June 3, 2012 by Jejima

[Jejima 1,498]

The Fighting Spirit Prize

This will be looked after by Asashosakari, and is roughly based on the

MCP for Bench Sumo. Asashosakari will tell us more :-)

I've found my World Cup spreadsheet, so I'll give it a try to revive that. Good thing I don't actually remember how much time I spent on that spreadsheet two years ago, because I nearly fainted when I looked at it again the other day (and basically didn't understand my own work)...

On the upside, having the spreadsheet means we have an exact implementation of the final World Cup rules available, so I'll double-check your tables later today or tomorrow.

Just in case you have been skimming through the posts with the rules....

You need to send me your list of penalty takers for the quarter-final matches (see the post above for details) before Thursday, 7th June,19:00 (local time), Saturday Friday, 9th 8th June, 01:00 (JST).

Friday? :-)

Thursday! :-)

Oops... I see my mistake (thanks for checking)... Now corrected in previous posts! :-)

Edited June 3, 2012 by Jejima

[Kintamayama 47,352]

Friday? :-)

Thursday! :-)

Oops... I see my mistake (thanks for checking)... Now corrected in previous posts! :-)

Friday the 8th.

[ronnie 221]

Poor old England. Three men down before a ball is kicked, and still taking a guy who can't play in the first two matches.

Her Majesty will not be amused!

[Asashosakari 20,289]

I've found my World Cup spreadsheet, so I'll give it a try to revive that. Good thing I don't actually remember how much time I spent on that spreadsheet two years ago, because I nearly fainted when I looked at it again the other day (and basically didn't understand my own work)...

On the upside, having the spreadsheet means we have an exact implementation of the final World Cup rules available, so I'll double-check your tables later today or tomorrow.

Just remembered that this MCP-like idea was predicated on all players being active in all rounds, so using it as an award in its own right probably doesn't make any sense now. At least the scores won't be very interesting with just the three round-robin matches as the basis.

[Achiyama 1,272]

Group "D" gyoji here.

Hello Rannohana, Mischashimaru, Andonishiki and Jejima,

I tried to send you a PM yesterday, but it turned out that the PM system didn't recognize Rannohana. I turned for help to Jejima and he send an e-mail to him. I haven't receved answer from him yet but I want to post the deadlines for your line-ups to be submitted. Here they are:

Round 1: Friday 8th June, 14:00 (Central European Summertime - Berlin, Paris, Rome, Warsaw etc.) - 4 hours before kick-off.

Round 2: Tuesday 12th June, 14:00 (Central European Summertime - Berlin, Paris, Rome, Warsaw etc) - 4 hours before kick-off.

Round 3: Saturday 16th June, 16:45 (Central European Summertime - Berlin, Paris, Rome, Warsaw etc) - 4 hours before kick-off.

Mischashimaru,

You have already sent me your line-up, but you used the Bench Sumo format (with seats and points for the seats) which is not the case with Bench Euro 2012. SO, if you want to change your line-up after reading the rules, sent by Jejima, you are welcome to do that.

This is the first post from me. If you prefer to use e-mail, instead of PM, feel free to do that. My e-mail is angelstoyanov55@yahoo.com

I'd greatly appreciate, if you confirm that you have read this post -either here on the thread, or PM, or e-mail.

Good luck with you line-ups. Achiyama

[Asashosakari 20,289]

Goal-scoring rules confirmed as identical to those ultimately used in the World Cup.

(The rows 6 and 9 for Situation 5 have the wrong smilies, though.)

[Jejima 1,498]

(The rows 6 and 9 for Situation 5 have the wrong smilies, though.)

Thanks for checking. Now corrected.

[Jejima 1,498]

I've found my World Cup spreadsheet, so I'll give it a try to revive that. Good thing I don't actually remember how much time I spent on that spreadsheet two years ago, because I nearly fainted when I looked at it again the other day (and basically didn't understand my own work)...

On the upside, having the spreadsheet means we have an exact implementation of the final World Cup rules available, so I'll double-check your tables later today or tomorrow.

Just remembered that this MCP-like idea was predicated on all players being active in all rounds, so using it as an award in its own right probably doesn't make any sense now. At least the scores won't be very interesting with just the three round-robin matches as the basis.

Well, we could have a 'Plate' competition (etc), as we did before - but I recall from the World Cup that some players started droning once they were out of the 'Cup'. competition....

If there is sufficient interest, there is no problem about running it....

Basically, it means, that you never get knocked out of the game, and for the final match everyone is still playing - might just be for 15th place ;-)

What do players think? If you were to come 3rd or 4th in your group, would you like to sit out the remainder of the tournament, or continue to play in the 'Plate' competition?

[Kintamayama 47,352]

Sit out.

[Jakusotsu 6,402]

Sit out.

Seconded.

[Andonishiki 171]

all posts read, thanks Honorable Gyoji.

I'm not 100% on top of broken chain rules, will listen to Alice in Chains now and start a gyoji practise workshop.

join me, if you like.... or laugh about my effort, if you're fit enough.

Let's imagine the following results for round 1:

Pol vs Gre 2:0

Rus vs Cz 1:1

Ger vs Por 1:1

Ned vs Dan 3:0

Ita vs Esp 1:1

Ire vs Cro 1:1

Fra vs Eng 0:0

Ukr vs Swe 2:2

now we imagine two line-ups

Player X: Ger, Fra, Pol, Ned, Rus, Cro, Ire

Player Y: Spa, Ger, Pol, Ned, Ukr, Ita, Dan

so, are you able to work out the result ?

does it matter, which teams are R and C ?

[Doitsuyama 1,261]

does it matter, which teams are R and C ?

Yes, there are even tables for this...

[Jejima 1,498]

all posts read, thanks Honorable Gyoji.

I'm not 100% on top of broken chain rules, will listen to Alice in Chains now and start a gyoji practise workshop.

join me, if you like.... or laugh about my effort, if you're fit enough.

Let's imagine the following results for round 1:

Pol vs Gre 2:0

Rus vs Cz 1:1

Ger vs Por 1:1

Ned vs Dan 3:0

Ita vs Esp 1:1

Ire vs Cro 1:1

Fra vs Eng 0:0

Ukr vs Swe 2:2

now we imagine two line-ups

Player X: Ger, Fra, Pol, Ned, Rus, Cro, Ire

Player Y: Spa, Ger, Pol, Ned, Ukr, Ita, Dan

so, are you able to work out the result ?

does it matter, which teams are R and C ?

Yes ® and © do matter - and players sending in line-ups should mark this on their entry for each round.

It looks like Player Y is representing Denmark, with Spain as the Counterbalance team.

It looks like Player X has made a mistake with his entry, and should have Greece ® in place of Ireland - so firstly give Player X a red card for submitting a wrong entry. Remove the wrong team from the line-up, and add the omitted team to the end.

Poland is in the same slot (both have it in 3), so remove it from both line-ups. Netherlands is also in the same slot for both teams, but it is a © team for one of the players, so it is not removed.

So we now have...

Player X: Ger, Fra, Ned ©, Rus, Cro, Gre ®

Player Y: Spa ©, Ger, Ned, Ukr, Ita, Dan ®

Look at slot 1 for both players. It involved a © team, so refer to situation 3. Both Germany and Spain drew, but Spain is a © team, so Player Y scores a goal. Neither chain broken.

So, move onto slot 2. Both teams there are normal teams, so refer to situation 1. Both France and Germany drew - so no goals scored, no chains broken. The score remains 1-0 to Player Y.

Move onto slot 3 (now that Poland has been removed). It involves the Netherlands for both players, but Player X has it as a © team, so we need to look at situation 3 again. This match ended in a draw, which means that Player X scores a goal, but neither chain is broken. The score is now 1-1.

Move onto slot 4...

It involves two normal teams, so consult situation 1. Both Ukraine and Russia drew their matches, so no goals scored, no chains broken. The score remains 1-1.

Move onto slot 5....

Two normal teams again, so situation 1 again. Both Italy and Croatia drew, so no goals scored, no chains broken. The score remains 1-1.

Move onto slot 6....

This involves two ® teams, so consult situation 5. Both Greece and Denmark lost, so no goals scores, and no chains broken....

But that is still the end of the match, as we have run out of slots.

Final score:

1-1 bore draw.

[chabonowaka 2]

hi kids,

group c, i'm afraid it looks like you got the idiot gyoji for your group, so bad luck for you. nonetheless, here i am, and i'm ready to gyoji. i've already gotten a lineup from Kintamayama, so that leaves officially Rubensan, Doitsuyama, and Asashosakari, i need your lineups for round one.

based on what the others have done, i'm going to ask for a 4 hour window before the round starts for you to give me your lineups. so, and yes, i'm taking this right from Achiyama's gyoji intro, please give me your lineups at latest as follows:

Round 1: Friday 8th June, 14:00 (Central European Summertime - Berlin, Paris, Rome, Warsaw etc.) - 4 hours before kick-off.

Round 2: Tuesday 12th June, 14:00 (Central European Summertime - Berlin, Paris, Rome, Warsaw etc) - 4 hours before kick-off.

Round 3: Saturday 16th June, 16:45 (Central European Summertime - Berlin, Paris, Rome, Warsaw etc) - 4 hours before kick-off.

and i'll be sure to post all lineups like a good little gyoji. (and hey, if you could give me even more time, that would be splendid.)

also, you can either PM me, or email to munkykiller@gmail.com as long as i'm not hitting the bottle, i should get the mails and/or pms pretty quickly.

i think that's it for now, someone yell if i've missed (or goofed up on) something.

Edited June 4, 2012 by chabonowaka

[Asashosakari 20,289]

Sit out.

Seconded.

I'd like to play through, but I suppose I'm not going to find a majority for that. Ah well.

[chabonowaka 2]

Sit out.

Seconded.

I'd like to play through, but I suppose I'm not going to find a majority for that. Ah well.

i'd also keep playing, likely because i don't have a strong rooting interest, and because my expectations are so low that anything's a win for me. :)

[Achiyama 1,272]

I would play, too.

[Kameumi 1]

I would play aswell.

Altho not thrice over as Achiyama would! ;)

[Asashosakari 20,289]

It looks like Player X has made a mistake with his entry, and should have Greece ® in place of Ireland

Or Czech Republic ® instead of Poland.

Edit: As a follow-up practical question to our gyojis ;-) - what would be the match outcome with the resulting lineups?

X: GER, FRA©, NED, RUS, CRO, IRE, CZE®

Y: ESP©, GER, POL, NED, UKR, ITA, DEN®

Results as given by Andonishiki, i.e.

POL vs GRE 2:0

RUS vs CZE 1:1

GER vs POR 1:1

NED vs DEN 3:0

ITA vs ESP 1:1

IRE vs CRO 1:1

FRA vs ENG 0:0

UKR vs SWE 2:2

GER

Edited June 4, 2012 by Asashosakari