New Juryo promotions for July 2011

[Kintamayama 47,338]

First timers:

Aoiyama - Bulgarian

Takanoyama - Czech

Arawashi- Mongolian (MK, missed that one..)

Kaounishiki

Tenkaihou (Minami)

Chiyonokuni

Hitenryuu (Mochimaru)

Back to Juryo:

Kakizoe (with a MK)

Kanbayashi

Matsutani

Soutairyuu

Myougiryuu

Hamanishiki

Edited May 25, 2011 by Kintamayama

[nomadwolf 8]

With Natsu ranks & results:

First timers:

Aoiyama - ms1e 5-2

Takanoyama - ms2e 5-2

Arawashi- ms3e 3-4 (also MK!)

Kaounishiki - ms3w 5-2

Tenkaihou (Minami) - ms6e 4-3

Chiyonokuni - ms9e 5-2

Hitenryuu (Mochimaru) - ms10e 4-3

Back to Juryo:

Kakizoe - ms1w 3-4

Kanbayashi - ms2w 4-3

Matsutani - ms4w 7-0 Yusho

Soutairyuu - ms7e 6-1

Myougiryuu - ms8e 4-3

Hamanishiki - ms10w 6-1

lowest ranked promoted rikishi by rank:

3-4 ms3e Arawashi

4-3 ms10e ex-Mochimaru

5-2 ms9e Chiyonokuni

6-1 ms10w Hamanishiki

7-0 just the 1.

Alas, they were short on choices for Mochimaru (excepting reducing the number of Sekitori further) since the next 5-2 rikishi was Oniarashi at ms16e.

[Asojima 2,874]

I got them all except Mochimaru. I gave an MK nod to Nionoumi in his place. (I am not worthy...)

[Asashosakari 20,287]

Somebody on 2ch asked the interesting question what they would have done if the senshuraku results had been reversed, i.e. an Arawashi win against Mochimaru and a Kakizoe loss in juryo, as that would have removed Mochimaru and Kakizoe from consideration and only Nionoumi was in a credible position to fill one of those two spots.

I do have to say that it's the most fair decision, lack of precedent or not - Mochimaru instead of Nionoumi and Arawashi instead of Kyokushuho/Oniarashi are both in line with the way makushita rikishi with their respective results are usually ordered on the next banzuke.

Before anyone asks, Tenkaiho not only doesn't look like Kaiho, it's a different -kai- kanji, too. Heavenly armour phoenix, okay...

Edited May 25, 2011 by Asashosakari

[shumitto 419]

First timers:

Aoiyama - Bulgarian

Takanoyama - Czech

Arawashi- Mongolian (MK, missed that one..)

Kaounishiki

Tenkaihou (Minami)

Chiyonokuni

Hitenryuu (Mochimaru)

Back to Juryo:

Kakizoe (with a MK)

Kanbayashi

Matsutani

Soutairyuu

Myougiryuu

Hamanishiki

How many of them do you think you hold sekitori status by Kyushu 2012 ?

My guess:

Aoiyama

Chiyonokuni

Matsutani

Myougiryuu

maybe Tenkaihou

[Pippooshu 1]

First timers:

Aoiyama - Bulgarian

Takanoyama - Czech

Arawashi- Mongolian (MK, missed that one..)

Kaounishiki

Tenkaihou (Minami)

Chiyonokuni

Hitenryuu (Mochimaru)

Back to Juryo:

Kakizoe (with a MK)

Kanbayashi

Matsutani

Soutairyuu

Myougiryuu

Hamanishiki

All these??? :-O

Kakizoe also? With his MK???? Why?

[Asashosakari 20,287]

Before anyone asks, Tenkaiho not only doesn't look like Kaiho, it's a different -kai- kanji, too. Heavenly armour phoenix, okay...

An explanation has come forward - "ten" from Minami's hometown Tensui-machi (nowadays incorporated in a larger city), and kai/armour on a suggestion by his father to symbolize a desire for doing "big-time sumo".

How many of them do you think you hold sekitori status by Kyushu 2012 ?

My guess:

Aoiyama

Chiyonokuni

Matsutani

Myougiryuu

maybe Tenkaihou

I'm not really sold on Tenkaiho, just seems like Tokushinho v2.0 to me. So, for me it's the other four as well, and I think Sotairyu might also be able to carve out a niche as a successful speedster for a while. (And I'm rooting for Takanoyama like the good little bandwagoner I am. :-O) But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if 5+ of these 13 guys aren't even sekitori in this year's Kyushu, let alone 2012.

The Nagoya makushita-joi may be an even bigger free-for-all than the one we just watched...even if rikishi like Takanoyama, Kaonishiki and Kanbayashi aren't going to be sekitori mainstays, they were makushita-joi mainstays and about 8 of these guys have now been shuttled away for the next little while. Could be a lot of surprise performances in Nagoya and Aki when the next tier of rikishi doesn't have to compete against them.

Edited May 25, 2011 by Asashosakari

[ryafuji 825]

First timers:

Aoiyama - Bulgarian

Takanoyama - Czech

Arawashi- Mongolian (MK, missed that one..)

Kaounishiki

Tenkaihou (Minami)

Chiyonokuni

Hitenryuu (Mochimaru)

Back to Juryo:

Kakizoe (with a MK)

Kanbayashi

Matsutani

Soutairyuu

Myougiryuu

Hamanishiki

All these??? :-O

Kakizoe also? With his MK???? Why?

Because a lot of rikishi who were ranked in juryo were kicked out and they have a lot of spaces to fill.

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

Lonely musing: Won't a guy with Takanoyama's physique profit from moving up to the 15 bouts schedule. Sure he will lose some, but he should the fitter half of any encounter in the second week. Or no?

[Yubinhaad 11,975]

Mainichi article on the Juryo promotions Edited May 26, 2011 by Yubinhaad

[Borislav 4]

Lonely musing: Won't a guy with Takanoyama's physique profit from moving up to the 15 bouts schedule. Sure he will lose some, but he should the fitter half of any encounter in the second week. Or no?

It makes some sense, so I will be as eager as you to see if it works this way :)

[Asashosakari 20,287]

Lonely musing: Won't a guy with Takanoyama's physique profit from moving up to the 15 bouts schedule. Sure he will lose some, but he should the fitter half of any encounter in the second week. Or no?

I think it also helps him in that he's an all-or-nothing type of rikishi...if his (which I say with great admiration) trickery doesn't work he tends to have extremely one-sided losses. Two of those in makushita and your basho is nearly over as you now need to win 4 out of 5 - two of them in juryo and you still have 13 days to make up for them. (I think this is also true for very young/inexperienced rikishi in addition to the undersized ones.) Rikishi with a more consistent competitive profile don't gain as much in the move from 7 to 15 bouts, in my impression.

[Asashosakari 20,287]

Shin-juryo Kaonishiki was presented a kesho-mawashi by his alma mater Toyo University on Thursday. To the surprise of no one it's the standard-issue university design:

He's also set to receive one from his hometown koenkai, and in addition he'll get to use a kesho that has been handed down from Akebono to Ushiomaru and now to him. And since there's the occasional question of what rikishi have studied - Kaonishiki graduated from the department of law.

Edited June 24, 2011 by Asashosakari

[shumitto 419]

I 've just realized that now, after having recourse to the DB, but it's been a looooong while since Hamanishiki's last basho in juryo, which dates back to 11.2004. He has surpassed Wakatenro with longest gap in between sekitori basho IIRC.

[Asashosakari 20,287]

I 've just realized that now, after having recourse to the DB, but it's been a looooong while since Hamanishiki's last basho in juryo, which dates back to 11.2004. He has surpassed Wakatenro with longest gap in between sekitori basho IIRC.

No, the previous record holder was somebody different. (See also Flohru's follow-up with another potential candidate to exceed Hamanishiki.)

The new banzuke topics - only Japanese version online so far - have the top 10, BTW. Wakatenro is joint 4th now.

[Naganoyama 6,043]

English version of banzuke topics now online