Ryoshishokunin 275 Posted December 2, 2016 yorikiried by fate: The Graph still says that I should find it on sumotalk Or Else. Might want to update that part :) (Thanks, it's a neat representation of the data.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted December 2, 2016 5 hours ago, Ryoshishokunin said: yorikiried by fate: The Graph still says that I should find it on sumotalk Or Else. Might want to update that part :) (Thanks, it's a neat representation of the data.) Yeah, well, I saw that before exporting it to PDF. That was before I decided through which channels I would provide it this time. Let's file it under nostalgia. Like with British notes that tell you you'd get actual pounds of silver in exchange etc. 10/10 for reading the small print. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) I want to quickly abuse the current attention level around here to promote the year-end update of the graph. A couple of things happened, so it might be worth switching to the new version. I considered introducing a new colour for Kisenosato ("Nokozuna") but kept my cruelty in check. It would have been unfair to the gang of Fauxzeki... With Ama's downfall, the banzuke yusho experience level record is now set at 56. At least for a while. Also, Takayasu's promotion screwed up my Yok/Oz career history section big time, though you might not even notice it (nothing wrong with the dates, I simply couldn't follow through with my previous unwritten layouting rules). Foreigner levels are very stable on low levels. If you don't have a clue what I'm saying here, download the file and enlighten yourself. Enjoy. https://files.fm/u/y8xjjg7j EDIT: Please get the newer version linked to further down. Edited December 1, 2017 by yorikiried by fate 2 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,012 Posted November 29, 2017 I was waiting for this to come out to find out how long you were going to make Kisenosato's Yokozuna run. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,483 Posted November 30, 2017 I was hoping for this too. Very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oshirokita 173 Posted November 30, 2017 Thanks for the update. I do so love the graphic layout you do with this. So, any thoughts about indicating yusho playoffs in a future version...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) In general, it is of course a simple task to somehow spell out the Makuuchi playoff events. I'm still reflecting about the theme, though. As such, the whole monster is very strongly pointing to the banzuke and not the torikumi. Results play a direct role only to show a more detailed view of the promotions and is of course also represented by naming the "winners of a certain banzuke". Smaller stuff includes the tokens for zensho or 12- yusho. Maybe I'll use that line for inroducing something. Edit: I know now how I could do it and was even prepared to include the data immediately, but since all of Germany's internet seems to have a hangover today, the Doitsubase is in hiding. Later I guess... Edited November 30, 2017 by yorikiried by fate 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted December 1, 2017 Alrighty then. The CPU has cooled down. I included playoffs. While doing this, I deceided to tackle a couple of aesthetic issues that were bugging me already forever (amazing how little I new about InDesign when I started this). So please download the newest version. Next update will be at the end of 2018. Sorry for the bother with the second file so shortly after the previous one. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oshirokita 173 Posted December 1, 2017 40 minutes ago, yorikiried by fate said: I included playoffs. While doing this, I deceided to tackle a couple of aesthetic issues that were bugging me already forever (amazing how little I new about InDesign when I started this). Awesome, love it! Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dada78641 884 Posted December 1, 2017 It says the file will be deleted Jan 30, 2018. If you want permanent storage for this, you might want to consider the Internet Archive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted December 1, 2017 Yeah, well, I can always re-upload or send it on request. I haven't really looked, but free, permanent and anonymous file hosting service seems to be surprisingly rare. Actually, it's not surprising. I'm still sad about the demise of dumpyourphoto. Because of that, 75% percent of my old posts here don't make any sense anymore, because the accompanying image has disappeared. The other 25% are just gibberish intrinsically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,074 Posted December 1, 2017 4 hours ago, yorikiried by fate said: Don't cuddle porcupines after midnight Is that midnight UTC or my local timezone? And for how long after midnight? Is 5am ok? 6am? Do I have to take either my or the porcupine's sleep schedule into account? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted December 1, 2017 Broadway Time Zone (so EST?) and probably til sunrise. Don't pin me down on that. Ask the lamb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dada78641 884 Posted December 1, 2017 7 hours ago, yorikiried by fate said: Yeah, well, I can always re-upload or send it on request. I haven't really looked, but free, permanent and anonymous file hosting service seems to be surprisingly rare. Actually, it's not surprising. I'm still sad about the demise of dumpyourphoto. Because of that, 75% percent of my old posts here don't make any sense anymore, because the accompanying image has disappeared. The other 25% are just gibberish intrinsically. That's why I suggested the IA, they'll take your files and keep them forever because it's an archival project. Provided that you're not violating anyone's copyright. For images, you might want to try imgur. I've got thousands of images on it. Great free image without those awful nag screens like Photobucket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted December 1, 2017 Imgur makes you hand over any rights that you might have on everything you upload. Then I'd rather dump images at a site that doesn't even need registering. You might still end up defending copyrights but at least nobody would have a written statement that you'd agreed in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted November 26, 2018 Here we go again. You know the drill. If you don't know the drill, just download and read the instructions. The file is a tiny, little picture that will inform you about a couple of sumo things. What I learned about last year by just scrolling around a little: The sum of all Makuuchi yusho accumulated by particpating rikishi was in XI/2018 the lowest (6) since V/1983 (4). That was the alltime low, if all time starts in 1958. The 6 of November are tied with VII/1972 for second lowest number. There were three new yusho winners in 2018. The last time that happened was in 2000 (a.k.a. The Great Tumultuous Upheaval At The Threshold Of Great Yokozunae Demise). Courtesy of Musoyama, Takatoriki and Kaio. Which doesn't bode well for Tochinoshin and Mitakeumi, I guess... Foreigners I: In VII and IX we saw the lowest number on foreigners on the banzuke (33) since I/2001 (30). Foreigners II: Lowest number of Sekitori foreigners (14 in XI) since I/2006 (13). Foreigners III: Lowest number of Makuuchi foreigners (9 between V and IX) since IX/2004 (8). Share and enjoy. 8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,483 Posted November 26, 2018 Oooh, I love a graph update. Good job 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted November 26, 2018 This graph is a thing of beauty. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sue 493 Posted November 26, 2018 Looking at the graph, if an Ozeki had managed to take one of the two yushos that Kakuryu won, we would have ended the year with yushos from a Maegashira, a Komusubi, a Sekiwake, an Ozeki, a Yokozuna, and a Dai-Yokozuna, which has never happened. If you don't distinguish between Y and d-Y, the last time four of the five possible ranks won in a calendar year was 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted November 26, 2018 And it's so easy to see!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted November 26, 2018 BTW: 102 downloads and 7 Likes. There goes the neighborhood... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) In the current hon-basho discussion thread, there was brought up the question about the number of yusho winners on the banzuke. As such, as you might know, this is indicated in the graph. Nevertheless, nitpicking led to the question of how many former yusho winners were listed on the Makuuchi section of each banzuke at any point in time, excluding guys in Juryo and below from the count. When the graph was first conceived, this was registered on my side as a non-problem, as instances of such constellations were rare and inconsequential IMHO. With ex-Ozeki Terunofuji this has changed a bit. Not only did he repeat the Miyabiyama precedence of not-retiring as an ex-Ozeki in Juryo, he turned out to be the first and only former Makuuchi yusho winner to drop out of sekitorihood. Full stop. For the sake of the topic, I used the graph and additional infos from the Doitsubase to quickly isolate the instances of Juryo-and-below former winners. You can use the info at your discretion to modify the simpler numbers of the graph. 1967.05 Sekiwake Wakamisugi (Daigo) -> still listed in Juryo but didn't compete -> 5 yusho winners instead of 6 1969.07 Komusubi Wakanami -> Juryo intermezzo -> 5 yusho winners instead of 6 1969.09 Komusubi Wakanami -> 5 yusho winners instead of 6 1984.03 Sekiwake Takamiyama -> Juryo stint before retirement -> 5 yusho winners instead of 6 1984.05 Sekiwake Takamiyama -> 6 yusho winners instead of 7 1988.07 Sekiwake Tagaryu -> visits to upper Juryo at end of career -> 6 yusho winners instead of 7 1989.09 Sekiwake Tagaryu -> 5 yusho winners instead of 6 1989.11 Sekiwake Tagaryu -> 5 yusho winners instead of 6 1990.11 Sekiwake Tagaryu -> 5 yusho winners instead of 6 1991.03 Sekiwake Tagaryu -> 6 yusho winners instead of 7 1991.05 Sekiwake Tagaryu -> 6 yusho winners instead of 7 1994.11 Sekiwake Kotofuji -> Juryo stint before retirement -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 1995.01 Sekiwake Kotofuji -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 1995.03 Sekiwake Kotofuji -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 1995.05 Sekiwake Kotofuji -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 1995.07 Sekiwake Kotofuji -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 1995.09 Sekiwake Kotofuji -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 1999.05 Sekiwake Mitoizumi -> Juryo stint before retirement -> 7 yusho winners instead of 8 1999.07 Sekiwake Mitoizumi -> 7 yusho winners instead of 8 1999.09 Sekiwake Mitoizumi -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 1999.11 Sekiwake Mitoizumi -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 2000.01 Sekiwake Mitoizumi -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 2000.03 Sekiwake Mitoizumi -> 9 yusho winners instead of 10 2000.05 Sekiwake Mitoizumi AND Sekiwake Kotonishiki (Juryo; did not compete; TWO yusho) -> 8 yusho winners instead of 10 (AND minus three yusho) 2000.07 Sekiwake Mitoizumi AND Sekiwake Kotonishiki (Juryo) -> 9 yusho winners instead of 11 (AND minus three yusho) 2000.09 Sekiwake Mitoizumi AND Sekiwake Kotonishiki (Juryo) -> 9 yusho winners instead of 11 (AND minus three yusho) 2001.07 Sekiwake Takatoriki -> visits to upper Juryo at end of career -> 7 yusho winners instead of 8 2001.11 Sekiwake Takatoriki -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 2002.01 Sekiwake Takatoriki -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 2002.05 Sekiwake Takatoriki -> 9 yusho winners instead of 10 2002.07 Sekiwake Takatoriki -> 9 yusho winners instead of 10 2002.09 Sekiwake Takatoriki -> 9 yusho winners instead of 10 2013.09 Ozeki Baruto -> still listed in Juryo but didn't compete -> 4 yusho winners instead of 5 2018.03 Ozeki Terunofuji -> Juryo -> 6 yusho winners instead of 7 2018.05 Ozeki Terunofuji -> Juryo -> 6 yusho winners instead of 7 2018.07 Ozeki Terunofuji -> Makushita; didn't compete -> 6 yusho winners instead of 7 2018.09 Ozeki Terunofuji -> Makushita; didn't compete -> 7 yusho winners instead of 8 2018.11 Ozeki Terunofuji -> Sandanme; didn't compete -> 7 yusho winners instead of 8 2019.01 Ozeki Terunofuji -> Sandanme; didn't compete -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 2019.03 Ozeki Terunofuji -> Jonidan -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 2019.05 Ozeki Terunofuji -> Sandanme -> 8 yusho winners instead of 9 Conclusion: In this version, the Nagoya banzuke will have 9 winners instead of 10. The record stands at 10 (instead of 11) from various basho in the early 2000s. Edited May 27, 2019 by yorikiried by fate forgot that Kisenosato has dropped out 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) Another year in the books. All those moments will be lost in time like grains of salt on a dohyo. (Or grains of rice in Akiseyama.) The new wallpaper. As per tradition (which I started last year), a couple of notes about the past year in regards to trivia that is easily accessible through The Graph: The main graph line, which represents Makuuchi yusho wins on the banzuke, has reached an alltime high with Kyushu at 57. This means we had the experienciestest banzuke of all time. Or it means Hakuho is still there. Pick one. (If this trend continues I am going to run into layout problems pretty soon, so time to start some anti-Hakuho petitions/propaganda; is Giuliani available?) September saw the first Sekiwake-only playoff in human history (i.e. post-58) Takakeisho's promotion to Ozeki has the unique pattern of "result basho #1 > #2 > #3". This has not happened before. Takakeisho started his Ozrun with a yusho from sanyaku ranks. The last time this happened was in March 1993, courtesy of Wakahanada (soon-to-be Wakanohana). Note that Tochinoshin's Ozrun in 2018 also started with a yusho. He was ranked M3w, though. Takakeisho's absence in July was the first absence of a kadoban Ozeki since V/2004 (Tochiazuma). The year saw 4 Ozeki demotions*, which is a new record (previously 3 in 2000); if you expand the period to three years (back to 2017) we stand at 6 demotions, which is decent. It doesn't beat the two year period of 2000/01, though, which featured 5. Takakeisho's repromotion was the best try ever at 12-3D (previous holder was Tochiazuma in I/2005 at 11-4). Tochinoshin's repromotion was the first one since Tochiazuma's in January 2005. Seeing 2 repromotions in 3 basho is unprecedented. Kyushu also brought us 4 Komusubi, the first time this happened since XI/2006. Coincidentally, this is exactly the same gap as between the two most recent Tool releases, so is it a coincidence after all?! Anyhow, 2006 is also the year Hakuho started to win yushos, so that is that. Foreigners I: The bleed-out seems to slowly stabilize. The last three basho saw 31 foreigners on the whole banzuke, which is the lowest number since January 2001 (30). Between XI/2000 and III/2001 there was a big influx of foreigners, constituting the second Mongolian wave (including Ama, Hakuho, Mokonami, Shotenro). Foreigners II: The 7 foreigners listed in Makuuchi for Kyushu was the lowest number since V/2004 (6). It might be (but that is tough to really access through the graph without developing a squint) that Takakeisho is the first and only guy ever to have seen the exact same Yokozunae on the banzuke at the time of his Ozeki promotion as at the time of his banzuke debut. The link will work for two months, so go for it! *Or rather "demotion trigger events", as Takayasu fulfilled the requirements for a demotion for the January banzuke at Kyushu. That is the actual meaning of the stat and record I quoted. If demotion as in "new Banzuke" is meant, I will have to look for that once more...** **See my post further down. Edited November 28, 2019 by yorikiried by fate Subtleties concerning Ozdem. 5 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,480 Posted November 27, 2019 12 hours ago, yorikiried by fate said: It might be (but that is tough to really access through the graph without developing a squint) that Takakeisho is the first and only guy ever to have seen the exact same Yokozunae on the banzuke at the time of his Ozeki promotion as at the time of his banzuke debut. Takakeisho also had Harumafuji as a Yokozuna when he started out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Sakura said: Takakeisho also had Harumafuji as a Yokozuna when he started out. Caught. Well done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites