Doitsuyama 1,192 Posted March 26, 2004 Chiyotaikai won a good bout against Asaskiryu while Asashoryu won quickly against Kaio who disappointed again. The number of yusho candidates now is reduced to three as it is ensured now that the yusho will be at worst 14-1 and Kaio has two losses now. The three yusho candidates aren't facing each other tomorrow, as Asashoryu against Chiyotaikai will be on Senshuraku and Asasekiryu can face Asashoryu only in a playoff. Several Maegashira rikishi had a reason to celebrate today as Kyokutenho, Hokutoriki, Buyuzan, Kokkai, Takekaze and Kaiho all achieved kachi-koshi today. Kyokutenho can eye to the Sanyaku ranks as Kakizoe is make-koshi now and should be Maegashira again next basho. Hayateumi and Hakuho won today and continue to lead Juryo, at 10-3 now. Kasugao is the only pursuer at 9-4. Five more at 8-5 can enjoy their kachi-koshi but only have slim theoretical yusho chances left. -- Doitsuyama Day 13 Juryo J13w Masutsuyoshi (3-10) katasukashi J14w Ichinotani (4-9) Ms2e Kotooshu (7-0) yorikiri J13e Daimanazuru (5-8) J14e Wakakosho (5-8) okuritaoshi J11w Dewanofuji (6-7) J8w Hakuho (10-3) oshidashi J11e Tokitenku (7-6) J7w Tamarikido (6-7) okuridashi J9w Juzan (3-10) J6e Kitazakura (8-5) yorikiri J10e Hamanishiki (6-7) J12w Bushuyama (8-5) oshidashi J5e Takanowaka (8-5) J12e Ama (8-5) hatakikomi J4e Wakatoba (6-7) J3e Kobo (8-5) yorikiri J4w Kaido (7-6) J2w Hayateumi (10-3) yorikiri J10w Sumanofuji (7-6) J9e Takanotsuru (7-6) yorikiri J2e Tamakasuga (7-6) J6w Kasugao (9-4) yorikiri J1w Otsukasa (6-7) J1e Oikari (6-7) shitatenage J7e Gojoro (7-6) Makuuchi M16w Kaiho (8-5) makiotoshi M14e Harunoyama (7-6) J3w Roho (6-7) sukuinage M13w Chiyotenzan (2-11) M11w Takekaze (8-5) oshidashi M11e Asanowaka (4-9) M17e Yotsukasa (6-7) oshidashi M10w Kotoryu (7-6) M16e Wakanoyama (2-11) hikiotoshi M10e Kasuganishiki (4-9) M9w Kokkai (8-5) yorikiri M13e Kotonowaka (9-4) M9e Buyuzan (8-5) oshidashi M14w Ushiomaru (7-6) M15e Futeno (5-8) uwatenage M8e Takamisakari (7-6) M15w Toyozakura (5-8) oshidashi M7w Kinkaiyama (3-10) M4w Tosanoumi (4-9) yorikiri M8w Takanonami (4-9) M2w Kyokutenho (8-5) yorikiri M12e Toki (7-6) M2e Dejima (7-6) yorikiri M3w Tamanoshima (5-8) M1w Kyokushuzan (3-10) yoritaoshi M6w Jumonji (4-9) M6e Hokutoriki (8-5) oshidashi M1e Miyabiyama (8-5) K1w Shimotori (5-8) sukuinage M3e Tochinonada (6-7) M5w Iwakiyama (7-6) hatakikomi K1e Kakizoe (5-8) S1w Kotomitsuki (5-8) oshidashi M4e Aminishiki (2-11) S1e Wakanosato (6-7) yorikiri M5e Tokitsuumi (6-7) O1e Chiyotaikai (13-0) oshidashi M12w Asasekiryu (12-1) O2w Musoyama (9-4) oshidashi M7e Tochisakae (6-7) Y1e Asashoryu (13-0) kotenage O1w Kaio (11-2) Day 14 Makushita Ms17w Yakigaya (1-5) Ms14w Fujinokaze (1-5) Ms12e Kimenryu (3-3) Ms16e Suzukawa (3-3) Ms12w Katayama (4-2) Ms9w Yoshiazuma (4-2) Ms5e Maikaze (3-3) Ms7w Sumiya (3-3) Ms5w Fujinohana (2-4) Ms3w Asofuji (2-4) Juryo J13e Daimanazuru (5-8) Ms3e Tochifudo (3-3) J14e Wakakosho (5-8) J13w Masutsuyoshi (3-10) J9e Takanotsuru (7-6) J10e Hamanishiki (6-7) J11w Dewanofuji (6-7) J8w Hakuho (10-3) J6e Kitazakura (8-5) J14w Ichinotani (4-9) J12e Ama (8-5) J6w Kasugao (9-4) J4e Wakatoba (6-7) J7w Tamarikido (6-7) J9w Juzan (3-10) J4w Kaido (7-6) J3e Kobo (8-5) J12w Bushuyama (8-5) J5e Takanowaka (8-5) J3w Roho (6-7) J2e Tamakasuga (7-6) J10w Sumanofuji (7-6) J11e Tokitenku (7-6) J2w Hayateumi (10-3) J7e Gojoro (7-6) J1w Otsukasa (6-7) Makuuchi J1e Oikari (6-7) M13w Chiyotenzan (2-11) M12e Toki (7-6) M14w Ushiomaru (7-6) M11e Asanowaka (4-9) M16e Wakanoyama (2-11) M13e Kotonowaka (9-4) M11w Takekaze (8-5) M10e Kasuganishiki (4-9) M14e Harunoyama (7-6) M15w Toyozakura (5-8) M10w Kotoryu (7-6) M9e Buyuzan (8-5) M15e Futeno (5-8) M16w Kaiho (8-5) M9w Kokkai (8-5) M17e Yotsukasa (6-7) M7w Kinkaiyama (3-10) M8w Takanonami (4-9) M6w Jumonji (4-9) M3e Tochinonada (6-7) M8e Takamisakari (7-6) M2e Dejima (7-6) M6e Hokutoriki (8-5) M7e Tochisakae (6-7) M2w Kyokutenho (8-5) M1e Miyabiyama (8-5) M12w Asasekiryu (12-1) M4e Aminishiki (2-11) M1w Kyokushuzan (3-10) K1e Kakizoe (5-8) M5e Tokitsuumi (6-7) M3w Tamanoshima (5-8) K1w Shimotori (5-8) S1e Wakanosato (6-7) M5w Iwakiyama (7-6) M4w Tosanoumi (4-9) S1w Kotomitsuki (5-8) O1e Chiyotaikai (13-0) O1w Kaio (11-2) Y1e Asashoryu (13-0) O2w Musoyama (9-4) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted March 26, 2004 Kaiho's KK is the best thing in this basho this far (at least for me).We will have the privilege to see him again next basho in makuuchi...... (In a state of confusion...) Asasekiryu put up a good fight against Taikai today and i believe he can still challenge for the yusho.Considering he will win tomorrow who is he going to fight on senshuraku? probably Musoyama............right?Then i say he can do 2x2 in the last couple of days (i hope i won't jinx him). Asa dismantled Kaio in 0.23 nanoseconds...... (In a state of confusion...) to even the record between them (7-7 ?) and to show everybody that he is still the favourite in every basho...... Taikai will fight tomorrow kaio in a difficult bout for him but even if he loses he is still in the game if he beats Asa on day15. Kokkai got his KK,as did Tenho........ (Sign of approval) tomorrow provides the Miyabi-Sekiryu match and Taikai-Kaio....These will be very interesting. I can't expect much from the Asashoryu-Musoyama bout.I believe that Muso is bored enough to care for this match.(i hope he won't prove me wrong) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,543 Posted March 26, 2004 I can't expect much from the Asashoryu-Musoyama bout.I believe that Muso is bored enough to care for this match.(i hope he won't prove me wrong) While I kinda doubt that Musoyama has much of a chance against Asashoryu (their head-to-head record speaks volumes...), I wouldn't write him off quite so quickly...he can be surprisingly strong on the final weekend, even if nothing is on the line for him anymore. But maybe it's just something he has against Wakanosato in particular (In a state of confusion...) The last two times Sato went make-koshi, his 8th loss came against Muso (who was neither in kadoban danger nor in the yusho race), once on Day 14 and once on Day 15. (The last one must have sucked particularly bad...maybe Sato didn't pay his yaocho money on time, or something.) At any rate, don't under-estimate Musoyama, especially if he does get to face Asasekiryu on senshuraku. (In a state of confusion...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tominishiki 0 Posted March 26, 2004 I have a question. Does a rikishi ever won zensho twice in a row? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted March 26, 2004 Takanohana, methinks. Some of our more database-inclined members will doubtless give you the precise basho he did this, but I think those were the yusho that decided his yokozuna promotion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted March 26, 2004 (edited) Takanohana, methinks. Some of our more database-inclined members will doubtless give you the precise basho he did this, but I think those were the yusho that decided his yokozuna promotion. Indeed. 1994.09 and 1994.11 which were Taka's sixth and seventh yusho and which were his ticket to become Yokozuna. Those 30 matches also constitue the longest win-streak of the Heisei-era (1989-today). Other Yokozunas such as Taiho and Chiyonofuji also had consecutive zensho at times. Edited March 26, 2004 by Yubiquitoyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,543 Posted March 26, 2004 Indeed. 1994.09 and 1994.11 which were Taka's sixth and seventh yusho and which were his ticket to become Yokozuna. Those 30 matches also constitue the longest win-streak of the Heisei-era (1989-today).Other Yokozunas such as Taiho and Chiyonofuji also had consecutive zensho at times. Not to mention Futabayama's amazing five consecutive zensho yusho in the 1930s... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted March 26, 2004 Although those five zensho were during shorter tournaments, right? Chiyonofuji did it in 1988, going 14-1 15-0 15-0 14-1 from May to November. So aderechelsea-zeki, which is it: Asasekiryu will easily beat Musoyama tomorrow, or the bout should be very interesting? :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,543 Posted March 26, 2004 Although those five zensho were during shorter tournaments, right? Yes, but not that much shorter: the first two were 11-0, the other three 13-0 zensho. If it does make a difference...Futabayama also had back-to-back 15-0's in 1943. :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted March 26, 2004 So aderechelsea-zeki, which is it: Asasekiryu will easily beat Musoyama tomorrow, or the bout should be very interesting? :-) (Applauding...) (Applauding...) if you mean day 15 (which is what i said) i think "yes"...he can beat him if he will show the same passion and power as today....... first of all he has to beat Miyabiyama on day14 so that his senshuraku bout will have a meaning. now that i am thinking it he needs that gin-boshi to "secure" his shukun-sho.... (Applauding...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tumppi 0 Posted March 26, 2004 So aderechelsea-zeki, which is it: Asasekiryu will easily beat Musoyama tomorrow, or the bout should be very interesting? ;-) (Applauding...) (Applauding...) if you mean day 15 (which is what i said) i think "yes"...he can beat him if he will show the same passion and power as today....... first of all he has to beat Miyabiyama on day14 so that his senshuraku bout will have a meaning. now that i am thinking it he needs that gin-boshi to "secure" his shukun-sho.... (Applauding...) Sorry but look at their records. I think Miyabiyama will win tomorrow! (See I said think, I don't wanna be totally wrong this time) :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesinofuji 11 Posted March 26, 2004 I was really impressed with Asasekiryu's performance even though he lost. The man went head to head with Chiyotaikai, fighting Taikai's fight, and still managed to hold his ground for well over a minute. This is something an ordinary sumotori cannot do. Most rikishi just get blasted out. I cannot wait for the rematch in Hatsu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesinofuji 11 Posted March 26, 2004 And a second note. Unless somehow todays loss totally destroyed his confidence, Asasekiryu should demolish Miyabiyama tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QttP 0 Posted March 26, 2004 Two things were remarkable in the Taikai-Seki bout. The first is that Sekiryu managed to bring Chiyotaikai to play his game (slow place, long stalemate). Certain people have the ability to beat Taikai in his own game, but very rarely someone manages to get him to do different sumo. The second thing is that Chiyotaikai did not fall victim to his own impatience, as he so often does, went with the bout through the end and emerged victorious. Overall, Asasekiryu did all he could and Chiyotaikai did all he had to. No mistakes in this bout. Indeed the next probable meeting between them in Natsu will be interesting. Despite he's small size, Asasekiryu proved to be a tricky target for Chiyotaikai. However, you can't really base anything on this basho, because there was a certain magic with Seki all along, which you can't expect to last. It will surprise me very much to see him even get a winning record next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted March 26, 2004 It will surprise me very much to see him even get a winning record next time. it is rather soon to talk about his record for the next basho.We are talking about 40 days from now...... He proved he can win guys that are ranked above him and this has to be more than "magic".Let's hear what he will do in keiko in the meantime and reach a verdict then...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokimori 0 Posted March 26, 2004 I just saw todays juryo/makushita bouts that Doitsuyama so nicely made available. (In a state of confusion...) It was a great bout by Kasugao. Watch that one, everybody who likes him and his style of sumo. (Sigh...) (Kaikitsune, perhaps) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
