Takamizakura 1 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Can someone post a list of maezumo participants? Thanks in advance. Edited January 15, 2009 by Takamizakura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takamizakura 1 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) As a follow-up to the 2009 Hatsu rercuits thread, here's what I could ascertain. Please correct any badly guessed shikona or orders of appearance. Maezumo Day 1 video here. Pairings & results (in spoiler bars). Times given is of their 1st shikona announcement: 1. Nagai vs. Azumaryu (00:05) L-W 2. Takanoiwa vs. Asahyuga (01:08) W-L 3. Aoki vs. Amatsu (01:51) W-L 4. Takarafuji vs. Naoe (2:45) W-L 5. Obamaumi vs. Nogami (03:30) L-W 6. Takageppo vs. Aimoto (04:21) W-L 7. Takatoshi vs. Mori (05:16) W-L 8. Daitoku vs. Kishi (06:05) L-W Edited January 15, 2009 by Takamizakura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takamizakura 1 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) As I'm doing Maezumo Day 2, it appears that there are only 15 entrants, as the kid whose shikona sounds like Asahuga fights 1st and 4th on Day 2. But I can't figure out who fought twice on Day 1. My best guess is whoever is in the 1st fight on the left, because it doesn't fit with my two unknown shikonas: ex-Mitsui and ex-Yamamoto changing to sounds-like-Obamaumi and sounds-like-Asahuga. Edited January 14, 2009 by Takamizakura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Nagai was a good guess; he's the third banzuke-gai rikishi I suspected of being there. He probably withdrew after the first bout (returnees often take only one) and that's why you're spotting only 15 on the second day. Other than that: Asa-something (I can't figure it out either) is Takasago-beya's Mitsui, and Obamaumi (I hear the same thing) is Sakaigawa-beya's Yamamoto. Edit: Sorry, I'm being a forgetful idiot...Thank You! for posting the video. :-) Edited January 14, 2009 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takamizakura 1 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Day 2 video here. Sorry for the dodgy light metering. Pairings, time markers, and results: 1. Asahyuga vs. Amatsu (00:02) L-W 2. Obamaumi vs. Naoe (01:15) L-W 3. Daitoku vs. Aimoto (01:51) L-W 4. Asahyuga vs. Mori (02:40) L-W 5. Takanoiwa vs. Azumaryu (03:40) L-W 6. Takarafuji vs. Aoki (04:37) L-W 7. Takageppo vs. Nogami (05:40) L-W 8. Takatoshi vs. Kishi (06:40) L-W Edited January 15, 2009 by Takamizakura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted January 14, 2009 Takasago-beya website to the rescue...the guy's shikona is 朝日向, which I guess is pronounced Asahimuka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,646 Posted January 14, 2009 Thanks a million for this. A rare look into Maezumo. The gyoji has the gumbai aside at tachi-ai. The yobidashi calls out their names from the sidelines. Why? Takanohana-beya is going to see some good days in about two years' time, it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buckton 1 Posted January 14, 2009 not muko? ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,646 Posted January 14, 2009 Takasago-beya website to the rescue...the guy's shikona is 朝日向, which I guess is pronounced Asahimuka. It's Asahiyuuga, as can be seen here Thanks to Ichinoya, of course, who wrote a blog entry on yesterday's Maezumo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Takasago-beya website to the rescue...the guy's shikona is 朝日向, which I guess is pronounced Asahimuka. Darn compound words...I just ran the kanji combination through wwwjdic just to be safe, and of course it gives "hyuga" as a reading. That's even closer to what it sounds like on the videos, so I guess that's it now. Edit: Too slow. That'll teach me to check their whole website, not just the hoshitori. (And by "check" I of course mean "click on the link that was right in front of me on the hoshitori page"...geez.) Edited January 14, 2009 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted January 14, 2009 And more maezumo scene investigations...I'm pretty sure now that "Obamaumi" is correct. According to the Sakaigawa blog this new Yamamoto is the younger brother of makushita Sadanofuji - who was previously registered to a town in Minamitakaki district in Nagasaki prefecture, which is the same (since-dissolved) district that used to include the (also dissolved) town of Obama. Or even easier, the same blog entry also says the new kid attended Obama high school. ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted January 14, 2009 And one last post (close your eyes now if you haven't watched the first round of bouts yet and don't want it spoiled) - I'm intrigued to see that on the second day they first did all the 0-1 vs. 0-1 bouts, and then the 1-0 vs. 1-0's. I always assumed they just go by the original roster order without sub-grouping the bouts like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted January 14, 2009 Okay, I lied...one more addition (no, I'm not being obsessive at all, thank you for asking ;-)). Torikumi guess for Day 5 - almost guaranteed to be wrong, but fun anyway: Asahyuga-Obamaumi (losing rikishi)-Daitoku Takanoiwa-Amatsu Takarafuji-Takageppo Naoe-Mori Takatoshi-Aimoto Azumaryu-Aoki Nogami-Kishi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azumashida 1 Posted January 14, 2009 Many thanks for the videos! 5. Takanoiwa vs. Azumaryuu (03:40) I knew this was going to happen one day... I guess I have a second adoptee... Wasn't there a forum rule stating that we can't pick an existing shikona? Thought it worked both ways, hans't anyone told this guy what he was doing? ;-) Maybe it's time for me to change my forum identity... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted January 14, 2009 Well, your videos motivated me to add the new rikishi to Sumo Reference even if not all kanji for the shikona are known - I will correct them if needed. Day 3 and 4 bouts also are added. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,646 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) And more maezumo scene investigations...I'm pretty sure now that "Obamaumi" is correct. According to the Sakaigawa blog this new Yamamoto is the younger brother of makushita Sadanofuji - He is a shy person and likes fish more than meat and wants to become Yokozuna. Hobbies-music and sleeping (my kinda guy..) He is this (gigantic picture): http://www.geocities.jp/sakaigawa_beya/_gl..._/090108-o1.jpg Edited January 14, 2009 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takamizakura 1 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) And more maezumo scene investigations...I'm pretty sure now that "Obamaumi" is correct. According to the Sakaigawa blog this new Yamamoto is the younger brother of makushita Sadanofuji - who was previously registered to a town in Minamitakaki district in Nagasaki prefecture, which is the same (since-dissolved) district that used to include the (also dissolved) town of Obama. Or even easier, the same blog entry also says the new kid attended Obama high school. :-) The existence of 2 Obama towns in Japan confused me when I was planning a trip there to see the Obama (person) inauguration (plans abandoned; sumo is an expensive hobby). There are still some hotels called Obama in Nagasaki prefecture, even though the active town of Obama is in Fukui prefecture. Even further off-topic: during the snowstorms last weekend the news showed some outdoor festival in Obama, and the wind was blowing so hard the snow was actually moving horizontally on camera. Edited January 15, 2009 by Takamizakura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takamizakura 1 Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) Day 3 lineups, video & results: 1. Obamaumi vs. Asahyuga (00:25) L-W 2. Takanoiwa vs. Amatsu (01:39) L-W *3. Takarafuji vs. Naoe (02:34) L-W 4. Takaeppo vs. Aimoto (03:38) W-L 5. Takatoshi vs. Mori (04:48) W-L 6. Obamaumi vs. Daitoku (05:15) W-L *7. Azumaryu vs. Nogami (06:01) L-W 8. Aoki vs. Kishi (06:59) W-L 9. Azumaryu vs. Kishi (07:50) W-L * Denotes my highlight bouts. Edited January 15, 2009 by Takamizakura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takamizakura 1 Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) For those playing at home, here are the standings after Day 3: Aimoto 1-2 Aoki 3-0 Amatsu 2-1 Asahyuga 1-3 Azumaryu 3-1 Daitoku 0-3 Kishi 2-2 Mori 1-2 Naoe 2-1 Nogami 3-0 Obamaumi 1-3 Takageppo 2-1 Takanoiwa 1-2 Takarafuji 1-2 Takatoshi 2-1 (Nagai from Day 1 not included.) Edited January 16, 2009 by Takamizakura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) Day 3 lineups & results: *3. Takarafuji vs. Naoe (02:34) L-W 4. Takaeppou vs. Aimoto (03:38) W-L 5. Takatoshi vs. Mori (04:48) W-L Bah...lazy torikumi-making, all repeat bouts from the first round. Edit: Ah, are they done already? I figured they'd do 4 days with so many participants... Edited January 15, 2009 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takamizakura 1 Posted January 15, 2009 Edit: Ah, are they done already? I figured they'd do 4 days with so many participants... I was just asking myself the same question. How do I find out if there is another round tomorrow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted January 15, 2009 Edit: Ah, are they done already? I figured they'd do 4 days with so many participants... I was just asking myself the same question. How do I find out if there is another round tomorrow? Somehow the scores don't look finished to me, I guess there will be some final bouts tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 431 Posted January 15, 2009 Day 3 lineups & results: *3. Takarafuji vs. Naoe (02:34) L-W 4. Takaeppou vs. Aimoto (03:38) W-L 5. Takatoshi vs. Mori (04:48) W-L Bah...lazy torikumi-making, all repeat bouts from the first round. Edit: Ah, are they done already? I figured they'd do 4 days with so many participants... How many variations can you get with that few people? They're supposed to get three wins, though if the Kyokai's desperate enough two will do -- and in Osaka for the 3rd presentation even kids with zero wins are presented. The men with three wins won't be there tomorrow, but I would certainly expect that those with 0 or 1 will turn up, and maybe someone with a 2 also. They can just be shuttled around from one side of the dohyo to the other until they have made the grade. Normally maezumo is Tuesday to Friday (except in Osaka of course, when they are still going on into the second week). FWIW, Orion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,968 Posted January 15, 2009 Bah...lazy torikumi-making, all repeat bouts from the first round. How many variations can you get with that few people? Well, see my torikumi guess further up, which took me all of five minutes and didn't include any repeated bouts. There were 8 shindeshi with 1-1 records; surely there are many variations that could have been done without pairing six of them into bouts that were repeats. (For starters, they could have simply switched up the two Takanohana-Kokonoe pairings...) It's not that I'm terribly bothered by this or anything, I just think it's a question of fairness not to give a shindeshi a potentially very soft or very difficult opponent twice if it's easy to avoid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites