Torabayama 51 Posted July 14, 2009 Is it just me or does Asashoryu seem to enjoy giving Goeido a little extra punishment each time they meet? He got a little shoulder to the face last night and a little extra activity during th last basho as well. ex-Ama also famously dumped Goeido a year or so ago. Maybe they all enjoy roughing him up. (I am not worthy...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,646 Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) Is it just me or does Asashoryu seem to enjoy giving Goeido a little extra punishment each time they meet? He got a little shoulder to the face last night) A little shoulder to the face? That was a right smack to the face that Goueidou withstood very well. Asa used his injured elbow for that, prompting the papers to again question his tactics, calling the move a "borderline hansoku". "He probably did it to stop his opponent's de-ashi, but it's not good. With a small mistake he could seriously injure his opponent, and in any case, he gave up the right hand grip. If his elbow hurts, he shouldn't be doing that..", said a quite shocked Musashigawa rijicho, directly answering reporters' questions about this questionable tactic. Edited July 14, 2009 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted July 14, 2009 A little shoulder to the face? That was a right smack to the face that Goueidou withstood very well. Asa used his injured elbow for that, prompting the papers to again question his tactics, calling the move a "borderline hansoku". "He probably did it to stop his opponent's de-ashi, but it's not good. With a small mistake he could seriously injure his opponent, and in any case, he gave up the right hand grip. If his elbow hurts, he shouldn't be doing that..", said a quite shocked Musashigawa rijicho, directly answering reporters' questions about this questionable tactic. The puroresu keiko is evidently paying off already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takamizawa 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Guhh people will always find something to complain about Asa for (I am not worthy...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_the_mind_ 0 Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) i didnt see the match but the calls of smack to the face reminds me of takanonami's smacks(painful). Edited July 15, 2009 by _the_mind_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,646 Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) Phone lines went dead at Kyokai headquarters as they couldn't stand the volume of calls. Nikkan Sports' head offices were also bombarded with calls. "That's not the way to win..", said Kitanofuji announcer. Elbow action: Edited July 15, 2009 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,874 Posted July 15, 2009 i didnt see the match but the calls of smack to the face reminds me of takatoriki's smacks(painful). fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
01010101 0 Posted July 15, 2009 What's wrong with that!.. next time use the right elbow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted July 15, 2009 What's wrong with that!.. next time use the right elbow. In that case I hope he whacks his opponent a little harder next time, so they have enough grounds to call the hansoku on him after all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoviki 16 Posted July 15, 2009 Phone lines went dead at Kyokai headquarters as they couldn't stand the volume of calls. Nikkan Sports' head offices were also bombarded with calls. "That's not the way to win..", said Kitanofuji announcer. I'm sorry I always wanted to bring this up when I read this... "phone lines were jammed, dead, flooded with calls... etc.." :'-( Do people (and assuming they are mostly Japanese) actually call the kyokai about crap like this? Am I so stupid that I don't understand this? Do the call in the states or other countries if they don't like what the football player did at the kick off? I may not get it here but if you don't like what one rikishi, baseball player, basketball player does why not try to "just not support them" Do people have so much time on their hands to call the kyokai after a match to complain? Rant finished... maybe it is just me!?? :-) (Yucky...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted July 15, 2009 Do people (and assuming they are mostly Japanese) actually call the kyokai about crap like this? Am I so stupid that I don't understand this? Do the call in the states or other countries if they don't like what the football player did at the kick off? I may not get it here but if you don't like what one rikishi, baseball player, basketball player does why not try to "just not support them" Do people have so much time on their hands to call the kyokai after a match to complain? Well, is there a thriving sports talk radio industry in Japan? That's the comparable outlet for American fans, I'd say. And I wouldn't be surprised if irate fans do also write lots of letters and emails to teams and and sports organizations - that just doesn't usually make it into the newspapers in other countries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
satsuhikari 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Is it just me or does Asashoryu seem to enjoy giving Goeido a little extra punishment each time they meet? He got a little shoulder to the face last night and a little extra activity during th last basho as well. ex-Ama also famously dumped Goeido a year or so ago. Maybe they all enjoy roughing him up. :-) I don't know if it was on purpose or unintentionally, but it might have to do with the fact, that Goeido is a gachinko rikishi... (Yucky...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koldonowaka 1 Posted July 15, 2009 Here you have the bout. The last replay explains the fundamentals of fair play... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaiguma 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Here you have the bout. The last replay explains the fundamentals of fair play... watching that replay from above doesn't say much to me about fair play, unless maybe it says: "Nothing to see here. That was all in fair play." The English announcer referred to it as kachi-age repeatedly even throughout the replay. And while Ross Mihara makes his fair share of misses and flubs, that was not one of them. He even says: "Little kachi-age, shoulder blast - doesn't do much against Goeido..." I suppose if it was a true WWF Flying Elbow he would have called it a kachi-hiji? Wait, isn't that puroresu maneuver done against a prone opponent?! But then, I don't think kachi-age translates directly as shoulder-blast, maybe more like "arm-smash"? Which sounds about right, since in the replay I see a lot more upper arm than elbow making the initial contact. And as a few others have mentioned, we see this kind of thing fairly often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted July 15, 2009 But then, I don't think kachi-age translates directly as shoulder-blast, maybe more like "arm-smash"? Which sounds about right, since in the replay I see a lot more upper arm than elbow making the initial contact. And as a few others have mentioned, we see this kind of thing fairly often. FWIW, I'm pretty sure Kokkai caught some grief from the bigwigs at least once in his early free-swinging-elbows days. The pro-wrestling maneuver I was thinking of was more the type of standing elbow smash you do against an opponent after an Irish whip into the ropes, BTW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shomishuu 0 Posted July 15, 2009 But then, I don't think kachi-age translates directly as shoulder-blast, maybe more like "arm-smash"? Which sounds about right, since in the replay I see a lot more upper arm than elbow making the initial contact. And as a few others have mentioned, we see this kind of thing fairly often. e.g., also a small one today by Bushuyama on Robo-Cop...enough to win him the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
