Naganoyama 5,881 Posted January 31, 2007 ... Hirogawa? (I don't have this shikona at all) ... I have a _Hirokawa_ who made his Juryo debut in July 1961 and retired at Juryo 11 in January 1969. He made it to komusubi for a single tournament in May 1964 after which he headed straight back down to Juryo for a spell, possibly due to injuryas he had a 3-12 on his way down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted January 31, 2007 ... Hirogawa? (I don't have this shikona at all) ... I have a _Hirokawa_ who made his Juryo debut in July 1961 and retired at Juryo 11 in January 1969. He made it to komusubi for a single tournament in May 1964 after which he headed straight back down to Juryo for a spell, possibly due to injuryas he had a 3-12 on his way down. Hirokawa Taizo Heya: Miyagino born in Kanagawa hatsu dohyo 1953.03 intai 1969.01 wins/ losses: 218/251 Makuuchi debut: 1962.07 Makuuchi last Basho: 1968.03 Bashos in Makuuchi: 32 Kanto-sho: 1 (1962.07 ... record: 10-5) Kinboshi: 1 (against Tochinoumi 1964.07) Komusubi (hightest rank) debut: 1964.05 (for just one basho) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 5,881 Posted January 31, 2007 Aha. A man with THE BOOK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted January 31, 2007 Aha. A man with THE BOOK. (Blushing...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted January 31, 2007 ... Hirogawa? (I don't have this shikona at all) ... I have a _Hirokawa_ who made his Juryo debut in July 1961 and retired at Juryo 11 in January 1969. He made it to komusubi for a single tournament in May 1964 after which he headed straight back down to Juryo for a spell, possibly due to injuryas he had a 3-12 on his way down. Thanks for helping out. Problem is just that his shikona never was 広川, at least according to my sources (and Japanese Wikipedia as well). It was 廣川 which isn't that different actually. Probably a typo in the magazine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony 16 Posted January 31, 2007 Have you got Kirishima's pictures? It's future Tsunenoyama! ( also known as Nishinoryu ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 5,881 Posted February 1, 2007 ... Hirogawa? (I don't have this shikona at all) ... I have a _Hirokawa_ who made his Juryo debut in July 1961 and retired at Juryo 11 in January 1969. He made it to komusubi for a single tournament in May 1964 after which he headed straight back down to Juryo for a spell, possibly due to injury as he had a 3-12 on his way down. Thanks for helping out. Problem is just that his shikona never was 広川, at least according to my sources (and Japanese Wikipedia as well). It was 廣川 which isn't that different actually. Probably a typo in the magazine. Stupidly I forgot to check the kanji, but I now that I have done so I find you are right, of course. Probably it's a typo as you say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted February 1, 2007 Have you got Kirishima's pictures? i could only find these in books or the net Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony 16 Posted February 1, 2007 Thank you very much! Especially for Kirishima's pictures... Wonderful job! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_the_mind_ 0 Posted February 11, 2007 forgive me for not isolating the specific picture i am about to ask about, i did not figure i would be able to find it if i quoted the post and be able to single it out. anyway, in the above post with all the black and white photos there was one picture of a dude getting his head shaved and the caption was something along those lines of saying "head shaving". my question is, why would that be performed at all? or is that more common amoung rikishi who do not make certain rank but retire? it did not look like a ceremony of any kind so i wasnt sure for what reason that would ever happen to shave the head and not just cut the oicho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted February 11, 2007 there was one picture of a dude getting his head shaved and the caption was something along those lines of saying "head shaving". my question is, why would that be performed at all? or is that more common amoung rikishi who do not make certain rank but retire? it did not look like a ceremony of any kind so i wasnt sure for what reason that would ever happen to shave the head and not just cut the oicho. i have the impression it is done when a rikishi has A LOT of hair and then the oicho is getting too thick. They just shave the hair at the top of the head and then cover it with the special folding. This way the oicho i thinner and easier to make i suppose. I have no idea if it is still done or if it is even correct but seems logical and i am pretty sure that i've read this somewhere. anyway.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted February 18, 2007 ok ... i am back with more. :-D Some Taiho pics a pic of Sadanoyama smoking and just another rikishi. He lloks to be the same as the one in the car with Taiho 2 pics above .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted February 18, 2007 ok .... more time in my hands Hakuho's father (Hakuho must have been 7-8 years old back then) some familiar faces Kaio Musoyama Mainoumi Hoshiandesu Kyokudozan Kotonowaka (nice mawashi colour ... :-D ) another Kirishima pic for Tony ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted February 18, 2007 Kotonowaka (nice mawashi colour ... :-D ) :-D really a great mawashi colour (Clapping wildly...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) 1967 special sadanoyama, yutakayama, taiho, kashiwado Kitanofuji, Taiho Kashiwado oshidashi-ing Maenoyama Myobudani uwatenage over Yutakayama Kashiwado losing to Wakanami (??) Myobudani beating Kitanofuji Sadanoyama trowing down Hirokawa Taiho - Hirokawa Taiho beating Kitanofuji Taiho-Kashiwado Sadanoyama - Kiyokuni Lower division champions and the caption for the wise men of the forum .... Edited March 6, 2007 by aderechelsea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted February 20, 2007 Tamanoshima beating Sadanoyama Sadanoyama beating Kotozakura i have lots more coming ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted February 20, 2007 Lower division champions and the caption for the wise men of the forum .... The caption lists the Yusho winners (from left to right): Tensuiyama (Juryo, 12-3), Tochifuji (Makushita, 7-0, from next basho on sekitori for 44 basho, 11 of them in makuuchi), Masagonishiki(?) (Sandanme, 7-0), Tamura (Jonidan, 7-0, reached juryo five years later as Takanoyama, 3-12 career sekitori record) and Yamaguchi (Jonokuchi, 6-1). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted February 20, 2007 Kashiwado Kitanofuji-Tamanoshima Taiho Kashiwado-Taiho-Someone more Taiho more Kashiwado Tamanoshima Kitanofuji Sadanoyama visits the army Sadanoyama being chased by kids The "someone" from the 4th pic and a caption for Doitsuyama to translate ((Order, order!)) Maenoyama vs "Someone else" "Someone else #3" and Fujinishiki (i hope so) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted February 20, 2007 last few for today. I didn't include captions ... sorry. who knows Toda (??) vs someone "who knows #2" Taiho cooking ??? a *nogawa guy, maenoyama,toda (??) Takanohana during his "Hanada" days .... Ama champions? random faces but they have names so i thought someone might know who they are and could give a damn about it ... Bottom right guy should be a nother "Mori" (Order, order!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted February 20, 2007 The "someone" from the 4th pic and a caption for Doitsuyama to translate ((Order, order!)) The caption says this is Tsurugamine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) random faces but they have names so i thought someone might know who they are and could give a damn about it ...Bottom right guy should be a nother "Mori" (Order, order!) Wakasugiyama, Ogiyama, Aonosato, Toyokuni, Yutakayama Mitakayama, Amazukaze, Akinokuni, Wakabayama, Tokibayama Maedamine, Hatano(?), Okozan(?), Abenogawa, Todoroki Several shikona of these I don't have at all, others are well known rikishi. Hmm... (Edit: I got the solution, these rikishi are all from Tokitsukaze-beya). Oh, and the bottom right guy isn't Mori. Mori is three grouped "trees" 森, but this here are three grouped "cars" 轟. Edited February 20, 2007 by Doitsuyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted February 20, 2007 since you are up to it i'll post the remaining faces. i can identify Futabayama and Takanosato but the rest of them are a mystery ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 532 Posted February 20, 2007 ok ... i am back with more. (Order, order!) Some Taiho pics What always strikes me when I see a picture of Taiho is just how ordinary he looks,not quite the image I had in mind when I first read of "The great bird Taiho winner of a record 32 yusho." The picture of him on the NSK website gives him more of an air of power but do you think that was intentional on their part? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted February 20, 2007 ok .. i am addicted. Akebono Takanohana Konishiki Wakanohana Takatoriki Wakashoyo Kotonishiki Misugisato Oginohana Mitoizumi Daishoho Tokitsunada Daishoyama Takamisugi Kushimaumi Tomoefuji Kotoinazuma Kotofuji Toyonoumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) Hmm, here are even more rikishi which I don't have at all. Never mind - I won't look them up, just write the readings as I see them. Fujidagawa, Maruyama, Sakaguchigawa, Dairyuyama, Yamadayama Ozakimine, Kodama, Bochozan, Toyotsukaze, Yamamotogawa Ishii, Hibinosato (later 10 juryo basho as Matsunoyama/Daisharin), Azumahikari, Kaminoura, Satsumafuji Rikuo, Miyanishi, Toyonosato, Tokitsufuji, Onomine Asahifuji, Kawamura, Daiju, Takayasuyama, Yoshinohana Bungofuji, Higuchi, Abenoyama, Chikuhozan, Shio Morikawa, Suzukiyama, Kamitsuji, Kiyomidori, Tamagi Uchikawa, Tominoyama, Izumi, Kogawa, Kawaiyama Abe, Sakamoto, Mashuyama, Asami, Wakatomi Nishikijima (Kimura Kesazo), Tatsutagawa (Kagamisato), Tokitsukaze (Futabayama), Tsuge, Nakata Hatachiyama (Kaneminato), Fujigane (Wakaminato), Shikihide (Shionishiki), Shikoroyama (Wakabayama), Tatsutayama (Ouchiyama) Edagawa (Kitabayama), Kumegawa (Futatsuryu), Katsunoura (Kiryugawa), Tatekawa (Hiodoshi), Arashio (Toyonohana) Edited February 21, 2007 by Doitsuyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
