Harumafuji-Baruto

[Wurstbroetchen 5]

Why did Baruto win against Harumafuji even though he stepped out of the ring first? (Shaking head...)

[Asojima 2,835]

Why did Baruto win against Harumafuji even though he stepped out of the ring first? (Shaking head...)

Here is the most recent discussion on this ruling. Shinitai is a situation where a rikishi is declared a dead body; i.e., he is in an unrecoverable position. Once a rikishi becomes dead, his opponent can touch ground or step out without losing the match. The ruling is used primarily to prevent injuries. The Haruma - Baruto situation is technically not a shinitai, but the same ruling is applied when one rikishi has been lifted out of the circle, but has not yet touched down. His opponent is free to step out without losing.

Edit: Reference corrected.

Edited November 22, 2009 by Asojima

[Kintamayama 40,625]

Why did Baruto win against Harumafuji even though he stepped out of the ring first? (I am not worthy...)

Here is the most recent discussion on this ruling. Shinitai is a situation where a rikishi is declared a dead body; i.e., he is in an unrecoverable position. Once a rikishi becomes dead, his opponent can touch ground or step out without losing the match. The ruling is used primarily to prevent injuries. The Haruma - Baruto situation is technically not a shinitai, but the same ruling is applied when one rikishi has been lifted out of the circle, but has not yet touched down. His opponent is free to step out without losing.

Edit: Reference corrected.

I think the correct term for this particular instance is okuri-ashi. If a guy carries someone off and steps out of the ring first while carrying his opponent off, he still wins. There was quite a lengthy explanation on the NHK Japanese side. Later, during his interview, Baruto said his tsukibitos explained to him he had had no reason to worry during the monoii since it was okuriashi etc.. etc..

Edited November 23, 2009 by Kintamayama

[ryafuji 758]

Yes, I've always understood that tsuri-dashi is one of the few moves when you don't have to worry about stepping out first... as long as you're moving forward of course!

[sekihiryu 51]

IF you ask me and funnily enough many people do, I would also add (in addition to all that was said aobve by our wise sage's) that Harumafuji being an Ozeki should have never found himself in that position in the first place and didn't deserve to win in such embarrassing fashion, Baruto was absolutely in control of the bout once he hoisted and swiveled and it was very close (haruma landing and Bart playing toesy on the tawara) at normal speed, slow motion always makes it look more apparent.

Had Baruto blatantly plonked his whole foot out and much earlier than he did (harumafuji still in inside the ring rather than dangling outside it) then it could have been isamiashi

but as you can see in the graphic, the defender was standing, resisting at the edge, not being hoisted up in the air like a child as with Haruma/Bart.

Harumafuji had lost that bout about a second before bouts conclusion.