Yubinhaad 11,590 Posted March 12, 2012 *Except for a new Juryo rikishi on day 1, who ended up 4-4 (can happen in special circumstances) in his previous basho in Makushita Possible, but I wouldn't worry about it - it's happened once in the seven-bout era, and that was four decades ago. (Now watch it happen each basho this year (Laughing...) ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,959 Posted March 12, 2012 Possible, but I wouldn't worry about it - it's happened once in the seven-bout era, and that was four decades ago. Wakakoyu a few years ago was the first one since 1972 to even get a chance to finish 4-4 in makushita (he converted successfully to 5-3), so I agree, it's probably not something to worry about. :-) BTW, just one basho after that 4-4 promotion there was a 4-4 non-promotion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,590 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) BTW, just one basho after that 4-4 promotion there was a 4-4 non-promotion. Yeah, and from the same rank no less - Aobayama must've been pretty perplexed by that. It took him two further years to finally reach Juryo, but in the end he had a much more successful career than Atsuminada. In that same basho as Aobayama's non-promotion, there was also the only case* of a Jonidan rikishi fighting eight bouts. Wakamaeda's claim to fame. :-) * Well, only known case, anyway. Edited March 12, 2012 by Yubinhaad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,809 Posted March 12, 2012 Yeah, and from the same rank no less - Aobayama must've been pretty perplexed by that. Actually, there is a method to this, as was explained here. The 4-4 of the promoted rikishi came after leading 4-3, so it counted like a 4-3. The subsequent 4-4 of the non-promoted rikishi came after a 3-4. In this case, his promotion was treated like a mixture of 4-3 and 3-4, i.e. no rank change and no promotion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frinkanohana 13 Posted March 12, 2012 Winner Kisenosato Loser Aminishiki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andonishiki 168 Posted March 12, 2012 W: wakakoyu L: aminishiki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,959 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Actually, there is a method to this, as was explained here. The 4-4 of the promoted rikishi came after leading 4-3, so it counted like a 4-3. The subsequent 4-4 of the non-promoted rikishi came after a 3-4. In this case, his promotion was treated like a mixture of 4-3 and 3-4, i.e. no rank change and no promotion. Incidentally, while the treatment of 8th-bout-losses seems pretty consistent over time (being ignored altogether), 8th-bout-wins seem to have had more leeway - I was looking at some early 1990s banzukes a few days ago, and 5-3's (after 4-3) were clearly treated exactly like 5-2's, not the mixed record they're (correctly, IMO) being treated as nowadays. Or maybe they just forget about it sometimes. :-) Edited March 12, 2012 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 532 Posted March 13, 2012 W Kisenosato L Aminishiki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted March 13, 2012 W kisenosato L kotoyuki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenjimoto 40 Posted March 13, 2012 Unchi, forgot to pick yesterday!! W Kisenosato L Takarafuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gusoyama 98 Posted March 13, 2012 W: Ikioi L: Takarafuji (2-0) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takanorappa 88 Posted March 13, 2012 Day 3 W - Kisenosato L - Aminishiki I feel a MAIMing coming on, and it's not even Bench Sumo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikanohara 171 Posted March 13, 2012 W : Kisenosato L : Aminishiki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achiyama 1,229 Posted March 13, 2012 Day 3: Kisenosato to win Tamaasuka to lose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,959 Posted March 13, 2012 Day 3 W Satoyama L Takarafuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,869 Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) Results Day 3: 3-0 Edited March 13, 2012 by Jakusotsu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,869 Posted March 13, 2012 Day 4 Torikumi: Tokushoryu (2-0) vs Masuraumi (2-1) Hokutokuni (1-2) vs Arawashi (2-1) Chiyootori (1-2) vs Sensho (2-1) Tokushinho (2-1) vs Satoyama (1-2) Bushuyama (0-3) vs Oiwato (2-1) Kimurayama (3-0) vs Tsurugidake (0-3) Masunoyama (1-2) vs Kitaharima (1-2) Kyokushuho (3-0) vs Kimikaze (2-1) Nionoumi (1-2) vs Takamisakari (2-1) Asahisho (0-3) vs Yoshiazuma (1-2) Tamaasuka (3-0) vs Kaisei (2-1) Kokkai (2-1) vs Tosayutaka (2-1) Chiyotairyu (2-1) vs Sotairyu (1-2) Sagatsukasa (1-2) vs Kotoyuki (2-1) Tamawashi (2-1) vs Ikioi (0-3) Kitataiki (3-0) vs Takanoyama (0-3) Shotenro (2-1) vs Wakanosato (2-1) Daido (1-2) vs Hochiyama (1-2) Asasekiryu (1-2) vs Takarafuji (2-1) Sadanofuji (0-3) vs Fujiazuma (3-0) Okinoumi (2-1) vs Tenkaiho (0-3) Aoiyama (2-1) vs Takekaze (2-1) Miyabiyama (2-1) vs Toyohibiki (2-1) Takayasu (3-0) vs Goeido (2-1) Chiyonokuni (1-2) vs Homasho (1-2) Toyonoshima (2-1) vs Shohozan (2-1) Wakakoyu (0-3) vs Tochinoshin (1-2) Aran (1-2) vs Yoshikaze (0-3) Tochiozan (2-1) vs Aminishiki (3-0) Kisenosato (1-2) vs Gagamaru (0-3) Tochinowaka (1-2) vs Harumafuji (3-0) Baruto (3-0) vs Kakuryu (3-0) Kyokutenho (0-3) vs Kotoshogiku (2-1) Myogiryu (0-3) vs Kotooshu (2-1) Hakuho (3-0) vs Tokitenku (0-3) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuseigou 22 Posted March 13, 2012 Kisenosato Homasho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted March 13, 2012 W Daido L Shotenro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,639 Posted March 13, 2012 Houmashou to win Kokkai to lose Lutrec 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,639 Posted March 13, 2012 Kisenosato Homasho Both losers- you better change your entry.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,869 Posted March 13, 2012 Day 4: Kokkai Yoshikaze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flohru 176 Posted March 13, 2012 Win: Kisenosato Loss: Toyohibiki (and I thought this game actually will turn out to be too easy...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted March 13, 2012 Day 4: Win: Kisenosato Lose: Kokkai It's a good game, this. And I think Jakusotsu is right...no restrictions seem necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heikotoriki 3 Posted March 13, 2012 day 4: Tochinoshin Kakuryu Heikotoriki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
