New Bulgarian rikishi in Tagonoura beya

[iwokayama 0]

22 yer old 150 kilo bulgarian sumowrestler Daniel Ivanov become member of Tagonoura beya.

http://sportal.bg/news.php?id=169251

[hidenohana 0]

Her's the English translation of the page from google.

Surprisingly intelligible actually.

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev...sl=bg&tl=en

[kenzo 5]

22 yer old 150 kilo bulgarian sumowrestler Daniel Ivanov become member of Tagonoura beya.

http://sportal.bg/news.php?id=169251

From Ama circles he is quite young strong wrestler but as I far as I know did not win any major titles in Ama Sumo. It will be intersting to see how he develops

[Peeter 15]

SI system & GB pounds (Eh?) - look to me 150*0,45=68 kg?

[Asashosakari 16,843]

Very interesting...thanks for posting, iwokayama! Nothing in the usual Japanese places yet, but if he's travelling today (and now that the information is out) I assume we'll be seeing something tomorrow.

He was listed as 188 cm / 120 kg at the Worlds in Estonia, incidentally.

[kenzo 5]

Very interesting...thanks for posting, iwokayama! Nothing in the usual Japanese places yet, but if he's travelling today (and now that the information is out) I assume we'll be seeing something tomorrow.

He was listed as 188 cm / 120 kg at the Worlds in Estonia, incidentally.

In march this year at the Milan Open he was up to 140kg so he is deffinitely growing, he is really a nice guy and has been looking for this slot for more that a year.

[salle 11]

Her's the English translation of the page from google.

Surprisingly intelligible actually.

One of the best google translations I have seen ever.

Just few glitches like 150 kg translated a 150 pounds and his nickname "The Wise" used wrong way down the text.

He is 22 now. I'm wondering if that isn't a bit too much for a Sumo debut?

[Peeter 15]

Aran was 23 years old enterig sumo, 23 is last term for foreigners. From picture, Daniel vs Kelly, it looks to me too, that his weight is over 100 kg, not 150 pounds, like in article... (Eh?)

[kenzo 5]

Aran was 23 years old enterig sumo, 23 is last term for foreigners.

True but Aran was world champion , the two cannot be compared qua style,only time will tell.

Edited April 22, 2009 by Manekineko
broken quote

[Asashosakari 16,843]

He is 22 now. I'm wondering if that isn't a bit too much for a Sumo debut?

Same age as most entrants from university, so it's okay on that front. It does mean that he should show a lot of early success to be considered a good prospect, e.g. reaching makushita within about one year.

Anyway, I guess he's getting in close to the deadline...haven't found his exact birthdate anywhere, but he was already listed as 22 in Estonia last October and he needs to join (or at least get signed up) before he turns 23. Good for him to have beaten the clock, especially if as kenzo said he was looking for this opportunity for a while.

Edited April 21, 2009 by Asashosakari

[salle 11]

From picture, Daniel vs Kelly, it looks to me too, that his weight is over 100 kg, not 150 pounds, like in article... (Eh?)

Peeter, the article says 150 kg. It is google who translated kgs to pounds witouth conversion.

[salle 11]

There are several articles in .bg about Daniel going to Japan, but most of them are just copied from each other.

This one http://gong.bg/view_article.php?article_id=75126 contains little bit more information including birth date and Amasumo achievements.

Some excerpts:

Born 19 June 1986 in city of Elhovo. Junior champion of Bulgaria in 2007 one silver and three bronze medals from national men championships. Three 3rd places from European championships and one 5th at world championship 2008.

Disclaimer: The above is translated from the article. No idea if it is correct.

[Washuyama 587]

Her's the English translation of the page from google.

Surprisingly intelligible actually.

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev...sl=bg&tl=en

A WHOLE lot better than Babelfish. I was lost after figuring out what was meant by "cabbage soup camp." (Eh?)

Edited April 21, 2009 by Washuyama

[wanderer 159]

New Bulgarian rikishi - not a surprise at all. I've read an interview of Mongolian ex-rikishi turned amateur sumo guy. He said the Bulgarian team regularly goes to Sadogataka (Osh's place) beya, and train with professionals. There is even one guy whom Kotooshu just couldn't beat. So, we will probably see stream of very strong rikishi coming from Bulgaria, and eventually throw the Mongol rule! (Eh?)

In general, athlete's in Europe became rather big that there are many guys who just couldn't fit in the heavy weight category of any of the Olympic wrestling. Sumo is a nice supplemental venue to those athletes for flexing their muscles.

[salle 11]

There is even one guy whom Kotooshu just couldn't beat.

That's being said several times about Petar Stoyanov "The Chief" (as in tribal chief). He is among the biggest names in amateur sumo. I guess the only reason we can't see him in Ozumo is his age.

[Orion 431]

22 yer old 150 kilo bulgarian sumowrestler Daniel Ivanov become member of Tagonoura beya.

?? -- Oh yes, I keep forgetting Tongan-born Aotsurugi got Japanese citizenship back in 2006. (Eh?)

Orion

[Sashohitowa 6]

22 yer old 150 kilo bulgarian sumowrestler Daniel Ivanov become member of Tagonoura beya.

?? -- Oh yes, I keep forgetting Tongan-born Aotsurugi got Japanese citizenship back in 2006. :-)

Orion

This was my initial question as well...

The other thing I wonder is - why Tagonoura? If Kotooshu was involved into bringing Daniel in ozumo, I would expect that he joins a heya from his Ichimon - Magaki (ok, Magaki, might be not the best choice..), Matsugane and Otake have free foreigner spots, if I count correctly. Unless Tagonoura were the one who were interested in Daniel and have been the "proactive side".

I have no observations on the Bulgarian ama-sumo whatsoever, and I hope I am wrong being oversceptical for the qualities of the chosen heya. I hope he develops into a quality rikishi and "becomes a sekitori as soon as possible". (emoticon for a missing flag pose here)

(Eh?) (Cloverleaf...)

[Asashosakari 16,843]

The other thing I wonder is - why Tagonoura? If Kotooshu was involved into bringing Daniel in ozumo, I would expect that he joins a heya from his Ichimon - Magaki (ok, Magaki, might be not the best choice..), Matsugane and Otake have free foreigner spots, if I count correctly.

Matsugane has Kinryuzan.

[Peeter 15]

... and Otake had Roho (Eh?)

[Sashohitowa 6]

One Bulgarian site has posted two days ago an article about Daniel, on top of the news reported above, a short phonecall interview with The Wise. For me it was interesting that he seems quite determined to handle this on his own, without depending much on Kotooshu. Seems like a good fighting spirit! Made a good impression, at least to me.

Here is a translation. I hope you can forgive me my poor translation skills if I have managed to bring some weird nuance to the text.

Q: We understood that in the next half year you will not be allowed to use phone and internet. Are you prepared for the tough rules at Tagonoura beya?

Daniel: Yes, I am prepared. There expect me very hard discipline and training - nothing compared with Bulgaria. Everything there is much different than here. Казвам го убедено, защото съм ходил вече два пъти, видях за какво става въпрос и имам силно желание да отида пак и да изпробвам силите си. I am saying this for certain, because I have been there twice already, I saw what it is all about and I and have a strong desire to go there again and try what I am capable of.

Q: What will your training consist of during the next few months?

D: The training will be held at the Tagonoura stable. They will train me, and I, in turn, will fight for their heya.

Q: Will your experience there be different than your Bulgarian training sessions?

D: Well, have in mind that as much as we train here in Bulgaria, the guys there train about four times more. It will be very hard, but I believe I will handle it.

Q: I wish you that as well. And with what did you impress the Japanese to such extent that they request your immediate departure?

D: Obviously my height, my dimensions, my fighting spirit and the passion I have for the sport.

Q: When can we expect your first appearances in a tournament?

D: On July 1st (???) is the first tournament in Nagoya in which I will fight in the professional league. I start at the lowest level and at the lowest division in the ozumo hierarchy.

Q: What for you will fight in it?

D: My main objective will be to take seven wins. I have a total of seven bouts and I have to win it all. If that happens, I get promotion to a higher division, and it continues like that until I reach the top levels.

Q: Will you manage with the Japanese language and culture?

D: I think I will, yes. There in no man that didn't manage to do it - so I will do it too. It's a little bit difficult, but I can handle it. I know Japanese just enough to say "Hello" and "Thank you".

Q: Why, according to you, Bulgarian make such success in the Japanese sport sumo?

D: Currently, only Kaloyan Mahlyanov - Kotooshu has had a real success. When I go there now, I cannot say anything - I don't know if I will be able to make a good break through there - but I think I can!

Q: We hope for this very much! You are some kind of ambassador of our country. How will you represent Bulgaria to the Asians and what image you would want to create in them for it?

D: I love Bulgaria very much and I will represent it in the best possible way, because here is my motherland. I am not able to say anything bad about Bulgaria. I will tell a lot of stories! We've been there on a training camp a week and a half ago (in the stable of the Tokyo university "Nishi Dai" (?) ) and the guys were asking me - as far as we comprehend each other - how is it there? And I say - it is nice, we have four seasons, forests, mountains and a very beautiful nature. They are impressed, because there are no more things like that, everything is one building next to another...

Q: Do you think that the popularity of Kaloyan Mahlyanov-Kotooshu will help you to break through in Japan?

D: No. I count only on myself.

Q: Would you expect some help from him?

D: Maybe sometimes, if I experience some difficulties, if the oyakata wants to tell me something in the beginning, I will ask him about the trainings, if I don't know something - that's it. Otherwise I count only on myself for everything - for the training and everything else.

Q: And finally - why do they call you "The Wise"?

D: The executive director of the Bulgarian Sumo Federation Mrs Lilyana Kaneva thought out our nicknames. She has developed also mine, because I am a student in the National Sports Academy and therefore I was "wise".

Q: And who will decide for your Japanese name?

D: They will develop it at the stable when I get there.

Q: We wish you a lot of success in Japan and we'll follow with interest your performance!

[Fay 1,676]

Thank you Sashohitowa, seems he is a clever man with fighting spirit. I look forward to see him some time soon.

[Asashosakari 16,843]

Thanks for the translation! (Enjoyable TV program...)

We've been there on a training camp a week and a half ago (in the stable of the Tokyo university "Nishi Dai" (?) )

Nihon University (Nichidai) probably, the one that has produced about 10 current sekitori and has ex-juryo Dewataira as coach.

Do you guys know if Daniel speaks some English? I imagine having Tongan Aotsurugi in the stable could be helpful at first, too.

[Doitsuyama 1,153]

Q: When can we expect your first appearances in a tournament?

D: On July 1st (???) is the first tournament in Nagoya in which I will fight in the professional league. I start at the lowest level and at the lowest division in the ozumo hierarchy.

Q: What for you will fight in it?

D: My main objective will be to take seven wins. I have a total of seven bouts and I have to win it all. If that happens, I get promotion to a higher division, and it continues like that until I reach the top levels.

Won't happen unless they change the new foreigner rules again. He will have to wait one basho before getting to mae-zumo in Nagoya and jonokuchi in Aki. He's in for a long half year.

[Barang 0]

Q: When can we expect your first appearances in a tournament?

D: On July 1st (???) is the first tournament in Nagoya in which I will fight in the professional league. I start at the lowest level and at the lowest division in the ozumo hierarchy.

Won't happen unless they change the new foreigner rules again. He will have to wait one basho before getting to mae-zumo in Nagoya and jonokuchi in Aki. He's in for a long half year.

So shall we see him in mae-zumo in July or September or even in Makushita then?

[Doitsuyama 1,153]

Q: When can we expect your first appearances in a tournament?

D: On July 1st (???) is the first tournament in Nagoya in which I will fight in the professional league. I start at the lowest level and at the lowest division in the ozumo hierarchy.

Won't happen unless they change the new foreigner rules again. He will have to wait one basho before getting to mae-zumo in Nagoya and jonokuchi in Aki. He's in for a long half year.

So shall we see him in mae-zumo in July or September or even in Makushita then?

May: Hatsu-dohyo (necessary because he will be 23 years old in July, so it's now wonder he got urged to come quickly as Natsu is his last chance)

July: Mae-zumo

September: Jonokuchi

November: Jonidan barring a disaster