Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted September 15, 2011 The makuuchi leaders are solely upper rankers now as Kokkai and Kyokutenho lost to leave all maegashira rikishi with at least one loss. Beyond the three undefeated rikishi Hakuho, Kotoshogiku and Kisenosato the rest of the sanyaku actually is nothing to brag about as Baruto and Kakuryu are next at 3-2 with hard-fought wins today, while Harumafuji stumbled to Takekaze and Kotooshu just cleanly lost to Wakanosato, making the Bulgarian 2-8 since day 11 last basho. The two komusubi meanwhile are a combined 1-9, going solely against higher ranked rikishi so far which obviously isn't much of an excuse given what I wrote before. The joi-jin isn't exactly picking up on the sanyaku weaknesses as Homasho is the only one with more wins than losses despite losing today. Tochiozan is 4-1 but mostly faced rikishi outside the joi-jin so far. The same can be said for his heya-mate Tochinoshin who is 3-2, and that's a bit surprising as both are in the top 16 rikishi. Further down Takanoyama still is searching for the first win as he can't get around his opponents so far. Yoshiazuma is doing better at 2-3, giving Kokkai his first loss. Young Masunoyama suffered an ankle injury yesterday and looks like the first sure demotion to juryo as his two wins so far will not be enough to stay. Juryo still has two undefeated rikishi but only one leader as Hokutokuni is 5-0 with a win over Nionoumi while Aoiyama took the other leader Matsutani out for his third win since entering the basho on day 3. Myogiryu is the only other rikishi at 4-1 in the upper half with the three shin-sekitori Kimikaze, Kyokushuho and Chiyoarashi completing the 4-1 field. The six shin-sekitori actually all won today with Kotoyuki and Chiyozakura finally getting their first win as a sekitori. Day 5 Juryo J13e Hishofuji (2-3) yoritaoshi J14e Hamanishiki (0-5) J12w Kotoyuki (1-4) oshitaoshi J12e Satoyama (3-2) J10w Kyokushuho (4-1) shitatenage J14w Hitenryu (2-3) J13w Hokutokuni (5-0) hikiotoshi J10e Nionoumi (3-2) J11w Chiyoarashi (4-1) oshitaoshi J9w Kaonishiki (2-3) J11e Chiyozakura (1-4) yorikiri J7w Takamisakari (2-3) J9e Chiyonokuni (3-2) uwatenage J7e Tamanoshima (0-5) J8w Kimikaze (4-1) tsukiotoshi J6w Shironoryu (1-4) J5w Masuraumi (2-3) sukuinage J8e Sadanoumi (2-3) J6e Aoiyama (3-0-2) oshidashi J5e Matsutani (4-1) J3e Myogiryu (4-1) oshidashi J2w Tsurugidake (3-2) J4w Sotairyu (3-2) hikiotoshi J2e Sadanofuji (3-2) J1w Takarafuji (3-2) oshidashi J4e Bushuyama (1-4) J3w Tenkaiho (2-3) yorikiri J1e Tochinonada (1-4) Makuuchi M15e Daido (3-2) oshidashi M17e Hochiyama (2-3) M14w Shotenro (2-3) oshidashi M14e Tosayutaka (2-3) M13w Tamaasuka (2-3) yorikiri M15w Takanoyama (0-5) M13e Yoshiazuma (2-3) uwatenage M16e Kokkai (4-1) M12w Asasekiryu (4-1) hatakikomi M16w Kimurayama (2-3) M11e Kitataiki (4-1) yorikiri M12e Aminishiki (3-2) M11w Gagamaru (4-1) yoritaoshi M10w Kyokutenho (4-1) M10e Tamawashi (2-3) fusen M9e Masunoyama (2-3) M8e Kaisei (3-2) oshidashi M8w Toyohibiki (0-5) M9w Sagatsukasa (2-3) ipponzeoi M7w Tochinowaka (3-2) M5e Miyabiyama (3-2) hikiotoshi M7e Fujiazuma (1-4) M6w Wakakoyu (2-3) hatakikomi M4w Tokitenku (3-2) M5w Goeido (3-2) kirikaeshi M4e Tochinoshin (3-2) M3w Tochiozan (4-1) okuritaoshi M6e Takayasu (2-3) S1e Kotoshogiku (5-0) oshitaoshi M1e Homasho (3-2) S2e Kakuryu (3-2) yorikiri K1w Aran (0-5) S1w Kisenosato (5-0) yorikiri M1w Okinoumi (2-3) M3e Takekaze (1-4) uwatenage O1e Harumafuji (2-3) M2e Wakanosato (2-3) sukuinage O2w Kotooshu (1-4) O1w Baruto (3-2) yorikiri K1e Toyonoshima (1-4) Y1e Hakuho (5-0) hatakikomi M2w Yoshikaze (1-4) Day 6 Juryo J13e Hishofuji (2-3) Ms2e Tokushinho (1-2) J14w Hitenryu (2-3) J12w Kotoyuki (1-4) J14e Hamanishiki (0-5) J10w Kyokushuho (4-1) J9e Chiyonokuni (3-2) J13w Hokutokuni (5-0) J12e Satoyama (3-2) J9w Kaonishiki (2-3) J8e Sadanoumi (2-3) J11e Chiyozakura (1-4) J10e Nionoumi (3-2) J8w Kimikaze (4-1) J11w Chiyoarashi (4-1) J7w Takamisakari (2-3) J7e Tamanoshima (0-5) J5w Masuraumi (2-3) J4e Bushuyama (1-4) J6w Shironoryu (1-4) J3e Myogiryu (4-1) J6e Aoiyama (3-0-2) J2e Sadanofuji (3-2) J5e Matsutani (4-1) J4w Sotairyu (3-2) J2w Tsurugidake (3-2) J3w Tenkaiho (2-3) J1w Takarafuji (3-2) Makuuchi M17e Hochiyama (2-3) J1e Tochinonada (1-4) M14e Tosayutaka (2-3) M16e Kokkai (4-1) M15w Takanoyama (0-5) M14w Shotenro (2-3) M13e Yoshiazuma (2-3) M16w Kimurayama (2-3) M15e Daido (3-2) M13w Tamaasuka (2-3) M11e Kitataiki (4-1) M12w Asasekiryu (4-1) M12e Aminishiki (3-2) M10w Kyokutenho (4-1) M11w Gagamaru (4-1) M9w Sagatsukasa (2-3) M8e Kaisei (3-2) M10e Tamawashi (2-3) M7e Fujiazuma (1-4) M8w Toyohibiki (0-5) M7w Tochinowaka (3-2) M6w Wakakoyu (2-3) M5e Miyabiyama (3-2) M6e Takayasu (2-3) M5w Goeido (3-2) M4w Tokitenku (3-2) M4e Tochinoshin (3-2) M2w Yoshikaze (1-4) M1e Homasho (3-2) S1w Kisenosato (5-0) S1e Kotoshogiku (5-0) K1e Toyonoshima (1-4) S2e Kakuryu (3-2) M1w Okinoumi (2-3) M2e Wakanosato (2-3) O1w Baruto (3-2) O1e Harumafuji (2-3) K1w Aran (0-5) M3w Tochiozan (4-1) O2w Kotooshu (1-4) Y1e Hakuho (5-0) M3e Takekaze (1-4) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,817 Posted September 15, 2011 Chiyozakura finally getting his first win as a sekitori Helped by 17 players picking Takamisakari in SekiQuad, I'm sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,832 Posted September 15, 2011 J11e Chiyozakura (1-4) yorikiri J7w Takamisakari (2-3) J9e Chiyonokuni (3-2) uwatenage J7e Tamanoshima (0-5) J3w Tenkaiho (2-3) yorikiri J1e Tochinonada (1-4) It ain't easy being a makuuchi veteran in juryo these days... Tamanoshima looks even more awful than usual - the spirit is there (which hasn't always been the case in past juryo appearances), but it's not getting him anywhere. Wouldn't be surprised if he's intai by March... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sokkenaiyama 76 Posted September 15, 2011 I'm surprised nobody said anything about Sagatsukasa's mighty throw against the not-so-slim Tochinowaka. What a sight to behold... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gernobono 456 Posted September 15, 2011 I'm surprised nobody said anything about Sagatsukasa's mighty throw against the not-so-slim Tochinowaka. What a sight to behold... it was like amsterdam all over again (On the banzuke...) i am not saying it was staged, but in amsterdam there wer more than one ipponzeoi... great effort by the small semi-boldy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shumitto 418 Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) Juryo J13e Hishofuji (2-3) yoritaoshi J14e Hamanishiki (0-5) J1w Takarafuji (3-2) oshidashi J4e Bushuyama (1-4) Not exactly Makuuchi Veterans strictu sensu but veterans anyway struggling. However I like him, I avoided Bushuyama in Juryo game only to be let down by Tochinonada. Matsutani was a much safer bet I guess. I wsa thinking that makushitans filling in for Juryo regulars would give some veterans more career time. I was wrong, I suppose, as this younger generation fighting their way up is a much tougher opposition than some settled veterans and their mates playing their backscrathing game. Tamanoshima has been on borrowed time for very long now though. I hope he retires soon and hope, too, that Sagatsukasa doesn't attempt the Ipponzeoi again today. Edited September 15, 2011 by shumitto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Igordemorais 75 Posted September 16, 2011 That throw was beautiful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,832 Posted September 16, 2011 (edited) I wsa thinking that makushitans filling in for Juryo regulars would give some veterans more career time. I was wrong, I suppose, as this younger generation fighting their way up is a much tougher opposition than some settled veterans and their mates playing their backscrathing game. Goes to show how much desire and opportunity can compensate for maybe not having enough pure skill (yet) - and just how much the backscratchers likely impeded other rikishis' careers. ;-) (And that the "these guys weren't good enough to break through to juryo, so how good would they have been anyway?" argument some were making back in February was cutting things too short.) Tough luck for guys like Tamanoshima and Takamisakari who by everything I've read are totally clean that they're declining right now...even if you were a clean rikishi a few years ago, fighting in juryo was probably much easier because all your yaocho'ing opponents were already assured 5-5's from their backscratching circle and could afford to go at less than 100% in their gachinko bouts. The upstarts aren't so kind. In any case, I like the rediscovered competitiveness down there. Juryo ain't supposed to be a pre-retirement home. Edited September 16, 2011 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites