Kintamayama 44,349 Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) Fallout-NHK Magazine closes for good? The bi-monthly NHK Sumo Magazine which suspended its coming issue (like they did last year when NHK suspended their broadcast) is apparently folding for good. "With all these affairs sprouting up, we find it extremely difficult to continue publishing the magazine," said someone. It is not official, but the reporter says it is. Last November, the Yomiuri Ozumo magazine ceased to exist, which now leaves the monthly Baseball Magazine-sha's "Sumo" the lone Sumo magazine out there. Edited February 20, 2011 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,784 Posted February 20, 2011 I had a strange case of deja vu when I read the blurb today...I could swear I'd seen something about them closing up shop later this year even before the yaocho scandal hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 28 Posted February 20, 2011 Actually the NHK's Sumo Chukei magazine is more or less a PR magazine for their sumo broadcast as it's been always a special issue of their TV magazine lineups so since there is no Haru Basho broadcast, there is no point in publishing it. Their subscription base has reached to an alarming low level and it's been a case of when, not if when they cease the publication. With their BS coverage gone now and knowing how fragile their Sogo coverage is, like when they have a Diet session, NHK feels they no longer need to advertise it as much. On the other hand, I do miss the Yomiuri's Ozumo magazine. I stuck with it even after they went bi-monthly as they had a bit more lighter outlook on Ozumo but then they were getting back so many unsold issues, they had no choice. At least as long as Ozumo is going, we can still depend on the Baseball Sha's Sumo magazine as they like to call themselves the official sanctioned magazine of Ozumo, regardless how low their subscriber base falls. Heck there is even a kayak magazine in Japan so I am sure they can find some way to keep publishing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,349 Posted February 21, 2011 Juicy fallout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovesumo 12 Posted February 21, 2011 Juicy fallout Sorry but LOOOOOOOOOL What's lost for Osaka goes to Asakusa etc. Especially now that there is spare time... What's love got to do with it.... (Shaking head...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peterao 3 Posted February 21, 2011 Sorry butLOOOOOOOOOL What's lost for Osaka goes to Asakusa etc. What, Kabukicho ain't good enough for them?? Especially now that there is spare time... I think I'd be putting money aside for a rainy day until I was sure what the future had in store for me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovesumo 12 Posted February 21, 2011 Sorry butLOOOOOOOOOL What's lost for Osaka goes to Asakusa etc. What, Kabukicho ain't good enough for them?? Especially now that there is spare time... I think I'd be putting money aside for a rainy day until I was sure what the future had in store for me... Asakusa is walking distance, but I guess taxi's better anyway. Come on, calling the clubs but thinking about the future? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peterao 3 Posted February 21, 2011 I think I'd be putting money aside for a rainy day until I was sure what the future had in store for me... Come on, calling the clubs but thinking about the future? I said that's what *I'd* be doing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoviki 16 Posted February 21, 2011 Juicy fallout So they are using pay phones not mobile phones because.. the ones who have to cancel are probably the ones who turned in their phones already..LOL Seriously, this is why a lot of guys don't want to turn in their phones. So much personal stuff is on the phone... It may not be related to yaocho or gambling but they may not want all their love-love emails from their girlfriends read. Or personal stuff with family. So what if they have a mistress' phone number or establishment in their phones. It isn't against the law and men in Japan who are not related to the kyokai do frequent these establishments often! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peterao 3 Posted February 21, 2011 Why is every sumo discussion devolving into sex talk?? (Blushing...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,349 Posted February 21, 2011 Why is every sumo discussion devolving into sex talk?? (Blushing...) Because there are certain jijii members (geeeezzz..) of this forum (OK, one..) who can't seem to get his head out of the gutter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peterao 3 Posted February 21, 2011 I couldn't tell if it's been mentioned of not, but Hakuho's tsukebito (the one recently accused of being a go-between for yaocho) has submitted his intai paperwork. Like the others, it has not been processed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachiyama 107 Posted February 21, 2011 I couldn't tell if it's been mentioned of not, but Hakuho's tsukebito (the one recently accused of being a go-between for yaocho) has submitted his intai paperwork. can you give me his name? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,349 Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) I couldn't tell if it's been mentioned of not, but Hakuho's tsukebito (the one recently accused of being a go-between for yaocho) has submitted his intai paperwork. can you give me his name? We have already established that it's Koubou (ex-Mizakura). Edited February 21, 2011 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,349 Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) Mongolian Shoutenrou* is declaring his total innocence. His name was mentioned once, and that was when someone said he was gachinko. "I have nothing to do with this whatsoever. I'd like to mount the hon-basho dohyo as quickly as possible so everyone can see that I am fighting seriously," he said. "To be named like that is really frustrating. *I never proposed any yaocho, all that happened was that my name came up once.. I can't allow this!" he said. He totally denied any yaocho involvement when he was interviewed by the Kyokai, and was not called back. He willingly gave them his bank book and his mobile phone as well. "If you're innocent, continue your straightforward ways," said his Oyakata Fujishima. * Fixed Freudian slip. Edited February 21, 2011 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachiyama 107 Posted February 21, 2011 I couldn't tell if it's been mentioned of not, but Hakuho's tsukebito (the one recently accused of being a go-between for yaocho) has submitted his intai paperwork. can you give me his name? We have already established that it's Koubou (ex-Mizakura). Missed it somehow and can't find it still. But thanks anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,349 Posted February 21, 2011 Mongolian Shironoryuu is declaring his total innocence. His name was mentioned once, and that was when someone said he was gachinko. "I have nothing to do with this whatsoever. I'd like to mount the hon-basho dohyo as quickly as possible so everyone can see that I am fighting seriously," he said. "To be named like that is really frustrating. *I never proposed any yaocho, all that happened was that my name came up once.. I can't allow this!" he said. He totally denied any yaocho involvement when he was interviewed by the Kyokai, and was not called back. He willingly gave them his bank book and his mobile phone as well. "If you're innocent, continue your straightforward ways," said his Oyakata Fujishima. It should be Shotenro! Yes, thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,349 Posted February 21, 2011 I couldn't tell if it's been mentioned of not, but Hakuho's tsukebito (the one recently accused of being a go-between for yaocho) has submitted his intai paperwork. can you give me his name? We have already established that it's Koubou (ex-Mizakura). Missed it somehow and can't find it still. But thanks anyway. Post 405 at the top of this page. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,349 Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) *The Special Committee convened today and guess what?? Nothing. "It's going to take a long time to check the phones and get to the bottom of this whole affair bla bla two months for a local phone and 5-6 months for a foreign make blabla but the makers will not cooperate because they say there's a problem as it is an invasion of the rikishira's privacy so what can we do bla bla bla and why are the 4 rikishi still not handing over their cellphones and their Oyakata should lean on them but the rikishi are not complying.." No pause for air. In short- Nothing. Tomorrow, another rijikai. "I was called by the special committee because they wanted to tell me stuff. I shall tell some of the stuff to the other riji tomorrow. No punishments probably tomorrow as well sorry sorry they want to get the investigation moving quickly quickly so sorry," said Hanaregoma rijicho, who can play the press and the world at large a pre-recorded message to make things easier on his vocal chords maybe. * No sexual references were included in this message. Edited February 21, 2011 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,349 Posted February 21, 2011 Hakuhou resumed keiko after three days amid the rumors. He sure looks worried to me, like a rabbit caught in a headlight.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,784 Posted February 21, 2011 Mongolian Shoutenrou* is declaring his total innocence. (...) He totally denied any yaocho involvement when he was interviewed by the Kyokai, and was not called back. He willingly gave them his bank book and his mobile phone as well. Incidentally, Koryu is also swearing up and down that he didn't do nuthin' (despite featuring quite a bit more prominently in the mails than Shotenro...) and as a show of goodwill has submitted not just his own bank book but also a second one he was using that was registered in his newly-wed wife's name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,784 Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) Yet another "incidentally" I've been meaning to mention: Tomorrow, another rijikai. "I was called by the special committee because they wanted to tell me stuff. I shall tell some of the stuff to the other riji tomorrow. No punishments probably tomorrow as well sorry sorry they want to get the investigation moving quickly quickly so sorry," said Hanaregoma rijicho, who can play the press and the world at large a pre-recorded message to make things easier on his vocal chords maybe. Hanaregoma might well be fuming privately. A comment in one of the less reputable sections of the Japanese media prompted me to review our good old Itai translations thread, specifically for this part: *So Oonokuni should be given much bigger credit to, because, he once was a (little) yaocho rikishi when he was very low-ranked. But at one time he decided to quit it ( Tochitsukasa quit too ) which of course would bring lot of disastrous revenges from yaocho rikishis. Yaocho rikishi couldn't arrange his basho plans because of several gachinko rikishis in the way, so they all would try their best ( or worst ) to beat up gachinko rikishis. Oonokuni however never let them defeat him. As far as Itai knows, Oonokuhi has been one and the only yokozuna who's made his rank without NO yaocho bouts. The article I read the other day went into a bit more detail, and apparently Onokuni's "little yaocho" was when he was reluctantly pulled into it as he was on his way through juryo (he spent only three basho there). On finding out around the time of his makuuchi debut, his shisho delivered a stern lecture to him, and henceforth Onokuni was purely gachinko, it's said. The shisho? Hanaregoma. (Fresh off a career in which he'd earnt the ozeki rank the hard way twice and lost it in short order both times, arguably the one way to spot a gachinko ozeki...) Edited February 21, 2011 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peterao 3 Posted February 21, 2011 Yet another "incidentally" I've been meaning to mention:The article I read the other day went into a bit more detail, and apparently Onokuni's "little yaocho" was when he was reluctantly pulled into it as he was on his way through juryo (he spent only three basho there). On finding out around the time of his makuuchi debut, his shisho delivered a stern lecture to him, and henceforth Onokuni was purely gachinko, it's said. The shisho? Hanaregoma. (Fresh off a career in which he'd earnt the ozeki rank the hard way twice and lost it in short order both times, arguably the one way to spot a gachinko ozeki...) So if Hanaregoma himself is aware of and deplores yaocho, then why wouldn't he himself come out and expose it? Is the concept of "gachinko" limited to the dohyo, leaving them free to indulge in dirty secret keeping in other aspects of life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,349 Posted February 21, 2011 So if Hanaregoma himself is aware of and deplores yaocho, then why wouldn't he himself come out and expose it? Is the concept of "gachinko" limited to the dohyo, leaving them free to indulge in dirty secret keeping in other aspects of life? I honestly think he, like a principle at a school where students smoke pot, really doesn't know what exactly goes on in detail. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew nothing concrete at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peterao 3 Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) So if Hanaregoma himself is aware of and deplores yaocho, then why wouldn't he himself come out and expose it? Is the concept of "gachinko" limited to the dohyo, leaving them free to indulge in dirty secret keeping in other aspects of life? I honestly think he, like a principle at a school where students smoke pot, really doesn't know what exactly goes on in detail. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew nothing concrete at all. I think that the principal does, in principle, know a lot more about what's really going on than he lets on to knowing. Edited February 21, 2011 by Peterao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
