madorosumaru 7 Posted March 26, 2009 Asashoryu: (Helpless against former patsy Kotomitsuki) That kind of sumo is a definite no-no. My tachiai just wasn't very good. More Ryu: (On his rapidly vanishing yusho hopes) I'm not thinking about that. [Charlie Brown sigh] Even more Ryu: (On what was a highly anticipated senshuraku confrontation against Hakuho) Looks like I blew it. Kotomitsuki: (Not giving the yokozuna much of a chance) I felt comfortable once I got into [my favored] migi-yotsu. More Mickey: (On the birth of a son the day before) He is going to be a great encouragement to me. Musashigawa Rijicho: (Disappointed by the turn of events) If he could have stayed at one-loss until senshuraku, it would have made a big difference in the excitement of the basho. Maybe, Asashoryu is getting tired. I don't have the feeling that Hakuho is going to crumble. This two-loss differential is huge. Hakuho: (No trouble this time against pesky Harumafuji) It wasn't quite what I expected [after the tachiai], but I remained calm and collected. I kept a close eye on his moves. More Hakuho: (Told that he could clinch the championship on Day 13) That would be nice. But, I am going to keep doing things at my own pace just as I normally do. Harumafuji: (Unable to upset the yokozuna) I thought if I could get him flustered, I would able to do my kind of sumo, but he didn't even budge a bit. Kotooshu: (Managing to reach kachi-koshi by defeating a helpless Kaio) I felt I was in good form before the basho so I thought I would win more. There were [several] bouts that I shouldn't have lost. Kisenosato: (On the brink of make-koshi in his first basho as sekiwake) Ahhh, what can I do? There isn't anything more to think about. All I can do is go out and do my best. Goeido: (Defeating winless Hokutoriki after a momentary scare) I couldn't afford to lose this bout. There is something about that guy. He just isn't an opponent I like to face. Hokutoriki: (Close but no cigar after pushing and thrusting Goeido back to the edge) I rushed things because I wanted to win so desperately. It might be [construed as] insulting to my opponent, but I blew it. Kotoshogiku: (Suffering his second straight make-koshi) I'm fine physically. It must be mental. It's all pretty darn sad. Takamisakari: (Concerned about his fellow Aomorian Aminishiki) I thought I was losing and tried a [desperation] twist-down. He didn't seem to be able to get up right away . . .. Look, [with seven losses already] I was fighting for my life, too. Bart Sez Baruto: (Using an awesome tsuridashi to defeat Tochiozan) He is lanky and light so it was easy for me to lift him. Incidents of the Day As he grabbed the rear mawashi while circling around Yamamotoyama, Yoshikaze inadvertently exposed even more of the behemoth's butt--shall we say, a Japanese facsimile of the San Andreas Fault. The mortified and bewildered giant was sent packing out of the ring soon after. The crowd roared, delighted by seeing even more Yamamotoyama "flesh" than usual. Yoshikaze: When I unleashed the dashinage, I thought, "Oh, shoot . . .." [For a moment] I thought the mawashi would unravel. Maybe, they should have used the censor mosaic [on television]. [wicked smile] Yamamotoyama: Isn't it illegal to grab over there. [frown] In the bout between Miyabiyama and Chiyotaikai, a mono-ii was called to determine whether Miya-babe committed the foul of hair-grabbing when he pulled down the ozeki. After deliberations, the decision was that the action was "unintentional" and Miyabi got the win. Although the rule stipulates that in order for a hair-pull to be a foul, it has to be intentional, that has never before come up in any prior decisions. In past incidents, a hair-pull automatically resulted in a foul. Poor Chiyotaikai can't win for losing. Mihogaseki Oyakata, chief shimpan: There are times when a finger gets in the hair. [This time] it was not intentional. Miyabiyama: They made the proper decision. [appreciative smile] Chiyotaikai: I didn't get the feeling that he pulled me down [by the hair]. But, there isn't anyone that would intentionally pull [his opponent's] hair, right? [perplexed look] The decision in the yaocho trial was in favor of Asashoryu and other rikishi. Financial compensation was set at a total of 42.9 million yen and Kodansha was ordered to publish an ad to rescind the accusations that the rikishi fixed bouts. Mr. Takeda, the author of the article: I was surprised at the large sum for damages. Of course, we are going to appeal. I have full confidence in the accuracy of the article. I think it's unreasonable to say there is [absolutely] no yaocho. There is no reason for me to tone down my writing in the future. Asashoryu: I really haven't given that much thought to things like the trial. I'm just doing my utmost in sumo. The money [for damages] is not important. It's a matter of honor. Chiyotaikai: I don't think [the amount] is enough. One can't imagine how much trouble and woe [the accusations] caused. Kyokutenho: All this leaves a bad taste. It made even people who don't normally follow sumo think yaocho exists. Musashigawa Rijicho: I just want to express my respect and gratitude to the court for rendering the proper decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flohru 176 Posted March 26, 2009 Chiyotaikai: One can't imagine how much trouble and woe [an underperforming Ozeki like me] causes. Thanks (as always) for the quotes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovesumo 12 Posted March 26, 2009 Mickey became daddy? What's that in my eyes... (Sad goodbyes...) All the best for the little family! BANZAI! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted March 26, 2009 Poor YMY, having his Mariana Trench exposed like that. The live stream is self-censoring so no mosiac was necessary, but I was thinking at the time, "Is Yoshikaze really grabbing him back there?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treblemaker 254 Posted March 27, 2009 Poor YMY, having his Mariana Trench exposed like that. The live stream is self-censoring so no mosiac was necessary, but I was thinking at the time, "Is Yoshikaze really grabbing him back there?" Mariana Trench? More like Death Valley..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nomadwolf 8 Posted March 27, 2009 Poor YMY, having his Mariana Trench exposed like that. The live stream is self-censoring so no mosiac was necessary, but I was thinking at the time, "Is Yoshikaze really grabbing him back there?" I hope he washed his hands most thoroughly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,299 Posted March 27, 2009 Kyokutenho: All this leaves a bad taste. It made even people who don't normally follow sumo think yaocho exists. Am I misreading this quote, or does it imply that people who do normally follow sumo think that yaocho exists? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madorosumaru 7 Posted March 27, 2009 Yamamotoyama: Isn't it illegal to grab over there. It is indeed. (Holiday feeling...) Apparently, not. The following fouls result in the loss of a match due to disqualification: * grabbing or pulling at the opponent's groin area The Japanese version of the same rule is more descriptive. * 前立褌をつかんだり、また、横から指を入れて引くこと。 Grabbing the vertical front mawashi or sticking finger(s) in from side and pulling. There is nothing in the rules prohibiting the grabbing of the vertical part of the mawashi in the rear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hidenohana 0 Posted March 27, 2009 Kyokutenho: All this leaves a bad taste. It made even people who don't normally follow sumo think yaocho exists. Am I misreading this quote, or does it imply that people who do normally follow sumo think that yaocho exists? Yes the "even" in the quote seems slightly troubling. (Holiday feeling...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,646 Posted March 27, 2009 Kyokutenho: All this leaves a bad taste. It made even people who don't normally follow sumo think yaocho exists. Am I misreading this quote, or does it imply that people who do normally follow sumo think that yaocho exists? Yes the "even" in the quote seems slightly troubling. (Holiday feeling...) My guess would be "think it exists" in the sense of "hear about it", i.e. even people who don't follow sumo now know that there are yaocho controversies. (I suspect they did anyway, but that's neither here nor there...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) Mr. Takeda, the author of the article: I was surprised at the large sum for damages. Of course, we are going to appeal. I have full confidence in the accuracy of the article. I think it's unreasonable to say there is [absolutely] no yaocho. There is no reason for me to tone down my writing in the future. Hm. Yeah, that sounds like a good reason to write detailed articles: Surely it must exist, eh? (Showing respect...) Edited March 27, 2009 by Yubiquitoyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buckton 1 Posted March 27, 2009 Apparently, not. Hmmm. I've definitely seen that somewhere. Maybe it's only in amateur. As Yamamotoyama was an amateur that might explain his confusion if it is the case. I doubt that. Several times I have seen the vertical part at the rear used as leverage in amateur sumo. in professional many more times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,870 Posted March 27, 2009 A day 13 pic preview: From Day 12: Wedgie!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madorosumaru 7 Posted March 27, 2009 Even for amateur sumo, it is not a foul that automatically results in a loss. According to the description accompanying the illustrations, when a wrestler grabs his opponent's vertical mawashi, the referee would instruct him to "cease and desist." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovesumo 12 Posted March 27, 2009 now I saw that again..:-) ..never wanted to... (Showing respect...) Madoro, Asojima (Showing respect...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buckton 1 Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) I've definitely seen that somewhere. Maybe it's only in amateur. Checked out the rule books for both ozumo and amateur and yes, it is only in the latter. If you can read the Japanese it doesn't actually say it is a foul that will lose you a fight - only that it shouldn't be continued with. Edit - should have read down - as was put in another post by Mado. Edited March 27, 2009 by Mark Buckton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buckton 1 Posted March 27, 2009 aactually, many of the things seen on the lower part of that page DO happen very briefly and the speed of a bout moves past it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojosh 0 Posted April 2, 2009 I've definitely seen that somewhere. Maybe it's only in amateur. Checked out the rule books for both ozumo and amateur and yes, it is only in the latter. Very interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
